DigzTFC Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Here is ground zero or the Sinclair picture: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DigzTFC Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Herdman talks about the how bad he felt after the loss to Haiti in 2019 Gold Cup and how bad it was to send Atiba out that way..... Sal333 and nolando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, DigzTFC said: At times we can be quite cynical of the mental side of the game. I found this 2015 video after the Mexico game. Herdman is a legend in the making by his own design. Tell me this is not relevant to our turnaround. Thanks for posting this. I saw it years ago but it was great to hear it again. I hope people can see why players both on the men's and women's sides will run through a wall for him. Another thing, I still can't understand the "he's a used car salesman" tag. This man is the furthest thing from a used car salesman. Over the years he has been saying the same things over and over and his players both on the men's and women's sides confirm what he says. We should thank our lucky stars for getting him here. He's not the saviour of Canadian soccer but he is one of the best things that happened to Canadian soccer. apbsmith, costarg and Ruffian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gian-Luca Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Free kick said: 1987. Wasn't that the year that the match fixing scandal story broke? Yes, though I was thinking more along the lines that he just missed watching Canada in the World Cup & the start of our drought in that regard, with two major disappointments in 1988 (blowing the 2-0 first leg lead against the US in Olympic qualifying & then even worse, being upset on away goals in our 2-game WCQ S-F series against Guatemala). Forget about Gold Cup 2019 Q-F against Haiti, I'm still scarred by those two events! (I started following the team in 1980/81 but became a dedicated fan in 1985, so I guess my timing was a bit more fortunate) apbsmith, Ivan, The Real Marc and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vancanman Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Gian-Luca said: YIkes! In retrospect, what an awful year to start following the team. Yes, unfortunately. 2 hours ago, Free kick said: 1987. Wasn't that the year that the match fixing scandal story broke? I guess the Merlion Cup scandal was still in the news in '87, but it was also the year the CSL started. I started following the 86ers, and the national team by extension. There was a World Cup film (at The Ridge, for anyone from Vancouver) and they managed to mention Canada for about two seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, Gian-Luca said: Yes, though I was thinking more along the lines that he just missed watching Canada in the World Cup & the start of our drought in that regard, with two major disappointments in 1988 (blowing the 2-0 first leg lead against the US in Olympic qualifying & then even worse, being upset on away goals in our 2-game WCQ S-F series against Guatemala). Forget about Gold Cup 2019 Q-F against Haiti, I'm still scarred by those two events! (I started following the team in 1980/81 but became a dedicated fan in 1985, so I guess my timing was a bit more fortunate) That was never a penalty in the first leg, we were Concacafed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 6 hours ago, Sal333 said: Another thing, I still can't understand the "he's a used car salesman" tag. This man is the furthest thing from a used car salesman. Over the years he has been saying the same things over and over and his players both on the men's and women's sides confirm what he says. Agreed. A used car salesman doesn't believe in what he is saying. Herdman does and that belief is infectious. Obinna, Kent, apbsmith and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I understand the label of "salesman", but I see that as a good thing because he is obviously excellent at selling the program to the players, and getting them to buy in. That's where I see that description begin and end though. All the "used car salesman" shit just comes from the usual suspects of our support who either have personal vendettas or don't actually really know what they're talking about when it comes to the management of our program. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 As well as it all worked out, a memorable victory that puts top of the group, we were inches away from only getting a point and the draw feeling like a loss after being 2 goals up late on and although I think most of us would have taken a draw before kick off but that would have hurt! I would think JH is analyzing his subs and the last 10 minutes or so of the match, I was calling for Piette in the match thread and expected to see him, we were in a bit of trouble! dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, gator said: As well as it all worked out, a memorable victory that puts top of the group, we were inches away from only getting a point and the draw feeling like a loss after being 2 goals up late on and although I think most of us would have taken a draw before kick off but that would have hurt! I would think JH is analyzing his subs and the last 10 minutes or so of the match, I was calling for Piette in the match thread and expected to see him, we were in a bit of trouble! Perhaps I am wrong but I think Herdman subbed in Piette at the GC before Mexico scored the winner...if that is correct perhaps he wanted to go a different way to close out the game gator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 While I would have been fine with a Piette substitution, the issue late was that nobody had the legs to close out crossers in the last 10 minutes. Adekugbe played a great two matches but was clearly cooked, and Davies had also put in a shift. Osorio is a handy player but not quick or defensive minded enough for that task. Did we have anyone on the bench that could have done that job? Maybe Millar? An Observer, The Real Marc and gator 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 We had the game so controlled right up to the last 10 minutes or so then they were cutting through us like a hot knife through butter and they probably should have equalized, we did have some very tired legs and in the end we won the match! