General Discussion on CMNT

[Kadenge]

Another issue re potential 30 man squad. JH will want to get straight down to tactics, set pieces and prep to play Suriname in the 2nd game. Having 30 players to manage is going to be challenging, especially if they have not been to a CMNT camp before. We may see 1 or 2 "new" players max. 

[Olympique_de_Marseille]

1 hour ago, Kadenge said:

I agree that if it wasn't for injuries, TFC covid and France non-Euro travel, Oso, David, Kennedy & Henry would have been part of the March WCQ squad.  Tajon is making a strong case  playing first team footie. If  we can take a squad of 30 and play some vs Aruba  per@Olympique_de_Marseille  all those players could be included.  What's the chance of that though given  the CSA also has the GC to cover $$$. I just think it's highly unlikely we  see player overlap between WCQ/GC. 

I don't think adding an extra 7 to 10 players is what will make or break things in terms of financials. Hopefully you have Aruba hosting in Florida and so there is an extended camp at IMG.

[Blackjack15]

Pasher has been remarkable 

[TGAA_Star]

10 hours ago, Blackjack15 said:

Pasher has been remarkable 

Pasher has been great but also Singh he has impressed me too from whatever little I've watched 

[costarg]

11 hours ago, Blackjack15 said:

Pasher has been remarkable 

Surprised?  Pasher.  Very pleasantly surprised.

I hoped and felt Miller and Gutierrez had it in them.

[Blackjack15]

If all of these moves were to happen, our national team would look very good  

[VinceA]

You know who I just remembered? Alessandro Busti. Still in Serie D it seems. A shame. 

[jordan]

1 hour ago, VinceA said:

You know who I just remembered? Alessandro Busti. Still in Serie D it seems. A shame. 

unattached I believe

[Blackjack15]

Really interesting conversation from Galindo and Nef on if we'll see Jebbison, Dias and Flores in June

[dyslexic nam]

1 hour ago, Blackjack15 said:

Really interesting conversation from Galindo and Nef on if we'll see Jebbison, Dias and Flores in June

 An you provide the coles notes?  I probably won’t listen for an hr 

[Aird25]

19 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said:

 An you provide the coles notes?  I probably won’t listen for an hr 

I find there's so much soccer content on podcasts these days that I completely miss, and I think get's missed by many.

[Kent]

4 hours ago, Aird25 said:

I find there's so much soccer content on podcasts these days that I completely miss, and I think get's missed by many.

Personally I'm not a fan of podcasts. Too much chit chat to pad the length of the podcast, and you can't easily reference it and look it up in the future.

But I'm probably just old. I do read a lot of chit chat on here (and evidently produce a lot too), so maybe my time isn't as scarce as I like to think it is.

[TGAA_Star]

So much fill for soccer coming up because not only do we have the Canada matches against Aruba and Suriname but right after that are the EUROs which start on June 11th

Then Copa America 2021 starting June 13th

And then right after is the Gold Cup but it isn't until July 10th

But back to Canada, as soon as we finish off these 2 games for World Cup qualifying, it makes me wonder who Hardman drops or who he includes in our 23 man squad for Gold Cup 2021

[dyslexic nam]

8 hours ago, Kent said:

Personally I'm not a fan of podcasts. Too much chit chat to pad the length of the podcast, and you can't easily reference it and look it up in the future.

But I'm probably just old. I do read a lot of chit chat on here (and evidently produce a lot too), so maybe my time isn't as scarce as I like to think it is.

Everything you just said.  

[ADP10]

8 hours ago, Kent said:

Personally I'm not a fan of podcasts. Too much chit chat to pad the length of the podcast, and you can't easily reference it and look it up in the future.

But I'm probably just old. I do read a lot of chit chat on here (and evidently produce a lot too), so maybe my time isn't as scarce as I like to think it is.

they’re great for commuting or doing repetitive tasks like chores 

[Blackjack15]

16 hours ago, Blackjack15 said:

Really interesting conversation from Galindo and Nef on if we'll see Jebbison, Dias and Flores in June

 

15 hours ago, dyslexic nam said:

 An you provide the coles notes? 

1:16 – Is Vancouver vs. Montreal a derby?

3:42 – Vancouver Whitecaps 2-0 CF Montreal

14:10 – New York Red Bulls 2-0 Toronto FC

26:33 – Predicting who Herdman will call up in June

34:05 – Should Canada be worried about Suriname?

43:10 – Canadians Abroad Mailbag (Flores, Atanasov, Paton, etc.)

55:03 – Jebbison's debut, Hoilett's future, CPL updates and more!

[Shway]

3 hours ago, ADP10 said:

they’re great for commuting or doing repetitive tasks like chores 

This, I literally listen to them when I am working on something. It's like having the TV on, but your not watching just listening. 
I'll rewind parts if I hear something interesting that I was passively listening too. 

