The Real Marc Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 The word offer, I'm sure, is being used loosely. If there was an offer, it was likely "Ok, we will definitely call you for the next two games." It's also possible the offer was "Want to keep playing at Red Star? Play for Serbia." Who knows. Either way, that one time switch was good leverage. All the best to him, and even his Dad. narduch and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Why do I keep opening this thread? Acid-Tone, Olympique_de_Marseille, RS and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Hes currently not good enough for the senior teams of canada and serbia...if serbia actually called him for their senior team its a panic one like sali who is now barely playing for constanța Vasi, narduch, The Real Marc and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally McCoist Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 minute ago, dyslexic nam said: Why do I keep opening this thread? narduch, The Real Marc, dyslexic nam and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 So he's basically the Serbian Flores. Move the thread please. dyslexic nam, Metro, Kadenge and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 (edited) If he was really in the process of filing a switch I tend to believe he genuinely had interest, rather than just using us as leverage. Publicly saying Canada is interested is one thing, but actually starting the process of the switch is another. Flores never did that to my knowledge. People may not want to hear this, but I don't think this case is completely closed. I do expect him to remain with Serbia, but you never. If Serbia renege on whatever deal or promise they gave Mitrovic, which could happen if the manager leaves, then Canada could possibly be back on the table. Another thing, I don't know whether such deals or guarantees are common with international football, but it seems off. Serbia has more successful than Canada in their short history, but making guarantees to players seems like a bad practice. If you are good enough you wouldn't need a coach or FA to give you a guarantee of call ups, or playing time. Just seems shady with a high probability of going wrong, both for the player and the program. It wouldn't shock me though if Mitrovic's camp demanded that, considering how they previously wanted to come to the Canadian camp without filling out the switch. Personally though, I am kind of done caring about this. I would be happy if he joined, but in reality we are talking about a substitute player at best, fringe player at worst. It's not worth being invested in any more. If he becomes a star for Serbia, oh well, it's not like he'll ever be an Alphonso Davies level player, probably won't even be an Eustaquio level player. That's not to shit on him, just being realistic. If he came in tomorrow he'd be somewhere between player 15 on the high end, to 26 on the low end. In other words, a player we could use, but not a catastrophic loss. We move on to the next one. Good luck Stef! Edited September 13, 2022 by Obinna Pottsy3, The Beaver 2.0 and TOcanadafan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Obinna said: If he was really in the process of filing a switch I tend to believe he genuinely had interest, rather than just using us as leverage. Publicly saying Canada is interested is one thing, but actually starting the process of the switch is another. Flores never did that to my knowledge. People may not want to hear this, but I don't think this case is completely closed. I do expect him to remain with Serbia, but you never. If Serbia renege on whatever deal or promise they gave Mitrovic, which could happen if the manager leaves, then Canada could possibly be back on the table. Another thing, I don't know whether such deals or guarantees are common with international football, but it seems off. Serbia has more successful than Canada in their short history, but making guarantees to players seems like a bad practice. If you are good enough you wouldn't need a coach or FA to give you a guarantee of call ups, or playing time. Just seems shady with a high probability of going wrong, both for the player and the program. It wouldn't shock me though if Mitrovic's camp demanded that, considering how they previously wanted to come to the Canadian camp without filling out the switch. Personally though, I am kind of done caring about this. I would be happy if he joined, but in reality we are talking about a substitute player at best, fringe player at worst. It's not worth being invested in any more. If he becomes a star for Serbia, oh well, it's not like he'll ever be an Alphonso Davies level player, probably won't even be an Eustaquio level player. That's not to shit on him, just being realistic. If he came in tomorrow he'd be somewhere between player 15 on the high end, to 26 on the low end. In other words, a player we could use, but not a catastrophic loss. We move on to the next one. Good luck Stef! I wouldn't be surprised if Serbian forums aren't thrilled with this as they don't really call up players playing in Serbia and it could be seen as Mitrovic taking a spot from a "more deserving" player abroad. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 2 hours ago, dyslexic nam said: Why do I keep opening this thread? Same insanity I feel with the Arfield thread. Joe1973, The Real Marc, Pottsy3 and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Shway said: Same insanity I feel with the Arfield thread. For some reason I read that as Arfield "threat" lol Pottsy3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 That's some really shady shit from Mitrovic, if he told Herdman he was going to switch (and even started the process) only to reneg. El Hombre, The Real Marc and Obinna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, RS said: That's some really shady shit from Mitrovic, if he told Herdman he was going to switch (and even started the process) only to reneg. Would be par the course for him and his entourage though. Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just now, Obinna said: Would be par the course for him and his entourage though. Yeah I can't say I'm surprised. Maybe I was holding out hope that he was a different character from his dad. Pottsy3, dpetzz, Obinna and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Just now, RS said: Yeah I can't say I'm surprised. Maybe I was holding out hope that he was a different character from his dad. You're not the only one. I gave him the benefit of the doubt in the past too. I am sure the Dad is still running the show, advising him to go Serbian right now. Shady as it was, the logic behind accepting the Serbian call makes sense, as no switch would need to be filed. Might as well see how far he can push the Serbian angle. That said, starting the Canada paperwork and then pulling out is disrespectful of our time, and no matter how the Dad is advising, that one is squarely on Stef. Hard to find excuses for him now. TOcanadafan and RS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoppage Time Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 3 hours ago, RS said: That's some really shady shit from Mitrovic, if he told Herdman he was going to switch (and even started the process) only to reneg. We all recall the "I see no reason at this time that I will not be playing for Canada," uttered by one A. Begovic a few days before he got a better offer from Bosnia-Herzegovina. In addition, we recall the acceptance of a call up to Canada by Jacob Lensky to play against Poland before he did a last minute about face to put on the shirt of the Czech Republic. This after Lensky's dad lobbied the Czech federation to have Jacob chosen. If Mitrovic had indeed told Herdman that he would fill out his one time switch and play for Les Rouges only to suddenly go elsewhere, then that is dishonourable and, yes, shady. Boo!! The Real Marc and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razcal Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Why is this thread still in the Canadian Men's Forum. He's Serbian and I hope he bombs out with the Serbian team and never plays. So tired of his dad and am ready to move on. BearcatSA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTransport Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 19 minutes ago, Stoppage Time said: We all recall the "I see no reason at this time that I will not be playing for Canada," uttered by one A. Begovic a few days before he got a better offer from Bosnia-Herzegovina. In addition, we recall the acceptance of a call up to Canada by Jacob Lensky to play against Poland before he did a last minute about face to put on the shirt of the Czech Republic. This after Lensky's dad lobbied the Czech federation to have Jacob chosen. If Mitrovic had indeed told Herdman that he would fill out his one time switch and play for Les Rouges only to suddenly go elsewhere, then that is dishonourable and, yes, shady. Boo!! When the daddy’s boys (Flores & Mitrovic) have careers like Lensky, I hope the MLS Canadian teams and the CPL remember this behaviour 😇 Obinna, Corazon and narduch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Calling this guy up was not worth the drama. As @Razcal and others have posted, why hasn't this thread been moved? CanadaFan123 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 12 hours ago, SoCalTransport said: When the daddy’s boys (Flores & Mitrovic) have careers like Lensky, I hope the MLS Canadian teams and the CPL remember this behaviour 😇 Flores is gonna be a York United legend in 5 years. SoCalTransport, Obinna, narduch and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, InglewoodJack said: Flores is gonna be a York United legend in 5 years. Bold assumption of you to think that York United will be around in five years. (I kid, I kid.) rkomar, Mango, Free kick and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, BearcatSA said: Calling this guy up was not worth the drama. As @Razcal and others have posted, why hasn't this thread been moved? What a gaslighting loser his father is. Just admit you didn’t want to play for Canada and move on. dpetzz 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Canada failed in identifying him, Serbia didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, InglewoodJack said: Flores is gonna be a York United legend in 5 years. To be fair, he will sign but will never play and somehow get denied a work visa he never needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, frmr said: Canada failed in identifying him, Serbia didn't. Truth hurts sometimes but that's about the size of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said: What a gaslighting loser his father is. Just admit you didn’t want to play for Canada and move on. I agree but I still can’t understand why a guy playing in the Serbian top division and starting was not called up for that China Olympic qualifying tournament? I don’t remember him being called at all, based on just where he was playing he deserved a call up over some of the other players that played in that qualifying tournament. Therefore, that one is totally on the CSA . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) The Olympic qualifying was not during an International break. His club wouldn't have had to release him for it. Edited September 14, 2022 by narduch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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