Güerito Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 https://www.instagram.com/p/CcqaOH8rAnY/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY= Approve My Account Pls, sebdeserio, Corazon and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 https://www.instagram.com/p/-HvRLfh8Wx/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= SpecialK, Corazon, N1ckbr0wn and 2 others 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 51 minutes ago, Güerito said: https://www.instagram.com/p/CcqaOH8rAnY/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY= Boy, they use some really strong words. Justin says he's proud to represent his country. Poku and Pellegrino call him brother. Something tells me @El Hombre was right. Herdman asked Biello to instill a sense of the brotherhood. sebdeserio, narduch, johnyb and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 27 minutes ago, Sal333 said: Something tells me @El Hombre was right. This can't be said enough around here. Wingback6, baulderdash77, RS and 9 others 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Güerito Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Stryker911 said: https://www.instagram.com/p/-HvRLfh8Wx/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Okay there buzzkill... Can't we just live in the moment? 😅 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Approve My Account Pls Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Stryker911 said: https://www.instagram.com/p/-HvRLfh8Wx/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= Let's get stupidly into the semantics here: Tomori had a "Great time AWAY with Canada" and was "buzzing to get my first international goal" while Smith was "Fier d’avoir représenté mon pays" or "Proud to represent MY country" Justin Smith seemingly identifies with being Canadian and is comfortable claiming that publicly while Fikayo goes out of his way to remain neutral and as a player for Canada but chooses to not identify as Canadian. Edited April 22, 2022 by Approve My Account Pls Macksam, Olympique_de_Marseille, johnyb and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 It's crazy how we in this group view and rate players on opposite sides of the dual national "fence". Justin Smith (born and raised in France) - "Proud to represent my country" in reference to representing the country of his parents in Canada. Marcelo Flores (born and raised in Canada/England) - "Reposts Mexican Federation qualifying for World Cup" in reference to the nation he represents (which is the country of his father). Us "die hard fans" have two very different views of the same scenario. Hopefully the CSA starts putting together more of a youth program for us. This won't solve all dual nationals but it will help. Sal333, Ivan, TOcanadafan and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 The way the duals approach it makes a big difference to how the V's look at it. When the guys and their reps do a lot of talking and jockeying in public I think everyone is turned off, including the fans who eventually support the team he chooses. narduch and vancanman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Bison44 said: The way the duals approach it makes a big difference to how the V's look at it. When the guys and their reps do a lot of talking and jockeying in public I think everyone is turned off, including the fans who eventually support the team he chooses. This is very true as well. It's also a lot different when a Federation like France has little to no interest in that player. Justin Smith is also likely smart enough to realize that France has never and will likely never be interested. He's the young dual national that I am most excited about for Canada so it's no slight on him. Just the reality that there are many good professional players from France that will never be able to represent France on the international level. Edited April 22, 2022 by Corazon johnyb, vancanman and Ivan 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 Let’s not pretend that we are burdened by rationality or consistency when it comes to dual nationals. We all get ridiculously excited to watch 11 guys kick a balloon between some sticks - it isn’t exactly a reason-based endeavour. Mix in a healthy dose of national pride and you can justify just about anything. Xavier., MtlMario, El Hombre and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasi Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 4 hours ago, dyslexic nam said: Let’s not pretend that we are burdened by rationality or consistency when it comes to dual nationals. We all get ridiculously excited to watch 11 guys kick a balloon between some sticks - it isn’t exactly a reason-based endeavour. Mix in a healthy dose of national pride and you can justify just about anything. This! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 18 hours ago, Approve My Account Pls said: Let's get stupidly into the semantics here: Tomori had a "Great time AWAY with Canada" and was "buzzing to get my first international goal" while Smith was "Fier d’avoir représenté mon pays" or "Proud to represent MY country" Justin Smith seemingly identifies with being Canadian and is comfortable claiming that publicly while Fikayo goes out of his way to remain neutral and as a player for Canada but chooses to not identify as Canadian. Very astute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted April 23, 2022 Share Posted April 23, 2022 21 hours ago, El Hombre said: This can't be said enough around here. Only a married man would say this. El Hombre 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack1997 Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Is this guy the real deal? From what I’ve seen he seems pretty committed to play for Canada and if he starts getting first team next season herdman would call him in immediately due to our lack of CB depth and the odds he even ever plays for France are little to none. but the importance of a solid top 5 league European CB to Canada in the future could be crucial so, could he be the man? Also when do we expect him to start getting first team minutes, next year, the year after that? Corazon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 Hard to tell. He apparently impressed and featured pre-season for Nice and looked poised to break through but wasn't given the opportunity all year. Good sign he has been in the squad and on the bench a bit but wasn't chosen for the last 15 games of the season. He did feature for the reserves though. Looking forward to seeing him in the U20 tournament. Big pre-season ahead for him after. johnyb, Shway, Corazon and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 I think we're all hoping that. He's still very young so it seems promising that he's apparently so close to Nice's first team. He needs to physically develop still, so if he's that close to breaking through while not even physically mature yet, I think that says a lot about his skill level, awareness, positioning, etc. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted May 24, 2022 Share Posted May 24, 2022 I'm not fully sure about the French system, but I think they should loan him out for minutes, like into Ligue 2, if they don't think he can get on the pitch for the first team. Anyone know how they tend to do it in France? dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 (edited) 19 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: I'm not fully sure about the French system, but I think they should loan him out for minutes, like into Ligue 2, if they don't think he can get on the pitch for the first team. Anyone know how they tend to do it in France? He seems to be stuck in that stage where he is almost good enough for the first team and thus they want to hold him as a bench player in case someone gets injured and they need an emergency sub. Better than that and he is in the mix for first team minutes. Worse than that and they loan him out because they know he isn’t even making the bench for the first team. At different times, both Jebbison and Corbeanu seemed to be in this sort of situation. It is a tough spot but considering his age and the quality of guys he is playing with, it isn’t intolerable over the short term. But hopefully he gets a more settled role(one way of the other) next season. Edited May 25, 2022 by dyslexic nam Corazon and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 31 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: He seems to be stuck in that stage where he is almost good enough for the first team and thus they want to hold him as a bench player in case someone gets injured and they need an emergency sub. Better than that and he is in the mix for first team minutes. Worse than that and they loan him out because they know he isn’t even making the bench for the first team. At different times, both Jebbison and Corbeanu seemed to be in this sort of situation. It is a tough spot but considering his age and the quality of guys he is playing with, it isn’t intolerable over the short term. But hopefully he gets a more settled role(one way of the other) next season. Unfortunately it usually takes one players injury for a bench player to get his big break on stage. If that injury doesn't come, you might not get that chance for a year or two, and those years are crucial to development. Davies, Tomori, and pretty much every pro made it this way. No coach i've ever seen pencils in a 19 year old with no pro experience as their forecasted starter at the beginning of a season. dyslexic nam, Corazon and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted May 25, 2022 Share Posted May 25, 2022 Played another full match with Nice II today. On 5/24/2022 at 2:01 PM, Unnamed Trialist said: I think they should loan him out for minutes He is young and may not need as much off-season rest. Perhaps a loan to an MLS side like Lyon did for ZBG. narduch, toontownman and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack1997 Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 Justin Smith to Qatar. aredding77, costarg, johnyb and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 12 minutes ago, Jack1997 said: Justin Smith to Qatar. Certainly one to watch for in the fall friendlies. Really impressive technique, calmness on the ball. Will see how he does in the next hopefully 3 (4,5 pretty please) games in this tournament. Might well put him alongside Fraser in the depth chart. Corazon, YorkRegionFan, johnyb and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 He can't be playing for Nice II next season; he has to play at a higher level. If he can't get minutes with the first team then he should be in Ligue 2 or MLS. An Observer, NVsoccer, Corazon and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 The question is he a CB or CDM? Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted June 21, 2022 Share Posted June 21, 2022 1 hour ago, SpecialK said: The question is he a CB or CDM? He is 100% a midfielder imo. Breaks through presses with dribbling and passing. His ability to dribble would be wasted at CB. Footyeh, Obinna, blueseeka and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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