But as fan of all things Canadian soccer, Northern Futbol covers just that. If you haven't I would suggest you take them in.

Edited May 12, 2021 by Shway

[El Hombre]

14 hours ago, Kent said:

But I'm probably just old.

Seeing this and @Unnamed Trialist rip into another young 'un on another thread makes me think that this board should have a section for Grumpy Old Codgers to sit around and complain how kids don't show enough respect these days. 

I'll be there waxing poetic about Richard Hastings and Martin Nash.

[longlugan]

Can I join? I've been envious of Bruce Wilson's hair ever since the 86 World Cup. I've never understood the desire to play sports of any sort with hair like Rene " I'm Rick James bitch" Higuita.🤷‍♂️ 

[TGAA_Star]

On 5/11/2021 at 2:22 PM, Blackjack15 said:

If all of these moves were to happen, our national team would look very good  

If all these moves happened, it would make these players more legit

[Corazon]

Canadians in MLS.  So far year to date we already have seen 38 Canadian or Canadian eligible players receive some minutes this season.

Player	Team	Position	GP	GS	MP	G	A
Lucas Cavallini	Vancouver	ST	6	6	540	1	0
Cristian Gutierrez	Vancouver	LB	6	6	540	0	2
Kamal Miller	Montreal	CB	6	6	540	0	0
Richie Laryea	Toronto	RB	5	5	450	1	0
Alistair Johnston	Nashville	RB	5	5	450	0	0
Mark Anthony Kaye	Los Angeles	CM	5	5	421	0	1
Russell Teibert	Vancouver	CM	5	5	417	0	0
Tesho Akindele	Orlando	ST	5	5	360	1	1
Samuel Piette	Montreal	CM	4	4	354	0	2
Tajon Buchanan	New England	RW	6	4	321	0	1
Michael Baldisimo	Vancouver	CM	4	2	255	0	0
Jay Chapman	Miami	CM	5	3	250	0	0
Tyler Pasher	Houston	ST	3	3	239	1	1
Zach Brault-Guillard	Montreal	RB	3	3	235	1	2
Ayo Akinola	Toronto	ST	4	3	213	0	0
Ralph Priso	Toronto	CM	4	3	195	0	0
Clement Bayiha	Montreal	RB	3	2	183	0	0
Luke Singh	Toronto	CB	2	2	180	1	0
Derek Cornelious	Vancouver	CB	4	1	140	0	0
Noble Okello	Toronto	CM	3	2	132	0	0
Mathieu Choiniere	Montreal	CM	2	1	111	0	0
Jacob Shaffelburg	Toronto	LW	3	1	109	1	0
Jayden Nelson	Toronto	RW	2	2	101	0	0
Joel Waterman	Montreal	CB	1	1	90	0	0
Ryan Raposo	Vancouver	CM	6	1	78	0	0
Zorhan Bassong	Montreal	LB	3	0	59	0	0
Liam Fraser	Columbus (from Toronto)	CM	2	0	54	0	0
Jordan Peruzza	Toronto	ST	1	0	45	0	0
Jahkeele Marshall-Rutty	Toronto	CM	2	0	35	0	1
Kamron Habibullah	Vancouver	CM	2	0	30	0	0
Jonathan Osorio	Toronto	CM	1	0	29	1	0
Raheem Edwards	Los Angeles	LW	2	0	25	0	0
Ashtone Morgan	Salt Lake	LB	1	0	14	0	0
Theo Bair	Vancouver	ST	1	0	10	0	0
Patrick Metcalfe	Vancouver	CM	1	0	1	0	0
Damiano Pecile	Vancouver (to Venezia)	CM
Simon Colyn	Vancouver (to SPAL)	CM
Gianfranco Facchineri	Vancouver	CB
Tosaint Ricketts	Vancouver	ST
Rocco Romeo	Toronto (to HB Koge)	CB
Julian Dunn-Johnson	Toronto	CB
Sean Rea	Montreal (to Valour FC)	CM
Tomas Giraldo	Montreal (to FC Edmonton)	CM
Karifa Yao	Montreal (to Cavalry FC)	CB
Keesean Ferdinand	Montreal (to Atletico Ottawa)	CB
Ballou Jean-Yves Tabla	Montreal	ST
Jean-Aniel Assi	Montreal	ST
Nathan-Dylan Saliba	Montreal	CM
Rida Zouhir	Montreal	C
Callum Montgomery	Minnesota	CB
Player	Team	Position	GP	GS	MP	S	GA
Maxime Crepeau	Vancouver	GK	6	6	540	21	7
Dayne St Clair	Minnesota	GK	4	4	360	11	10
James Pantemis	Montreal	GK	1	1	90	1	0
Thomas Hasal	Vancouver	GK
Greg Ranjitsingh	Philadelphia	GK
Jonathan Sirois	Montreal (to Valour FC)	GK
Isaac Boehmer	Vancouver	GK
Sebastian Breza	Montreal (from Bologna)	GK

