narduch Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantic Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Even with how incompetent the CSA is, I have a hard time believing New Zealand have the inside track financially to win over Herdman dyslexic nam, Floortom, johnyb and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTransport Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, narduch said: The article doesn't actually seem as confident as the headline. narduch, johnyb, cornerkick and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Please be true. Buchta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Honestly think this would be a blessing in disguise. Stryker911, gator, Dominic94 and 4 others 4 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Except for the potential landmine of finding a replacement i would agree it may be time to move on for both sides. A small part of me worries he’s still needed to motivate our players to show and to commit and no one has done that better than him narduch and ray 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Have been thinking this too. Especially after how the World Cup played out. Still don't trust the CSA to get the replacement right. But maybe that is PTSD Ivan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Pinto Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 After an exhaustive global search Earl Cochrane has been named the head coach of the Canadian Men's National Team - future headline Floortom, Mattd97, El Hombre and 12 others 4 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) It’s a near certainty the CSA would do worse than Herdman. I cant believe there are people who actually think this would work out well for us. Edited February 1, 2023 by Floortom El Hombre, canadave, Corazon and 19 others 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grigorio Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, David Pinto said: After an exhaustive global search Earl Cochrane has been named the head coach of the Canadian Men's National Team - future headline You mean Andrew Olivieri Corazon and Olympique_de_Marseille 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Bring OZ back 🙃 #unfinishedbusiness narduch and Addona 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasi Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 What the actual fuck. This is not good. I cant see us bringing anyone as good or better due to the clown show at the CSA. If true we are fucked. Sal333 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiecanuck Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Seems like some wreckless tweeting by people who aren't proper journalists. It's clear that Herdman is in negotiations with New Zealand and Canada. Who wouldn't use leverage to get the best deal for his family. I still think Canada matches what New Zealand offers. If you want to coach club football, leading Canada who will play the gold cup 2023, potential for Copa 2024, Gold cup 2025 and world cup 2026 gives you your best opportunity. If he leaves for New Zealand the money would have to be a lot more. Kadenge and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack1997 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Ancelotti would be a very unlikely dream, other than that I really don’t know any good Canadian soccer managers who would take this job it’s likely gonna end up being biello. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 While I don’t see it happening, there are a couple factors that could entice him to New Zealand. For one, his son is eligible for them and they’re basically guaranteed a spot at the 2026 World Cup. So it is a legitimate chance to coach his son at a World Cup. On the other hand, probably not a great career move to leave a team like ours when it will be hosting the World Cup. johnyb, gator and Jack1997 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaub Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Floortom said: It’s a near certainty the CSA would do worse than Herdman. I cant believe there are people who actually think this would work out well for us. This 100%. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 9 minutes ago, theaub said: This 100%. But it's under the assumption that Herdman was going to stick around long term. If he isn't committed through 2026 - which I've always suspected - then I'd rather have it happen now and sell the replacement on a build up with Gold Cup / Nations / Copa / WC 2026 as their own, rather than a "oh shit, find me a warm body" situation. It's not like he hasn't dipped on a team with little notice before. Edited February 1, 2023 by Califax hodgkiss, gator and Jack1997 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiecanuck Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Maybe it's time to talk about a new coach. Maybe the smoke really is indicating there's a fire? https://twitter.com/KristianJack/status/1620781696126947328?s=20&t=WFR2SuUZy3OcbyZS-hJlPg narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, Califax said: But it's under the assumption that Herdman was going to stick around long term. If he isn't committed through 2026 - which I've always suspected - then I'd rather have it happen now and sell the replacement on a build up with Gold Cup / Nations / Copa / WC 2026 as their own, rather than a "oh shit, find me a warm body" situation. It's not like he hasn't dipped on a team with little notice before. If Herdman leaves, here is exactly what is going to happen: March - Mauro Biello is named as interim coach. We will perform poorly against Honduras and squeak by Curacao. April - Bontis and Cochrane will wax poetic about the hundreds of applications we've received. May - Rumours will abound about possible candidates: "Was that Ancellotti in Vancouver?" "Did someone re-animate Guus Hiddink?" "I'm pretty sure I saw Rene Simoes leave the CSA offices yesterday!" June - Two weeks before the Gold Cup, Mauro Biello will be made Head Coach and Bontis/Cochrane will cite "keeping continuity from the World Cup" as the main driving factor behind the choice. July - Joni Mitchell's "Big Yellow Taxi" gets a resurgence on Spotify because for some reason it gets added to thousands of playlists belonging to malcontents in Canada. I wish