Bertuzzi44 Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 Define "made money". I'm sure Steven Vitoria is doing fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 (edited) On 11/16/2022 at 11:45 AM, dyslexic nam said: This guys has been quietly and consistently playing very well for club and country. He has become a pretty huge part of our team. As an aside, it is interesting to go back and re-read the first page of this thread. Needless to say, I suspect some people have come around on him. I've been thinking about this a bit recently and after having read De Ro's book, it was easy at the time to complain about guys not committing but holy shit was the CSA so bad at making enticing environments for players to play in prior to Floro's tenure. Like representing your country is a great honour of course but between players getting told they'd lose their spot on the team if they repped Canada (which is wrong of course) and the often miserable experience it was actually being in camp with Canada I don't really blame guys too much for being hesitant to join the program. We were a big country operating like a Saint Lucia or Belize without the nice beaches. Edited November 20, 2022 by VinceA dyslexic nam and Kadenge 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 I think he was making 100k at Moreienese. That's pretty decent given he's near the end of his career. He's had a long career at a ton of modest clubs, his short spell at Benfica aside, so perhaps most of his contracts throughout the years were sub 500k per season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM3/MM2/MM Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 13 minutes ago, Obinna said: I think he was making 100k at Moreienese. That's pretty decent given he's near the end of his career. He's had a long career at a ton of modest clubs, his short spell at Benfica aside, so perhaps most of his contracts throughout the years were sub 500k per season. In 2015 with Philadelphia he was making $400,000.00 Obinna and johnyb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted November 20, 2022 Share Posted November 20, 2022 18 minutes ago, MM3/MM2/MM said: In 2015 with Philadelphia he was making $400,000.00 He was on loan there from Benfica. I wonder if that number was what the Portuguese giants were paying him. If so, perhaps that was his biggest contract. I doubt he had a contract sweeter than what Benfica paid him, especialy given that age-wise he was near the prime of his career at the time. The Real Marc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Bertuzzi44 said: Define "made money". I'm sure Steven Vitoria is doing fine He'll have to work when he quits football, I doubt he's making more than 200k a year, maybe less. And that is at his age. The Real Marc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 28 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: He'll have to work when he quits football, I doubt he's making more than 200k a year, maybe less. And that is at his age. Most professional footballers other than those who play significant portions of their careers in the Big 5 European leagues would have to work at some level after their playing careers are over, no? A player like SV will have to work, but will still have accumulated a decent little nest egg from his earnings as a player, if he's managed his money well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchryan11 Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 1 hour ago, SthMelbRed said: Most professional footballers other than those who play significant portions of their careers in the Big 5 European leagues would have to work at some level after their playing careers are over, no? A player like SV will have to work, but will still have accumulated a decent little nest egg from his earnings as a player, if he's managed his money well. Those guys wont be left without work. if you play at that level for as long as he has and your not a complete meathead in the locker room, he will work for soccer canada or some pro team if he wants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 23 minutes ago, Mitchryan11 said: Those guys wont be left without work. if you play at that level for as long as he has and your not a complete meathead in the locker room, he will work for soccer canada or some pro team if he wants Oh, there are definitely avenues for further employment for most former players, be that in coaching, media, public speaking, sports administration, or even going the age-old British way of opening a pub. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 hours ago, SthMelbRed said: Most professional footballers other than those who play significant portions of their careers in the Big 5 European leagues would have to work at some level after their playing careers are over, no? A player like SV will have to work, but will still have accumulated a decent little nest egg from his earnings as a player, if he's managed his money well. I supposed it depends on what lifestyle they would like to live, and what they've done with their money. A guy like Jonathan Osorio will have made more in his playing career (surely north of $5M US) than I will in my lifetime in a decent middle class job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 53 minutes ago, jonovision said: I supposed it depends on what lifestyle they would like to live, and what they've done with their money. A guy like Jonathan Osorio will have made more in his playing career (surely north of $5M US) than I will in my lifetime in a decent middle class job. Don’t forget the perks, like all you can eat shawarma. SthMelbRed and Olympique_de_Marseille 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 4 hours ago, SthMelbRed said: Most professional footballers other than those who play significant portions of their careers in the Big 5 European leagues would have to work at some level after their playing careers are over, no? A player like SV will have to work, but will still have accumulated a decent little nest egg from his earnings as a player, if he's managed his money well. Yeah, it's complicated. It's easy to project the Canadian