Kent Posted December 18, 2019 Share Posted December 18, 2019 1 hour ago, TFC2017 said: That's a little unfair. McDavid, Messi and Ronaldo have always played at the highest levels possible. To relate them to Borges and the levels they played at to the Canadian Premier League are so different they shouldn't even be in the same conversation. Also although Borges is probably the best players in the league, I and most people who watch will probably agree that he isnt dominating the league on a Messi/Ronaldo level. I think you may be hyping him up a little too much. Great prospect and he should definitely move to a higher league but you seem to be exaggerating too much He wasn’t over hyping, I think maybe you misunderstood his intent. He was saying Messi, Ronaldo etc are better than their competition and managed to continue to improve despite that. So he was saying that Borges should also be able to improve against competition that he is better than, especially since the gap between Borges and the players defending him isn’t as big as the gap between Messi and the players defending him. Bbeto, TFC2017, Addona and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC2017 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 On 12/18/2019 at 5:09 PM, CanadaFan123 said: I'm not relating the levels. I'm relating skill proportionate to level. I.e. McDavid is a lot more skilled than the average NHL player than Borges is more skilled than the average CPL player. I'm unsure what you mean when you say I'm "hyping him up a little too much" by saying that it's okay to stay in CPL? Do you mean I'm not hyping him enough? I'll try to make my point as simple as possible: Borges is not THAT far above CPL level that it's a big deal that he's staying, in fact it could be positive based on his developmental trajectory of last year. On 12/18/2019 at 5:15 PM, Kent said: He wasn’t over hyping, I think maybe you misunderstood his intent. He was saying Messi, Ronaldo etc are better than their competition and managed to continue to improve despite that. So he was saying that Borges should also be able to improve against competition that he is better than, especially since the gap between Borges and the players defending him isn’t as big as the gap between Messi and the players defending him. I'm sorry I must have misunderstood. Good news is he was recently called up to a camp which I think is a huge positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Tristan got called up to the 2020 Camp Poutine, his first for the senior mens team. (career thread tracking purposes) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I don't mind Borges in the CPL for another year. He's only 21 so if he made the jump to, say, MLS next year he wouldn't even be much older than NCAA players turning pro. CANMNT_SUPERFAN, gator, Obinna and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Still hope he does better than MLS! These international games will be big ones to see how he holds up. Probably the most logical and likely move though. CANMNT_SUPERFAN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 He could do alot worse than turning into Osorio 2.0. toontownman and deschamp86 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC2017 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Tristan Borges -> Oud-Heverlee Leuven Ivan, Cheeta, apbsmith and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFC2017 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 All the best to Tristan. Amazing season and I hope he can help them get promoted to the 1st division in Belgium! Ivan, johnyb, Obinna and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) The David effect.. Also with all the talk on here about multi club Ownership, OHL is owned by King Power who also owns Leicester. Edited January 22, 2020 by Stryker911 Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I know I'll get a lot of hate but in my opinion it seems like Joel Waterman, a part time starter, got the better move with a move to Montreal Impact than the league MVP who led his team to the first CPL Championship did. A sale to a European side is a significant event for CPL as a league but Oud-Heverlee Leuven FC is a step down from any MLS move even if by chance they do get promoted to the first division. BCM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 9 minutes ago, Ruffian said: I know I'll get a lot of hate but in my opinion it seems like Joel Waterman, a part time starter, got the better move with a move to Montreal Impact than the league MVP who led his team to the first CPL Championship did. A sale to a European side is a significant event for CPL as a league but Oud-Heverlee Leuven FC is a step down from any MLS move even if by chance they do get promoted to the first division. We don’t know the terms of the deal though. It’s 300k plus escalators that can make it be worth 500k. I’m sure one of the escalators is promotion and the other is around performance. So it may be a good transfer. Either way it’s good for Borges and the league. If he really performs then future transfers will be larger. This is a benchmark setting deal. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 minutes ago, baulderdash77 said: We don’t know the terms of the deal though. It’s 300k plus escalators that can make it be worth 500k. I’m sure one of the escalators is promotion and the other is around performance. So it may be a good transfer. Either way it’s good for Borges and the league. If he really performs then future transfers will be larger. This is a benchmark setting deal. The transfer fee is a good deal for the CPL and likely Forge FC. What Borges may have gotten is a higher salary from Leuven than he would have gotten from a Canadian MLS team who may have low balled him. So if that is the case then a good financial deal for Borges too. El Hombre, johnyb, Cheeta and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) Belgium league is a trampoline league, MLS is not structured to move players along to bigger clubs and leagues. Tristan probably feels it's a better place to showcase himself for a bigger move over the next couple seasons Edited January 22, 2020 by SpursFlu CANMNT_SUPERFAN, Bertuzzi44, deschamp86 and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 Leuven is in a good place to get promoted. Mechelen, who got promoted last year, are currently 7th this season. So there is alot of movement in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BradMack Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 King Power owning them makes it interesting. I suppose thats why the transfer fee is higher than expected. Huge for Forge who will have half next years wages covered by this single transfer, and great for Borges who I suspect is going to come in and be handed minutes, as thats a lot of cash in the second division of belgium for a Bench player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, BradMack said: Huge for Forge who will have half next years wages covered by this single transfer, and great for Borges who I suspect is going to come in and be handed minutes, as thats a lot of cash in the second division of belgium for a Bench player. Until we find out that the league gets half of the fee! BradMack and Mikmacdo 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmacdo Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 59 minutes ago, Ruffian said: I know I'll get a lot of hate but in my opinion it seems like Joel Waterman, a part time starter, got the better move with a move to Montreal Impact than the league MVP who led his team to the first CPL Championship did. A sale to a European side is a significant event for CPL as a league but Oud-Heverlee Leuven FC is a step down from any MLS move even if by chance they do get promoted to the first division. Borges will probably start while waterman is likely to be a bench player. OHL are in the playoffs so they have a good chance to move up next season which would put Borges in a better place than MLS. Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 OHL has already qualified for the promotion playoff. Their league uses a split season. They are probably loading up in anticipation of the final. They aren't doing as well in the 2nd season. Addona 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 OHL won the 1st half of the season so they are already in the promotion playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JuicyHam Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 1 minute ago, canta15 said: OHL won the 1st half of the season so they are already in the promotion playoffs If they win the second half of the season which is entirely possible they get automatically promoted as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 While I prefer this move to an MLS move, does this possibly rule him out for the Olympic qualifiers? Clubs must release players for the fifa window, but the qualifiers don't perfectly fit into it, right? Might make things complicated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 4 minutes ago, JuicyHam said: If they win the second half of the season which is entirely possible they get automatically promoted as well There is a CPL joke/dig in there somewhere... johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Obinna said: While I prefer this move to an MLS move, does this possibly rule him out for the Olympic qualifiers? Clubs must release players for the fifa window, but the qualifiers don't perfectly fit into it, right? Might make things complicated. If I just paid that much money for a player and I have promotion at stake, there is no way in hell he gets released except in a FIFA window. And imagine if he got injured during the qualifiers???? Someone’s head in Leuven would roll. Edited January 22, 2020 by JamboAl TFC2017, BradMack, Cheeta and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 I haven't checked OHL's schedule but a lot of lower divisions don't follow the international breaks. Obinna and TFC2017 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted January 22, 2020 Share Posted January 22, 2020 2 hours ago, Ruffian said: Until we find out that the league gets half of the fee! But isn't Forge the league? Junkie and The Real Marc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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