Greatest Cockney Rip Off Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, costarg said: Lots of coaches will be tempted by our gold generation. It’s an excellent opportunity. Salary might not be great but the potential acclaim would be infinite. Poor salary and no resources aren’t going to attract a good coach. I think we’ll end up worse off. Club Linesman, canadave and Floortom 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Colonel Green said: I mean, with his group of players you need a coach who can spur much of the team to perform above its actual talent level, if we want real results in 2026. Herdman was good at that, at least for a while. I don't think Canada under Herdman every played significantly above its talent level. Cheeta, Ivan, rightback and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 4 minutes ago, costarg said: Lots of coaches will be tempted by our gold generation. Its an excellent opportunity. Salary might not be great but the potential acclaim would be infinite. Salary will mean we get someone like BS from Forge. Not a bad solution. That or we convince Neville to take the reigns? It's logical he is the assistant to Biello at the moment, he just joined earlier in the year, but as far as name recognition goes Neville is ahead of Biello. Not sure name recognition matters though... johnyb and YorkRegionFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) I guess not bad for what amounts to a part time job but international managers actually don't make as much you might think https://sportsest.com/fifa-world-cup-national-team-coaches-salaries-2022/?expand_article=1 As an example it looks like a solid manager like Chris Hughton gets paid less to coach Ghana than Herdman got to coach Canada Depending on the direction Canada might save money and upgrade all at the same time Edited August 28, 2023 by SpursFlu johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finchster Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Probably a poor move for Herdman. I think his inspirational style is more suited for international football- a guy who can motivate a group of players for a short group of games together is probably more beneficial than a tactical genius in International football. NVsoccer, king1010, johnyb and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigandy Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ansem said: For me the US were ripped for the picking at the Nations League with the drama and everything going on down there but to let the interim coach soundly outcoach you was very very bad. Heck, all he had to do was watching the tapes on how Croatia and Morocco neutralized his cherished 3-5-2 and predictably, he didn't respect the US interim coach enough to make adjustments. We needed change because our 3-5-2 has been figured out since the the WCQ because we actually didn't look that great in the last few games during those either I agree with getting figured out, but I am not sure the issue is the 3-5-2. Or rather, regardelss of the formation we play, I think we would still run into the same challenges. We are a transition and speed based team. When teams sit with a low block, we have a terrible time trying to break them down. Say we go with a 4-3-3. We still have buchanan, laryea and davies speed all neutralized against a low block. David is great on transition too and he would still be isolated. Hoilett and an in form oso are really our best bet at trying to break open a low block. I think the biggest issue we have (against the low block) is that we need a creative link up man. Edited August 28, 2023 by Bigandy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colonel Green Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 5 minutes ago, jonovision said: I don't think Canada under Herdman every played significantly above its talent level. During the World Cup Qualifying we certainly did. johnyb and mpg_29 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I think I'd like to see a CPL manager or two step up another level and have success before I start considering any of them for the NT manager. jhoops__, phil03, RojitoTO and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, Colonel Green said: During the World Cup Qualifying we certainly did. Do you think Canada has (or had at the time) significantly less talent than USA and Mexico and Costa Rica? The Real Marc and costarg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Watchmen said: I think I'd like to see a CPL manager or two step up another level and have success before I start considering any of them for the NT manager. I would have like that too regarding a manager who never coached men but here we are... Cheeta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RojitoTO Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 hours ago, bwilly11 said: I really hope they just hand it to Neville and be done with it. I don't trust the CSA for a second to find a good outside replacement moving forward. I don't think Biello has much to offer, and it would be such a CSA move to go on the cheap and just run with him and drop the intern tile. All about the cheap.. If he coaches like his brother than no thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baxtefer Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 It's been a while, but any chance Jesse Marsch is still interested in the job? NVsoccer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJsens1 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 21 minutes ago, RojitoTO said: I love this answer. He's never coached international soccer and I'm sure it's something that he would like to try. Canada is an interesting project folks. I don't think this is so far fetched. I was joking, but with Herdman gone someone should get the Arfield thread going again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, baxtefer said: It's been a while, but any chance Jesse Marsch is still interested in the job? Not too shabby Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 2 minutes ago, baxtefer said: It's been a while, but any chance Jesse Marsch is still interested in the job? He could be. Based on the fact his agent was sort of cold with the statement about him not being named US coach, he could be interested to try his luck with us. I wouldn't hate Marsch as coach, but he would need to adapt to the international game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantic Posted August 28, 2023 Author Share Posted August 28, 2023 (edited) Marsch was likely on someone big salaries at Leipzig and Leeds, not sure he would take the incredibly reduced salary when he could get much more elsewhere in Europe Edited August 28, 2023 by Atlantic johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Marsch was making $3M+ at Leeds. I have to think he would only entertain the Canada job as an absolute worst case scenario where he has no other options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigandy Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 11 minutes ago, jonovision said: Do you think Canada has (or had at the time) significantly less talent than USA and Mexico and Costa Rica? Yes compared to the USA and Mexico. Our great claim to fame is davies and he was injured for the second half of the octo. Alot of our guys have developed alot since the start of WCQ but we far exceeded our xp goals for and against, with david our only player playing on a decent team at a decent level during most of WCQ (davies injury excludes him). johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RojitoTO Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 3 minutes ago, EJsens1 said: I was joking, but with Herdman gone someone should get the Arfield thread going again Hey, sometimes it's not about money. You get the best bargains when you recruit players/coaches when they're in the daybreak or twilight of their careers. In this case Arsene has made his money and maybe he'd like to have a unique coaching experience before he knows he can't coach anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP10 Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 I can’t see us having a lot of good options because no one wants to join the shit show that is the CSA. Where we only have 1 scheduled friendly in two windows TOcanadafan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacbru Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, Floortom said: Marsch was making $3M+ at Leeds. I have to think he would only entertain the Canada job as an absolute worst case scenario where he has no other options. This is where we thrive! Borjans Sweatpants, Cheeta, Kadenge and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Just now, Bigandy said: Yes compared to the USA and Mexico. Our great claim to fame is davies and he was injured for the second half of the octo. Alot of our guys have developed alot since the start of WCQ but we far exceeded our xp goals for and against, with david our only player playing on a decent team at a decent level during most of WCQ (davies injury excludes him). Exceeding your xG is a sign of luck as much as anything else. costarg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 Bobby Smryniotis would be an intetesting choice. A gamble for sure. If thats where we are looking we could do worse than tryint to get Nancy involved. Think he had his fill of boardroom politics at CF Montreal though. Ideally we bring in someone with experience and credibility. Not holding my breath on that. I can see Biello taking it for longer than we want. YorkRegionFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RojitoTO Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 29 minutes ago, costarg said: Lots of coaches will be tempted by our gold generation. Its an excellent opportunity. Salary might not be great but the potential acclaim would be infinite. 100%. This team can be a legitimate springboard for a coaches career. costarg and toontownman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted August 28, 2023 Share Posted August 28, 2023 1 minute ago, ADP10 said: I can’t see us having a lot of good options because no one wants to join the shit show that is the CSA. Where we only have 1 scheduled friendly in two windows All that said, the prospect of working with the young talent coming out of this country and the guaranteed world cup spot will be very attractive. It's going to come down to money as to how high the quality of the eventual hire is. That likely isn't positive for where the CSA is at. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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