experience with income to what the players are reported to be earning when that may not be applicable. Wages being reported net tax, exchange rates, that sort of stuff. That said, I have it in my head the median average wage in the Championship was around 300K pounds. That's serious clink. Maybe not the best example I'll admit, I'm sure 2nd tier in Belgium or Scotland or anywhere else for that matter isn't anywhere near that but still. Serious moolah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eramosat Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 3 hours ago, SthMelbRed said: Oh, there are definitely avenues for further employment for most former players, be that in coaching, media, public speaking, sports administration, or even going the age-old British way of opening a pub. now there's a legacy I would love to see from the next 2 WC's...a few Canada-focussed footie pubs owned by our faves! dyslexic nam and Fresh Prince of MTL 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 8 hours ago, eramosat said: now there's a legacy I would love to see from the next 2 WC's...a few Canada-focussed footie pubs owned by our faves! Junior Hoilett already has one in Brampton! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eramosat Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 6 hours ago, RS said: Junior Hoilett already has one in Brampton! don't keep it a secret! may be worth heading to for Croatia and Morocco for me, as Belgium plans are set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, eramosat said: don't keep it a secret! may be worth heading to for Croatia and Morocco for me, as Belgium plans are set. It's not a secret, he posts about it all the time and it has hosted V's watch parties during qualifying. Onyxx Sports Bar & Grill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eramosat Posted November 21, 2022 Share Posted November 21, 2022 24 minutes ago, RS said: It's not a secret, he posts about it all the time and it has hosted V's watch parties during qualifying. Onyxx Sports Bar & Grill. i appreciate the info! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 (edited) On 11/20/2022 at 11:40 PM, dyslexic nam said: Don’t forget the perks, like all you can eat shawarma. I believe that is only for Larin. ----- https://www.zerozero.pt/news.php?id=426413 Vitória is expected to play in the Portuguese League Cup match tomorrow against Porto. He will not face Eustáquio as he is still injured. Edited December 7, 2022 by Olympique_de_Marseille dyslexic nam, Corazon, narduch and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 (edited) Scored a penalty today for Chaves. Match still going on. Edited January 15, 2023 by narduch Corazon, Obinna, dyslexic nam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 1 hour ago, narduch said: Scored a penalty today for Chaves. Match still going on. Still cant understand why a veteran like Vitoria didn't step up to take the penalty vs Belgium in the WC. He has a great record on penalties in club footie footballfreak, Jack1997, narduch and 13 others 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfreak Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 20 minutes ago, Kadenge said: Still cant understand why a veteran like Vitoria didn't step up to take the penalty vs Belgium in the WC. He has a great record on penalties in club footie It really boggles the mind that a control freak like Herdman wouldn’t have a predetermined penalty taker. I think that’s something he needs to change moving forward. If you let the players decide for themselves, the loudest voice is going to win out instead of the best option. And what happens next time if David and Phonzy both want to take the next one? That’s not a situation you want in the middle of an important game. lamptern, Kent, ray and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 MOTM on Fotmob nolando, Corazon, lamptern and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markoaleks Posted January 15, 2023 Share Posted January 15, 2023 While in Qatar- was in a food court and shared a table with his family ( wife, kids, brother)- day after the Belgium game Said to the table then and still feel the same, that SV should have taken the penalty. Upthread there are several highlights on spot kicks or free kicks where he buries them too Herdman seems so prepared for everything ( huge PowerPoint's to prep players, lots of we "studied film" and while watching the Canada Soccer series in advance of Qatar- every detail was managed......everything had a plan ( like a clean sheet and 11 goals v Cayman Islands on a white board before that game) and yet - how does he let this important moment not have a plan ? dyslexic nam, lamptern, Corazon and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redpunkfiddle Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 3 hours ago, Markoaleks said: While in Qatar- was in a food court and shared a table with his family ( wife, kids, brother)- day after the Belgium game Said to the table then and still feel the same, that SV should have taken the penalty. Upthread there are several highlights on spot kicks or free kicks where he buries them too Herdman seems so prepared for everything ( huge PowerPoint's to prep players, lots of we "studied film" and while watching the Canada Soccer series in advance of Qatar- every detail was managed......everything had a plan ( like a clean sheet and 11 goals v Cayman Islands on a white board before that game) and yet - how does he let this important moment not have a plan ? There was a plan. The plan was for the players to decide. I’m sure Herdman’s meticulous control freak data driven brotherhood etc etc everything everyone mentioned led to his decision to leave it to players. Rightly or wrongly. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trc2014 Posted January 16, 2023 Share Posted January 16, 2023 The logic with the “players decide” strategy is you want someone who is feeling it and wants to step up and take the shot. Not saying I agree with it, but that’s what it is. An Observer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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