[dyslexic nam]

So I have somewhat coasted along reading the many posts about our upcoming games, but never really stood back and taken the big picture view of things.  Now, I am wondering about the idea that we would consider fielding a B team for the Gold Cup.  By my count, we have the following games (and potential games) lined up:

June 5 - WCQ vs vs Aruba

June 8 - WCQ vs Suriname

**June 12 - WCQ playoff, possibly against Haiti

**June 15 - WCQ playoff, possibly against Haiti

July 11 - GC vs Martinique

July 15 - GC vs prelim winner

July 18 - GC vs USA

**July 24/25 - GC QF

**July 29 - GC SF

**Aug 1 - GC Finals

(All ** games are dependent on other results )

After that, the next potential games would be the start of the Octo itself, with games in Sept, Oct and Nov.  If we get there, we would want to be as prepared as possible for those Octo games.  Would we really waste the chance to have 3-6 more competitive matches for our first team to work on tactics and cohesion?

I know folks have talked about lingering injuries and the need for a proper summer break, but a lot of our guys are fairly young and would have pretty good powers of recovery.  Plus there is still a one-month layoff between the potential Haiti/whoever games and the start of the Gold Cup.  If I am a coach looking to maximize preparation for possible Octo games (which start in September) that will decide if we get to Qatar,  I don't think I would waste those games between June and September. 

I may be missing some very important info.  This issue may have already been definitively settled by the CSA.  Or I could have my wikipedia-driven scheduling wrong.  But I wonder if the powers that be may take a full strength (or near full strength) squad to the Gold Cup. 

[VinceA]

23 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said:

So I have somewhat coasted along reading the many posts about our upcoming games, but never really stood back and taken the big picture view of things.  Now, I am wondering about the idea that we would consider fielding a B team for the Gold Cup.  By my count, we have the following games (and potential games) lined up:

June 5 - WCQ vs vs Aruba

June 8 - WCQ vs Suriname

**June 12 - WCQ playoff, possibly against Haiti

**June 15 - WCQ playoff, possibly against Haiti

July 11 - GC vs Martinique

July 15 - GC vs prelim winner

July 18 - GC vs USA

**July 24/25 - GC QF

**July 29 - GC SF

**Aug 1 - GC Finals

(All ** games are dependent on other results )

After that, the next potential games would be the start of the Octo itself, with games in Sept, Oct and Nov.  If we get there, we would want to be as prepared as possible for those Octo games.  Would we really waste the chance to have 3-6 more competitive matches for our first team to work on tactics and cohesion?

I know folks have talked about lingering injuries and the need for a proper summer break, but a lot of our guys are fairly young and would have pretty good powers of recovery.  Plus there is still a one-month layoff between the potential Haiti/whoever games and the start of the Gold Cup.  If I am a coach looking to maximize preparation for possible Octo games (which start in September) that will decide if we get to Qatar,  I don't think I would waste those games between June and September. 

I may be missing some very important info.  This issue may have already been definitively settled by the CSA.  Or I could have my wikipedia-driven scheduling wrong.  But I wonder if the powers that be may take a full strength (or near full strength) squad to the Gold Cup. 

While a lot of our guys our young I think there are two issues at play. This is more so for European players than MLS based ones.

 

Clubs will probably not be happy and will try to dissuade their guys from doing both camps, particularly because of the lack of rest and risk of injury.

Secondly that lack of rest I think is overlooked. Players have regularly spoken out on the toll this past year and a half has taken on their bodies with almost no rest besides the initial COVID shutdowns. Players need some time off many of them haven't really had that. 

 

[narduch]

I'm fully expecting David to miss the Gold Cup.

And any player who makes a big move in a Euro league may not be there either (Larin? Eustaquaio?).

I also don't think Atiba will be there.

I also think Davies will be there. Its part of his global brand.

Edited May 17, 2021 by narduch

[dyslexic nam]

1 minute ago, VinceA said:

While a lot of our guys our young I think there are two issues at play. This is more so for European players than MLS based ones.

 

Clubs will probably not be happy and will try to dissuade their guys from doing both camps, particularly because of the lack of rest and risk of injury.

Secondly that lack of rest I think is overlooked. Players have regularly spoken out on the toll this past year and a half has taken on their bodies with almost no rest besides the initial COVID shutdowns. Players need some time off many of them haven't really had that. 

 

I get it.  But this is it.  The big show.  If we happen to drop a couple of the more winnable games early on the Octo while we are knocking the rust off (from mid-June), we are probably as good as done.