General Discussion on CMNT

[Metro]

58 minutes ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said:

It was at least being done in the NHL and MLB in the very early eighties 

First video documented one:

I only know this because I have had this discussion with English fans who call it the Mexican wave, when I grew up calling it just the wave, obviously. 

I find it hard to believe any Mexican would copy anything a crazy Gringo would do. 😛

[Free kick]

The wave started in German soccer.  As i recall it

[Corazon]

Canadians in MLS - Week 7

Montreal beat fellow Canadian team Vancouver 2-1 this week, while Toronto beat MLS Leaders Philadelphia Union 2-1.

Of note, Jonathon Osorio put in another great performance including a great assist.  For the 2nd week in a row, Alistair Johnston provided a beautiful assist.  Toronto FC once again played 9 Canadians in their game this weekend and included a 1st MLS assist for Kadin Chung.  Although he did not get a shutout, Dayne St Clair put a fantastic performance in this weekend making 8 saves in his 3rd win of the season.

Canadian Player Minutes

Montreal - 2,577 minutes - 3,207 minutes including Goalkeeping

Toronto - 3,206 minutes

Vancouver - 1,730 minutes - 2,360 minutes including Goalkeeping

US MLS Teams - 1,659 minutes - 2,109 minutes including Goalkeeping

Stats provided by MLS.com.