I was joking. grigorio, Califax, Obinna and 13 others 4 2 7 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Jack1997 said: Ancelotti would be a very unlikely dream, other than that I really don’t know any good Canadian soccer managers who would take this job it’s likely gonna end up being biello. I am in no way wanting Herdman out. Despite some obvious miscues along the way, he still has my full support. Having said that, if he does choose to leave, I hope the CSA would find the wisdom to pursue Ancelotti. There is so much to love about that idea. He retired but the international game is completely different than the club grind. He has a natural affinity for Canada and would love to see us do well. He has the experience and gravitas to immediately command the respect of the team (even the bigger egos). And you know he would be as tactically astute and prepared as any coach could possibly be. I still support Herdman but if I was the CSA I would be putting some feelers out via backchannels to see if this is a viable plan B. Herdman may be using NZ for leverage - and if so it is perfectly fine for the CSA to do the same thing to let Herdman know we aren’t being held at ransom. Edited February 1, 2023 by dyslexic nam johnyb, The Beaver 2.0, Califax and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Marc Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 53 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said: While I don’t see it happening, there are a couple factors that could entice him to New Zealand. For one, his son is eligible for them and they’re basically guaranteed a spot at the 2026 World Cup. So it is a legitimate chance to coach his son at a World Cup. On the other hand, probably not a great career move to leave a team like ours when it will be hosting the World Cup. I think New Zealand makes a lot of sense. With Canada now he has expectations. His coaching failed at the World Cup. Canada won't have to qualify, so all the games are friendlies which don't suit a motivational coach like him. And then, with the lack of intense preparation and a less strong "brotherhood", there is the risk of the team tanking at home. It's iffy for him from here on in, with a risk of looking like he was a fluke or plateaued or started the slide down in his career. A motivator like Herdman needs a mission. New Zealand has a great shot at the World Cup but is underdog enough to give him some fire to spread amongst the squad. Edited February 1, 2023 by The Real Marc Califax, narduch, gator and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiecanuck Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, El Hombre said: If Herdman leaves, here is exactly what is going to happen: March - Mauro Biello is named as interim coach. We will perform poorly against Honduras and squeak by Curacao. April - Bontis and Cochrane will wax poetic about the hundreds of applications we've received. May - Rumours will abound about possible candidates: "Was that Ancellotti in Vancouver?" "Did someone re-animate Guus Hiddink?" "I'm pretty sure I saw Rene Simoes leave the CSA offices yesterday!" June - Two weeks before the Gold Cup, Mauro Biello will be made Head Coach and Bontis/Cochrane will cite "keeping continuity from the World Cup" as the main driving factor behind the choice. July - Joni Mitchell's "Big Yellow Taxi" gets a resurgence on Spotify because for some reason it gets added to thousands of playlists belonging to malcontents in Canada. I wish I was joking. We lose to Honduras and Copa is not a guarantee. 2 2nd place teams make the Copa in 24. If Jon does leave, I'm all in on the Liverpool train. A knockout in the round of 16 of Champions League and a 2nd place finish in La Liga might be enough to get a manager sacked from Real Madrid..lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiecanuck Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, The Real Marc said: I think New Zealand makes a lot of sense. With Canada now he has expectations. His motivational coaching failed at the World Cup. Canada won't have to qualify, so all the games are friendlies which don't suit a coach like him. And then the risk of the team tanking at home. It's riskier for him from here on in, with a risk of looking like he has plateaued or started the slide down in his career. A motivator like Herdman needs a mission. New Zealand has a great shot at the World Cup but is underdog enough to give him some fire to spread amongst the squad. John's still a young man. Getting results against Conembol nations in the Copa and getting results in 26 world cup is the thing that would give him opportunites at club football. Canada likely has a greater opportunity to play higher ranked nations in friendlies. I'm shocked he's leaving, if that is indeed the case. Califax 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I am not as negative about this news if it in fact happens as some of you, yes I am concerned about the CSA's ability to get the right hire but 4 years is a long time and even if the 1st hire doesn't work out there will be another chance to get it right! I like to think we have progressed as a soccer nation and supporters will be more demanding of the CSA and will not support an inside the old boys club hire! Herdman has done wonders for the program but there is a shelf life for most managers not named Ferguson, after what for me was a disappointing showing at the WC I welcome a change and some new tactical ideas, once again we are at the mercy of the CSA not completely screwing up the hire! Herdman has shown he is a salesman which probably helped bring in some dual nationals, the program should be better at selling itself now and JH was always going to looking for other opportunities, his record shows that, I hope this works out for all parties! The Real Marc, johnyb, Ivan and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Complete step down for him professionally, and I think he has too many opportunities to go back to NZ if it was a lifestyle question. but what does that say about Canada soccer? What do they have that we don’t? If we lose Herdman to NZ, that says a lot about who we are as a soccer nation. Free kick, Ruud and Vasi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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