Big_M Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 mls inferior to lituanian league..spl on par with laliga 2..ooff getting a lot of things wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkuseisLoose Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 28 minutes ago, Shway said: For me, Millar is one who I think will be a shock surprise omission. From what I've seen, I think Tabla and Millar have similar skillsets, just Tabla is better for me. Yes, he isn't playing much at Albacete on loan from Barcelona for whatever reason (neither is Davies who is sitting on the bench at Bayern) but Millar is just starting to get his first few minutes of first team football, while Tabla has already played pro gamesome and showed out at Montreal. Also, SPL is probably on par with the LaLiga 2 (except for Celtic and Rangers)...so comparing leagues is all relative. I also think Herdman probably gave Tabla some guarantees with his committing to the CMNT.....we shall see. He isn’t even getting on the bench half the time and there’s a bit of a difference in between not playing for Bayern vs a Spanish 2nd division team. Both Millar and Davies have both scored off the bench and have definitely been better in their performance than tabla. If herdman gave tabla a guarantee to be called even if he’s done nothing than that’s bullshit. If Millar isn’t on the final roster than the csa and Herdman are completely taking the piss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 17 minutes ago, SkuseisLoose said: If Millar isn’t on the final roster than the csa and Herdman are completely taking the piss. How? He only has played a total 117 minutes in 9 sub appearances, no starts. This is first half season as a professional. He's very talented and has tons of projection to have a very long career with Canada (2022,2026,2030 cycles) at age 19 with 4 caps and developed at one of the biggest clubs in the world there's no denying his quality and what he can bring for the NT, what I'm saying is Akindele is in better form. If it came down to Millar between David, I'd pick Jonathan. Now between Liam and Ricketts, do we go with someone who's international career is just starting or on the ending? That's the question we should be asking, the right balance between Youth, Mid-age and Experience has to be there; but at the same the best should be there regardless of age, form or another reason. Theres always exceptions such as Cyle Larin, awful season in Turkey, but do we include him in our 23? Of course we do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 On 4/22/2019 at 12:44 AM, Shway said: To everyone's dismay I see Davies playing LB. Likely. JH is on record staying he'll use Davies at LB if he thinks the opposition is going to bunker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Big_M said: mls inferior to lituanian league..spl on par with laliga 2..ooff getting a lot of things wrong Sorry I clearly got lost in my words. Let me correct myself "Lithuanian League is inferior to MLS" However, SPL soccer is horrid. Rarely is there technical qualities displayed in that league. Every time I watch, I feel like a player is liable to break their leg from a two-footed tackle, that the ref sees but allows. The game is played a better way in Spain, and you can see it in LaLiga 2. Blackjack15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkuseisLoose Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Here’s my 23 for the gold cup Goalkeepers (3) gk Borjan gk Crepeau gk Thomas defenders(8) Rb Godinho RB Guillard Cb James Cb Henry Cb Vitoria Cb Cornelius Lb adekugbe Lb Kaye Midfielders (5) CDM Hutchison Cdm piette cm Ossorio Cm arfield cm Teibert Wingers (4) Lm Davies Rm Hoillet Rm/Lm Millar Akindele Strikers (3) cavallini larin david Blackjack15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, SkuseisLoose said: Here’s my 23 for the gold cup Goalkeepers (3) gk Borjan gk Crepeau gk Thomas defenders(8) Rb Godinho RB Guillard Cb James Cb Henry Cb Vitoria Cb Cornelius Lb adekugbe Lb Kaye Midfielders (5) CDM Hutchison Cdm piette cm Ossorio Cm arfield cm Teibert Wingers (4) Lm Davies Rm Hoillet Rm/Lm Millar Akindele Strikers (3) cavallini larin david Well put togethe list, Liked everyone except for Thomas and Vitoria. For me Millar is 50/50 Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 Akindele is having a great start to the season at a middling Orlando City. Ballou is not seeing the field on loan at a club in La liga promotion mix. I personally think Ballou will somehow make the GC squad, but talk of Akindele replacing him is now fair in my opinion. If you subscribe to the form argument, Akindele is the easy choice. If you lean towards experience over youth, Tesho is your guy. However, one must consider that Ballou edges him in recent national team experience. He's simply been part of the squad more. He's also naturally more talented and more of an x-factor, one would argue. It's going to be interesting, but my money right now is on Tabla, rightly or wrongly. johnyb and Kadenge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted April 23, 2019 Share Posted April 23, 2019 28 minutes ago, Obinna said: Akindele is having a great start to the season at a middling Orlando City. Ballou is not seeing the field on loan at a club in La liga promotion mix. I personally think Ballou will somehow make the GC squad, but talk of Akindele replacing him is now fair in my opinion. If you subscribe to the form argument, Akindele is the easy choice. If you lean towards experience over youth, Tesho is your guy. However, one must consider that Ballou edges him in recent national team experience. He's simply been part of the squad more. He's also naturally more talented and more of an x-factor, one would argue. It's going to be interesting, but my money right now is on Tabla, rightly or wrongly. I think for a 23 man roster you want to have 3 options for the position of target forward that Herdman likes to play, with maybe one of them also being able to play one of the wing positions in a 4-3-3. If one of Cavallini or Larin gets injured or suspended ahead of a key game (like a knockout round game) that only leaves one option up top for an entire game. In addition to good recent form, this is where Akindele may have an advantage as I don't see Tabla being a replacement for Larin or Cavallini but Tesho could play there in a pinch and also be used on the wing. While David will clearly make the final roster of 23 I'm not sure that I would list him as one of the three "Forwards" the way Herdman plays as I can't see him playing up top on his own leading the line as a target man. He needs to play on the wing or with the target man ahead of him. So I can see Akindele getting called back in as I'm not sure who the third choice target forward is on the roster that can also play on the wing. Ricketts? AJH? Hamilton? My guess is Akindele would have the jump on all three because of the extra versatility (AJH of course also has the issue of him not playing much or scoring at all this season so he's hardly got "current form" on his side). Of course if we had some friendlies like