Player	Team	POS	GP	GS	MP	G	A	P%	T	INT	Duel %
Raheem Edwards	Los Angeles	LW	7	7	630	0	5	81.5%	10	9	49.6%
Kamal Miller	Montreal	CB	7	7	621	0	1	81.8%	1	4	59.2%
Mark Anthony Kaye	Colorado	CM	7	7	587	2	0	81.8%	12	12	46.5%
Alistair Johnston	Montreal	RB	7	7	567	0	2	82.2%	6	6	58.2%
Jonathan Osorio	Toronto	CM	7	7	566	2	3	86.3%	6	7	56.6%
Russell Teibert	Vancouver	CM	7	7	557	0	0	80.6%	10	12	40.7%
Joel Waterman	Montreal	CB	6	6	540	0	0	86.8%	1	7	52.8%
Luca Petrasso	Toronto	RB	6	6	522	0	3	71.1%	2	6	49.2%
Ismael Kone	Montreal	CM	7	6	475	1	2	84.3%	1	3	60.5%
Lucas Cavallini	Vancouver	ST	6	4	417	1	0	74.0%	3	2	53.9%
Jacob Shaffelburg	Toronto	LW	5	5	386	0	2	71.6%	6	7	45.2%
Cristian Gutierrez	Vancouver	LB	6	3	348	0	0	88.1%	6	4	70.8%
Jayden Nelson	Toronto	RW	7	5	347	1	0	77.8%	3	4	64.7%
Lukas MacNaughton	Toronto	CB	6	4	336	0	0	78.2%	1	7	41.4%
Kadin Chung	Toronto	CM	5	3	299	0	1	85.7%	7	4	44.3%
Jahkeele Marshall-Rutty	Toronto	CM	4	3	197	0	0	87.9%	3	4	67.9%
Ryan Raposo	Vancouver	CM	6	2	197	1	0	75.3%	0	1	42.1%
Kosi Thompson	Toronto	CM	5	2	195	1	0	65.2%	4	4	60.6%
Tyler Pasher	Houston	ST	5	2	181	1	1	77.1%	2	0	40.0%
Tesho Akindele	Orlando	ST	7	1	158	0	0	73.3%	2	2	46.4%
Noble Okello	Toronto	CM	4	1	156	0	0	75.9%	3	2	79.0%
Deandre Kerr	Toronto	ST	3	1	123	0	0	84.2%	0	3	52.0%
Rida Zouhir	Montreal	CM	4	1	110	0	0	77.6%	0	0	42.9%
Doneil Henry	Los Angeles FC	CB	3	1	103	0	0	89.0%	0	1	50.0%
Michael Baldisimo	Vancouver	CM	3	1	99	0	0	80.3%	1	0	26.7%
Marcus Godinho	Vancouver	RB	3	1	96	0	0	85.7%	0	1	66.7%
Mathieu Choiniere	Montreal	CM	2	1	94	0	0	87.5%	3	0	66.7%
Zach Brault-Guillard	Montreal	RB	4	0	94	1	0	86.3%	1	1	27.3%
Zorhan Bassong	Montreal	LB	3	1	76	0	0	90.5%	0	0	50.0%
Ralph Priso-Mbongue	Toronto	CM	2	0	45	0	0	76.5%	5	1	54.5%
Jordan Peruzza	Toronto	ST	4	0	34	0	0	40.0%	0	0	42.9%
Tosaint Ricketts	Vancouver	ST	3	0	14	0	0	0.0%	0	0	0.0%
Emiliano Brienza	Vancouver	ST	1	0	2	0	0	83.3%	0	0	0.0%
Damiano Pecile	Vancouver (to Venezia)	CM
Derek Cornelious	Vancouver (to Panetolikos)	CB
Kamron Habibullah	Vancouver (to Pacific FC)	CM
Simon Colyn	Vancouver (to Jong PSV)	CM
Matteo Campagna	Vancouver	CM
Luke Singh	Toronto (to FC Edmonton)	CB
Ayo Akinola	Toronto	ST
Reshaun Wilkes	Toronto	ST
Adam Pearlman	Toronto	DF
Themi Antonoglou	Toronto	CM
Kobe Franklin	Toronto	RB
O'Vonte Mullings	New York	ST
Samuel Piette	Montreal	CM
Jean-Aniel Assi	Montreal	ST
Nathan-Dylan Saliba	Montreal	CM
Keesean Ferdinand	Montreal	CB
Karifa Yao	Montreal	CB
Tomas Giraldo	Montreal	CM
Sean Rea	Montreal	CM
Callum Montgomery	Minnesota	CB
Tani Oluwaseyi	Minnesota	ST
Player	Team	POS	GP	GS	MP	S	S %	P%	GA	GAA	Wins
Dayne St Clair	Minnesota	GK	5	5	450	23	85.2	53.2%	4	0.8	3
Maxime Crepeau	Los Angeles	GK	7	7	630	12	63.2	77.9%	7	1	5
Thomas Hasal	Vancouver	GK	7	7	630	23	62.2	51.6%	14	2	1
Sebastian Breza	Montreal (from Bologna)	GK	7	7	630	15	51.5	75.9%	17	2.29	3
James Pantemis	Montreal	GK
Greg Ranjitsingh	Toronto	GK
Isaac Boehmer	Vancouver	GK
Jonathan Sirois	Montreal	GK
Luka Gavran	Toronto	GK

Edited April 19, 2022 by Corazon

[narduch]

Famous fan

 

[CCrTFC]

14 minutes ago, narduch said:

Famous fan

 

If you want to listen to it he says it at the very end of this interview (-02:00). Even mentions the "Abruzzese" Victor Montagliani. 

https://www.raiplaysound.it/audio/2022/04/RADIO-ANCHIO-SPORT-30159ad5-d54d-4e9d-9fc2-4d878fe90157.html

[BearcatSA]

18 minutes ago, narduch said:

Famous fan

 

TSN should break the bank and get him as an analyst, having him skype in from overseas during the broadcasts.

[king1010]

We have our 2026 coach for when Herdman leaves for England. 

[dyslexic nam]

5 minutes ago, king1010 said:

We have our 2026 coach for when Herdman leaves for England. 

That wouldn’t be a bad succession plan.  

[Sal333]

7 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said:

That wouldn’t be a bad succession plan.  

Knowing Herdman after he hears that quote, he'll hire Ancelotti as an assistant.

On a side note. The Ancelotti quote is an indication we better expand our bandwagon. THis Canadaian team is becoming a darling of the football world.

