Gian-Luca Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, trc2014 said: Can someone actually explain to me why Brym keeps getting minutes? Because he isn’t good enough to be getting hours. 😉 I would prefer Akindele get the waste-time minutes myself unless they really believe Brym is a major prospect for the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rydermike Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Cheeta, Cblake, Infernal and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 The commitment, heart and togetherness shown by these boys is wonderful to see. Every player is busting a gut, and nobody is ducking out of a challenge. The stars included. That said, I hope we stop giving up the first goal every game An Observer, Cblake and chalms04 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, trc2014 said: Can someone actually explain to me why Brym keeps getting minutes? Because that is how you acclimatize young players and help them develop to their full potential. Duh. h coach, nfitz, Cblake and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkomar Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said: VAR could also have decided that the ball was in fact out on the Davies goal and have called it back. Lucky, in that play, that the linesman was right on top of it, watch the play. He is very close, looking down on the ball, and waves it good immediately. You have to appreciate that was a call in our favour as it was near to out or in fact, out. I didn't think the ball was even close to being out. It looked to me like the middle of the ball was over the line the whole time, so I think the linesman had no trouble calling it in. For those who are unclear on it, the same rule applies to all lines on the field. The ball has to be entirely beyond the vertical plane on the outside of the line to be out of the area. If that was the goal line instead of the sideline, it would never have been called a goal. So, I don't think that VAR would have screwed us unless the official didn't know the rules. That said, the linesman could have screwed us on the call, so I guess we were lucky that he didn't. B_Leaf, h coach, ted and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Tone Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 43 minutes ago, Sal333 said: Was that Nichelle Prince passing her the ball.? Can't be. Only Huitema, Lawerance and new addition Labbe play for PSG. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rkomar Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 30 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said: Because he isn’t good enough to be getting hours. 😉 I would prefer Akindele get the waste-time minutes myself unless they really believe Brym is a major prospect for the future I'm guessing that they do consider Brym a future prospect. Herdman probably has 2026 in mind even during this cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 12 minutes ago, rkomar said: I didn't think the ball was even close to being out. It looked to me like the middle of the ball was over the line the whole time, so I think the linesman had no trouble calling it in. For those who are unclear on it, the same rule applies to all lines on the field. The ball has to be entirely beyond the vertical plane on the outside of the line to be out of the area. If that was the goal line instead of the sideline, it would never have been called a goal. So, I don't think that VAR would have screwed us unless the official didn't know the rules. That said, the linesman could have screwed us on the call, so I guess we were lucky that he didn't. That is always something that I see difference of opinion on. The pic below is the situation I hear debated all the time. According to my understanding of the rules, the ball is still in bounds because the whole of the ball has not crossed the invisible dotted line drawn upwards from the outside edge of the touch line. But many people think that if you can see green between the ball and the line (ie. if the part in contact with the ground has gone past the line) it is out. I think it is safe to say that Phonzie’s ball last night was in this situation. It hadn’t rolled completely past the line but you would probably have seen green between the bottom of the ball and the line if you were in the right position. In my experiences, these balls are often called out despite still being in according to the rules. Fortunately for us, they got it right last night. Cblake, Approve My Account Pls, johnyb and 10 others 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (And they say you can judge an artist by their ability to draw a circle…) Cheeta, johnyb, Miche and 10 others 4 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 10 hours ago, RS said: Which coach is that? Ok, Herdman has had three and a half years, we only started playing well and getting results above our level in the fourth. But are saying that is fair to harp about a coach who had mediocre results in a short time (Zambrano), and think that is comparable to someone who was allowed to be mediocre for much longer? I just assume you are using the standard you have for yourself. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Tone Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 31 minutes ago, Gian-Luca said: Because he isn’t good enough to be getting hours. 😉 I would prefer Akindele get the waste-time minutes myself unless they really believe Brym is a major prospect for the future It's fair to question whether Brym should be the player that came into the last few games in those dying moments of the game. I, like probably most on here, would've preferred to have seen Millar back out there. But we should also keep in mind what that role is, as basically the last forward coming in off the bench. I really don't think Brym sees the field in a scenario where we desperately need to score a goal. In that case I bet the lineup gets shuffled a bit and a more experienced player comes in. So when he's coming in, at that point his primary role is more or less to run his ass off and work for the team. Any added offensive production is a bonus. To a more casual observer it's a thankless role that will rarely get you many plaudits. But it's one that's certainly going to be noticed by all your teammates and coaches. It's also a role that not every player (particularly veterans) even wants to fill. So in my opinion it's a more nuanced conversation than simply saying "Why is he playing? Other players are better than him!" rkomar and Cblake 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trc2014 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Ok, Herdman has had three and a half years, we only started playing well and getting results above our level in the fourth. But are saying that is fair to harp about a coach who had mediocre results in a short time (Zambrano), and think that is comparable to someone who was allowed to be mediocre for much longer? I just assume you are using the standard you have for yourself. I think that people are discounting Zambrano because he has shown his true level of professionalism with his Twitter posts in the 3.5 years post dismissal. He needs to move