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 I can only imagine Herdman in Qatar when we qualify. Just seeing him in a good suit with a good tie on the sidelines looking like one of the best dressed managers at the World Cup. ted and longlugan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted November 19, 2021 Share Posted November 19, 2021 15 hours ago, jonovision said: While I would have been fine with a Piette substitution, the issue late was that nobody had the legs to close out crossers in the last 10 minutes. Adekugbe played a great two matches but was clearly cooked, and Davies had also put in a shift. Osorio is a handy player but not quick or defensive minded enough for that task. Did we have anyone on the bench that could have done that job? Maybe Millar? Perhaps we could have subbed in a 3rd CB like Cornelius to help with the crosses that Mexico were dropping into the box? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 My Facebook memories tell me that it's been 4 years to the day since John Herdman swapped the CWMT job for the CMNT job. Suffice it to say, it's certainly turned out to be brilliant for all concerned, no? Approve My Account Pls, costarg, Ivan and 16 others 18 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 Time flies when yer havin' fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 In a short time Bev Priestman accomplished far more than the Preacher did on all his years coaching our Women Team. dyslexic nam, JamboAl, ted and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 5 hours ago, The Ref said: In a short time Bev Priestman accomplished far more than the Preacher did on all his years coaching our Women Team. Jesus! Not this crap again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 10 hours ago, Sal333 said: Jesus! Not this crap again. At least with the Ref, he was the only one on this forum who truly despised the Preacher when he was leading the women and now the men. I believe off base in both instances but credit for his consistency and actually following the women's side. gator, ted and narduch 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 (edited) 30 minutes ago, red card said: At least with the Ref, he was the only one on this forum who truly despised the Preacher when he was leading the women and now the men. I believe off base in both instances but credit for his consistency and actually following the women's side. I - along with many on this forum - follow the women's side. It doesn't make The Ref special in any way. And there's nothing praiseworthy about consistency in of itself. For example someone can be a consistent philanderer but I doubt the mate will find it praiseworthy. Edited January 9, 2022 by Sal333 ted, SthMelbRed and Ivan 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 3 minutes ago, Sal333 said: I - along with many on this forum - follow the women's side. It doesn't make The Ref special in any way. And there's nothing praiseworthy about consistency in of itself. For example someone can be a consistent philanderer but I doubt the mate will find it praiseworthy. Not that many are engaged with women's team based on forum posts. More action elsewhere on the interwebs which can't be said for the men's side of this forum. The Ref is a Voyageur outlier as I would guess many of his 5.1k posts are about the women's teams. The rest of the Herdman haters only where triggered when he was appointed as the men's manager. And as noted by Herdman himself and by reading the first few pages of this thread, some of this hostility wasn't driven entirely by their views on football matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 1 hour ago, red card said: At least with the Ref, he was the only one on this forum who truly despised the Preacher when he was leading the women and now the men. I believe off base in both instances but credit for his consistency and actually following the women's side. Yes, he has been a consistent maroon in all his hate posts: CSA, Herdman, Labbe, puppies, kittens. God bless consistency! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Ref Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 3 hours ago, red card said: At least with the Ref, he was the only one on this forum who truly despised the Preacher when he was leading the women and now the men. I believe off base in both instances but credit for his consistency and actually following the women's side. True, but I have not criticized Herdman while leading the men's side. On the contrary, I said something like I will applaud Herdman if he qualifies us to Qatar. So far it looks he is doing a great job, far better than all previous coaches with the exception perhaps of Tony Waiters (RIP). GasPed and gator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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JAVIERF Posted January 28, 2022 Share Posted January 28, 2022 Jamaica is getting Concacafed again. The other day vs USA with a disallowed and today with the red and the crooked ref. They were 10 vs 12 Sal333 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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