Edited April 18, 2022 by Sal333

[Ally McCoist]

56 minutes ago, narduch said:

Famous fan

 

First Ronaldinho, now Ancelotti. Jeeeeeeeez

[RS]

15 minutes ago, Ally McCoist said:

First Ronaldinho, now Ancelotti. Jeeeeeeeez

Ancelotti was first. He's been seen at Whitecaps games over the years (his wife is from Vancouver IIRC).

[Free kick]

Kevin Moscoso (Gua) as the best GK in CONCACAF?   This has got to be a prank.  Never heard of him until now.

A lot of garbage picks in the rest of selections for Concacaf best IX (Fan picks)

 

2021 Concacaf Awards

Edited April 20, 2022 by Free kick

[shortofbrillant]

9 hours ago, Free kick said:

Kevin Moscoso (Gua) as the best GK in CONCACAF?   This has got to be a prank.  Never heard of him until now.

A lot of garbage picks in the rest of selections for Concacaf best IX (Fan picks

Larin wasn't even a nominee.

[A_Gagne]

1 hour ago, shortofbrillant said:

Larin wasn't even a nominee.

Leading WCQ goal scorer not nominated?

Now that is a joke.

[goleafs67]

The curtain has been pulled back... interesting look into how Campagna got involved as a training player and has stuck around. Some good quotes on the Herdman and the team

https://www.whitecapsfc.com/wfc2/news/the-greatest-honour-of-my-life-how-wfc2-defender-cristian-campagna-got-called-up

[Shway]

57 minutes ago, goleafs67 said:

The curtain has been pulled back... interesting look into how Campagna got involved as a training player and has stuck around. Some good quotes on the Herdman and the team

https://www.whitecapsfc.com/wfc2/news/the-greatest-honour-of-my-life-how-wfc2-defender-cristian-campagna-got-called-up

Some key quotes that a lot don't like to hear but must understand....

Quote

“Everybody is so tight in the group, you can talk to anybody and they’ll treat you like a brother but I look at people in similar positions to me, so you've got Steven Vitoria, Doneil Henry, Alistair Johnson, they're all guys that I look up to because we play in similar positions,” said Campagna, “But the whole team is amazing, they're all such a close group of friends and family.”

and...

Quote

“They're flexible, adaptable to anything, they have every scenario locked down and the preparation that they do is just amazing. It's crazy to see how much goes into it,” describes Campagna, “[Herdman]'s always motivating us, he's always giving the team speeches, he's showing them videos, he gets them ready, he even gets me ready. I'm in the pre-game meeting, I'm not going to play but I'm ready to run through a wall for him.”

It's the high level of respect that players have for Herdman. As a coach, that it the most important thing you can ask, and don't take for granted in jeopardizing that. 

It's worked to get us where we are today, and I don't see his method changing. 

[Dominic94]

So not Can related but looks like the US is going to lose Slonia to Poland which would be an insane coup and would send shockwaves through their association.

[Free kick]

There no shortage of American goal keepers.  Zac Steffen, Matt Turner, Bill Hamid,  Sean Johnson etc etc.  They could probably get Stefen Frey if they want to.   I heard good things about this kid, but clearly GK is not an area of need for the Americans.  
 

Americans have always produced an abundance of good Goalkeepers. From Brad Friedel, Tim Howard, Brad Guzan so on.

So i am not sure this would send shockwaves throughout their association

Edited April 20, 2022 by Free kick

[rkomar]

It's pretty ballsy of the kid to be playing for Poland because everyone there knows that "Słonina" means "lard" or "pig fat", while very few people in the USA know that.

[El Diego]

9 minutes ago, Free kick said:

There no shortage of American goal keepers.  Zac Steffen, Matt Turner, Bill Hamid,  Sean Johnson etc etc.  They could probably get Stefen Frey if they want to.   I heard good things about this kid, but clearly GK is not an area of need for the Americans.  
 

Americans have always produced an abundance of good Goalkeepers. From Brad Friedel, Tim Howard, Brad Guzan so on.