on. footballfreak, Cblake, h coach and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 10 hours ago, ag futbol said: Not that we should consider ourselves a bunch of angles. I think we out CONCACAF’d them on the night. Parking Henry next to the corner flag as close as legally allowed was definitely on purpose. Rather enjoyed that. These teams are mentally fragile when you use their own dark arts against them. About 2 hours ago I had a laughing attack thinking about Henry. He was just there, like a statue, the guy backs into him, but when the other Panamanian goes over and pushes him he doesn't budge, he is rock solid. It was funny as shit. Of course the ref could have gone over and told him to move, and the initial incident could have seen a yellow to Henry and another to the pushy rival. johnyb and dyslexic nam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ag futbol Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 2 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Ok, Herdman has had three and a half years, we only started playing well and getting results above our level in the fourth. But are saying that is fair to harp about a coach who had mediocre results in a short time (Zambrano), and think that is comparable to someone who was allowed to be mediocre for much longer? I just assume you are using the standard you have for yourself. I thought Zambrano was okay. As far as our current manager goes, we can certainly get into his tactics a bit but there is no way around stating this silver tongued leprechaun successfully recruited a vast swath of our current player base. No understating that. BrennanFan, Free kick, jonovision and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 9 hours ago, dyslexic nam said: (And they say you can judge an artist by their ability to draw a circle…) Makes me think, if I there were an option, that we could all do locker room diagrams on our posts, would be fun. That was the legend of Giotto, by the way, he's a kid looking after sheep in the hills above Florence, and the painter Cimabue sees him drawing sheep with a rock in the dirt. And "discovers" him. Then, when he's more famous, when asked to bid for an art commission, they say he went to the client and drew a perfect circle, and got the job. It's all apocryphal, but charming stuff. Cblake and dyslexic nam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infernal Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I can't stop watching the goal. Cblake, ted, Xavier. and 9 others 11 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 50 minutes ago, Acid-Tone said: Can't be. Only Huitema, Lawerance and new addition Labbe play for PSG. That was Lawrence who, for my money, is one of the finest footballers in the world. Smart, talented, fast! B_Leaf, h coach and Cblake 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 28 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Ok, Herdman has had three and a half years, we only started playing well and getting results above our level in the fourth. But are saying that is fair to harp about a coach who had mediocre results in a short time (Zambrano), and think that is comparable to someone who was allowed to be mediocre for much longer? I just assume you are using the standard you have for yourself. Totally agree with your first point about judging Zambrano too harshly considering his short stint in the job, but calling Herdman mediocre seems equally unfair. Sure, he's not a tactical genius, but he's been very good in that arena--surprisingly good, most of us would agree--and has been excellent in several other areas. gator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Starting 11, if they are healthy for the match versus Costa Rica: Crepeau Johnston Vittoria Miller Tajon Osorio Eustaquio Laryea Davies David Larin -- Oso is a better option than Kaye at the moment. Might be controversial, but I agree with Kevin Kilbane when he says that Maxime is our #1 (and the best in MLS). I can understand wanting to start Atiba, but I feel that Richie brings a lot more creativity, and he is a pain-in-the-ass for the opposition. I'd even consider having Davies tuck in behind Larin and David, and give him some license to roam and cause havoc. Off the bench: Kaye, Hoillet, Atiba, Kennedy, Henry, Cava Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Not to self-promote my own thread, but lineup discussion for the next window could probably migrate to the new “window 3” thread. ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trc2014 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 minute ago, The Beaver 2.0 said: Starting 11, if they are healthy for the match versus Costa Rica: Crepeau Johnston Vittoria Miller Tajon Osorio Eustaquio Laryea Davies David Larin -- Oso is a better option than Kaye at the moment. Might be controversial, but I agree with Kevin Kilbane when he says that Maxime is our #1 (and the best in MLS). I can understand wanting to start Atiba, but I feel that Richie brings a lot more creativity, and he is a pain-in-the-ass for the opposition. I'd even consider having Davies tuck in behind Larin and David, and give him some license to roam and cause havoc. Off the bench: Kaye, Hoillet, Atiba, Kennedy, Henry, Cava JH is for sure giving it back to Milan, it’s his cycle. Cblake, B_Leaf, Corazon and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 45 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Ok, Herdman has had three and a half years, we only started playing well and getting results above our level in the fourth. But are saying that is fair to harp about a coach who had mediocre results in a short time (Zambrano), and think that is comparable to someone who was allowed to be mediocre for much longer? I just assume you are using the standard you have for yourself. Nah, I never even brought up Zambrano. I was just curious as to who coached for five years and did nothing in the first four. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sstackho Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 After the bad blood last night, it's probably a good thing that we don't play in Panama until the last match of the round. At the risk of getting ahead of ourselves here, we would need to keep in mind that red card suspensions do carry over into the World Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devioustrevor Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Why are people shitting on Brym. Granted I was in Section 120 last night, so opposite end from where we were attacking 2nd half, but Brym looked like he was Panama fits most of the times he had the ball. There was the run down the right side where he sent in that ball that Kaye was almost able to walk in. There was the moment he went 1-on-3 with Panamanian defenders and we came away with the ball. I was impressed with him last night. With no Cav and no Larin this window, we can't complain about his performances. Corazon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 25 minutes ago, trc2014 said: JH is for sure giving it back to Milan, it’s his cycle. If he is healthy. trc2014 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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