The Beaver 2.0 Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Damned proud of what he's doing for Porto! Happy for him, too. He keeps rising to the occasion; he keeps getting better. jhoops__, SirBobsaget, canadasoccer20 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 10 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: He is performing in the Champions League. If he tops that off with any sort of noteworthy performance at the WC (where he will could very well play all 270+ minutes) I think it is safe to say that his value continues to rise. Yeah, provided he continues at this pace, we can expect another champions league goal, 2-3 in league play, 270 minutes at the World Cup, maybe even another league title, I think it’ll be hard to find many players with a better resume than his aside from the names every top team will go after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 Kadenge and A_Gagne 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigandy Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: Yeah, provided he continues at this pace, we can expect another champions league goal, 2-3 in league play, 270 minutes at the World Cup, maybe even another league title, I think it’ll be hard to find many players with a better resume than his aside from the names every top team will go after. He for sure has to be in the conversation for best player who isn't a "superstar" that every big team is after. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted November 1, 2022 Share Posted November 1, 2022 This man was made for Movember! The Beaver 2.0, johnyb, Addona and 5 others 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Crap, I totally forgot to start growing my mustache. I need a few weeks as a running start... Any of you up for World Cup beards? Lurker and jhoops__ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 There's a lot of players a clubs where if they get the opportunity to move to a mid-tier club in one of the "big 5" leagues, I'm usually of the opinion they should look to take it. Being at Porto is a rare exception. They're a top 20 club based on the UEFA co-efficient, they play in what's been the #6 league for a while, and they're always in Champions league with the pressure and legitimate ability to move on from the group stage. So if he gets the chance to move to one of the big clubs in one of the big 5, then sure take it. But I think this is a case of not settling for a more mediocre side in a "better" league. johnyb, yomurphy1, PiedPilko and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 He's top of the league in expected assists per 90 right now. It's not even close Addona, yomurphy1, A.D.I.D.A.S. and 15 others 13 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 4 hours ago, PiedPilko said: He's top of the league in expected assists per 90 right now. It's not even close I kinda dislike those "expected" stats. It borderlines on the fantasy vs actualities of the game. My wife expects me to last over 10 minutes, but reality is it can be just 2 mins. johnyb, Gian-Luca, Jack1997 and 4 others 3 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Shway said: I kinda dislike those "expected" stats. It borderlines on the fantasy vs actualities of the game. My wife expects me to last over 10 minutes, but reality is it can be just 2 mins. I agree more for XG, since beating the odds is the whole point of being a striker. For playmaking though, I think you get a more reliable long-term metric. Shway, rkomar, Pottsy3 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PiedPilko said: I agree more for XG, since beating the odds is the whole point of being a striker. For playmaking though, I think you get a more reliable long-term metric. In other words, a striker spoiling a would-be assist cannot take away from the quality of the playmaker when you look at the data this way. Edited November 4, 2022 by Obinna Corazon, PiedPilko, Shway and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Obinna said: In other words, a striker spoiling a would-be assist should have little-to-no bearing on the quality of the setup. but this is also called "Key passes". Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Shway said: but this is also called "Key passes". I guess that is true. I wonder how many key passes Stephen has this season... Also, are key passes restricted to the final pass, or do secondary assists technically count as key passes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Obinna said: I guess that is true. I wonder how many key passes Stephen has this season... Also, are key passes restricted to the final pass, or do secondary assists technically count as key passes? A key pass is a pass that leads directly to a shot that’s saved. Secondary and primary assists only occur when a goal is actually scored. xA is like xG in that they happen regardless of whether a goal is scored or not. maccaliam and Obinna 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegCityCam Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Beautiful assist🔥 Ivan, sebdeserio, Norrin Radd and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 He’s tied for most assists in Portugal now I believe johnyb, PegCityCam, sebdeserio and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 DeRo_Is_King, johnyb, sebdeserio and 20 others 18 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig11rm Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Wow he’s becoming a complete midfielder that can play as a 10, 8 or 6 eh? narduch, vancanman, An Observer and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I guess I should take back the thing about him not having the tools to be an 8. Like on the surface... he really shouldn't lol. He's not that fast, he doesn't dribble much - but he cancels it out with well-timed runs and perfect passing. He seems to evolve his game every season. costarg and jhoops__ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 8 minutes ago, PiedPilko said: I guess I should take back the thing about him not having the tools to be an 8. Like on the surface... he really shouldn't lol. He's not that fast, he doesn't dribble much - but he cancels it out with well-timed runs and perfect passing. He seems to evolve his game every season. He is playing faster too, which is great to see. He's growing. Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 22 minutes ago, PiedPilko said: I guess I should take back the thing about him not having the tools to be an 8. Like on the surface... he really shouldn't lol. He's not that fast, he doesn't dribble much - but he cancels it out with well-timed runs and perfect passing. He seems to evolve his game every season. He is very aware of who is around him and knows the passing play to make before he receives the ball. Staq is a 1/2 touch player. He doesn't need to dribble because of those attributes. This is something he possesed even when he played in Portugal's 2nd division...moving the ball very quickly. He's just never had the opportunity to play this high and in support of the forwards vs the #6 role. Kudos to him and Porto's coach. jhoops__, Sal333, lamptern and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Porto will face Inter Milan in Champions League NVsoccer, johnyb, GasPed and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, narduch said: Porto will face Inter Milan in Champions League Both him and Tajon got favourable draws. johnyb, GasPed, Cowtown Kyle and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhoops__ Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 11/5/2022 at 4:48 PM, PiedPilko said: I guess I should take back the thing about him not having the tools to be an 8. Like on the surface... he really shouldn't lol. He's not that fast, he doesn't dribble much - but he cancels it out with well-timed runs and perfect passing. He seems to evolve his game every season. Yeah, his motor is on another level too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imoffside Posted November 8, 2022 Share Posted November 8, 2022 Doesn't get a rest today and starts vs Mafra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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