Steffen has stalled hard since his overseas move, Turner is good but 28 and who knows what's gonna happen with him with his new move, and the rest of the guys like Hamid, Johnson, etc. aren't good enough. Slonina is probably already past the Hamid/Johnson types on merit right now.

I don't think the USA has any goalkeeper prospect close to Slonina right now, but not many countries do. As people should be able to tell I am extremely high on this kid and if he chooses Poland not only will it be good for Canada, but it will be good for my other national team, too

[Floortom]

4 minutes ago, Free kick said:

There no shortage of American goal keepers.  Zac Steffen, Matt Turner, Bill Hamid,  Sean Johnson etc etc.  they could probably get Stefen Frey if they want to.   I heard good things about this kid, but clearly GK is not an area of need for the Americans. 
 

Americans have always produced an abundance of good Goalkeepers.

Slonina has world class potential and is already better than a few of those keepers IMO.  

He has a great chance at being the US #1 within a few years - I'm not sure if he surpasses Szczesny or Fabianski in that same time.

[El Diego]

3 minutes ago, Floortom said:

Slonina has world class potential and is already better than a few of those keepers IMO.  

He has a great chance at being the US #1 within a few years - I'm not sure if he surpasses Szczesny or Fabianski in that same time.

Fabianski is 37 and already retired from the NT. Szczesny is 32 and has had a bit of an up and down career with the NT, but he is a great keeper and somewhat underrated because he is a goof. He was recently fantastic against Sweden in the WC playoff and I wouldn't expect Slonina to challenge Szczesny, more like take over when he retires.

But Poland has other young keepers like Dragowski (mega talent and mega goof) and Majecki (very promising young player who stalled since his Monaco move). Like I mentioned above Poland has not had an issue with producing keepers over the past 20-25 years. While I think Slonina absolutely has the potential to be Poland's #1 for a while I would agree with the general sentiment that that path to the #1 spot is clearer (and quicker) with the USA.

[Free kick]

The US has been a bit of a recognized factory for producing quality keepers.   Legend has it that american kids develop strong hand eye coordination through playing sports like baseball and basketball in their youth.   This gives them a bit of a leg up on the rest of the word when playing this position.  Looking at all the americans that have played at the highest levels in Europe over the past twenty years and the position most frequently comes to mind is GK
 

By the way,  this kid was interviewed on Extra time radio a couple of weeks back.  Yes, he is apparently promising and he is proud of his Polish background.  Very smart and personable. But i also think that he also sees the pecking order ahead of him on the US team and Poland, and he is picking the side with the shortest queue

 

interview starts at 1:01:42

https://www.stitcher.com/show/extratime-radio-soccer-podcast/episode/why-hh-changes-everything-for-the-dynamo-plus-gaga-slonina-on-fire-europe-usmnt-200619181

Edited April 20, 2022 by Free kick

[Metro]

1 hour ago, Free kick said:

The US has been a bit of a recognized factory for producing quality keepers.   Legend has it that american kids develop strong hand eye coordination through playing sports like baseball and basketball in their youth.   This gives them a bit of a leg up on the rest of the word when playing this position.  Looking at all the americans that have played at the highest levels in Europe over the past twenty years and the position most frequently comes to mind is GK
 

By the way,  this kid was interviewed on Extra time radio a couple of weeks back.  Yes, he is apparently promising and he is proud of his Polish background.  Very smart and personable. But i also think that he also sees the pecking order ahead of him on the US team and Poland, and he is picking the side with the shortest queue

 

interview starts at 1:01:42

https://www.stitcher.com/show/extratime-radio-soccer-podcast/episode/why-hh-changes-everything-for-the-dynamo-plus-gaga-slonina-on-fire-europe-usmnt-200619181

I'm calling shenanigans on this one.  What sport requires faster reflexes than hockey?🙂

[dyslexic nam]

Damn. I wanted to sell my Slonina rookie to some American in a few years when he is overvalued.