every other self-respecting soccer nation we could try these players out in these positions a bit more mind you. No friendlies in 13 months and just four other games against minnows in the interim leaves you with limited knowledge of the strengths of your team and its possible players and formation. Obinna and Blackjack15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted April 24, 2019 Share Posted April 24, 2019 (edited) On 4/22/2019 at 4:45 PM, Unnamed Trialist said: We are the only national team in the world where the biggest prize for the best player is to be put at Left Back. The fight for the position is ferocious. I think Herdman must have decided LB is a key part of the field on the basis of feng shui, otherwise it makes no sense. If Tomori decides to come on board, then Herdman will have one more competitor to choose for the highly coveted LB position. Edited April 24, 2019 by BearcatSA Kadenge and The Ref 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoginess Posted April 28, 2019 Share Posted April 28, 2019 Does Canada have the most offensive LB depth on CONCACAF? Davies AND MAK? Even the US can't compete when they play Tyler Adams at back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 Great article on MAK in the Athletic. Seems to bit a lot of bitterness there at being released by TFC. But good for him for using whatever he needs to as motivation to keep improving taking steps forward.https://theathletic.com/964445/2019/05/06/ Blackjack15, shamrock, Ivanovski94 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted May 6, 2019 Share Posted May 6, 2019 4 hours ago, masster said: Great article on MAK in the Athletic. Seems to bit a lot of bitterness there at being released by TFC. But good for him for using whatever he needs to as motivation to keep improving taking steps forward.https://theathletic.com/964445/2019/05/06/ Interesting paragraph from the article. Not sure if it was common knowledge that Bradley scouted him from the Gold Cup? When Kaye arrived in Los Angeles, he was an unheralded left-winger who had been cast off by his hometown club and had started to turn his career around at Louisville City in the USL. But Bob Bradley had seen something when watching Canada play in the Gold Cup, and he felt Kaye could be a real contributor in central midfield. Ivanovski94, apbsmith and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 It's not that surprising. It's not like he was a regular starter at Louisville prior to the Gold Cup. I thought if he saw something in Kaye, it was porbably more with Canada than with Louisville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) Full credit to OZ for seeing something in him than most coaches wouldn't have, because in paper "USL guy gets called in gold Cup roster" most of us were curious who this player was and I think it helped him with his club form and then signing for LAFC having that International experience Edited May 7, 2019 by Blackjack15 Bertuzzi44, A_Gagne, king1010 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 (edited) Well said MAK 👏🏻 Edited May 7, 2019 by Blackjack15 Ivanovski94, johnyb, Shway and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Scored the first goal in a 3-0 win tonight. Really putting together a solid case for a starting spot at the gold cup. Some tough competition in our midfield. Theres gunna be some good players on the bench. Ruffian, Addona, cronaldo7 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 He’s having a really stellar season that’s for sure. By my count we have 5 midfielders starting every week in MLS right now which must be an all time high. If Arfield and Hutch take the 2 starting spots for the GC those 5 players are all competing for 1 spot. Probably the fiercest competition for a spot ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 He's having a great season. I'm not sure I believe he intended that goal as a shot though. We'll probably never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apbsmith Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 With 3 games over 8 days + travel, this quality depth is awesome. All of them will see the field this Gold Cup and I can't wait. Weng, Shway, Blackjack15 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted May 12, 2019 Share Posted May 12, 2019 Based on our quality depth in the center of the park and based on previous games, we could see him start at Left Back. Good & bad. Good for the fact that last game he was great at left back for Canada before switching into the midfield 2nd half. Bad is he is proving to be an elite midfielder in the center of the park. Hutchinson, Arfield, Osorio, Piette, Teibert even depening if you play Davies out wide, Jonathan David might slid in centrally as well. toontownman and Shway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 This kind of succession planning make me a lot more okay about Hutch's likely retirement post GC. He still leaves a hole in the midfield given his level of play, but with the depth at CM I feel... less bad about it. Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 Can't replace an Atiba Hutchinson. In my opinion the best player and most successful player to ever wear a Canada jersey. The addition of Eustaquio will make the transition much easier as well. A_Gagne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Corazon said: Can't replace an Atiba Hutchinson. In my opinion the best player and most successful player to ever wear a Canada jersey. The addition of Eustaquio will make the transition much easier as well. Sure you can. I'm not trying to take anything away from Atiba because I agree about him being the best. But I think we have a couple of teenagers right now that have good shots at being a better player/more successful in the next 10-15 years. Breaking into the Belgian and the Bunda as teenagers is a very good start, whether they continue on to Atibas heights, who can say. And behind Davies, David, Millar etc you have Nelson and HAbibullah that could have similar shots at going on to big things. Northvansteve 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Bison44 said: Sure you can. I'm not trying to take anything away from Atiba because I agree about him being the best. But I think we have a couple of teenagers right now that have good shots at being a better player/more successful in the next 10-15 years. Breaking into the Belgian and the Bunda as teenagers is a very good start, whether they continue on to Atibas heights, who can say. And behind Davies, David, Millar etc you have Nelson and HAbibullah that could have similar shots at going on to big things. Maybe I should have been a little more clear. I was referring to his position specifically and his leadership and I was making a statement on his contributions to Canadian soccer more than anything. I believe he is the best to ever suit up for Canada to date. However, 20 years from now, I truly believe there will be multiple players to achieve the success he has in his career and even greater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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