Kadenge Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, yomurphy1 said: I still find it hilarious that that game versus England put Tomori on their radar. That's why he owes us one over Nigeria☺ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 6 hours ago, dyslexic nam said: I can't believe we are approaching 20 pages tracking every twitch of a guy who doesn't want to play for us. Yup, we luvs what we can't has!! (Not sure why I had to write that in broken English but it felt right). Brethers8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 At this point I consider Tomori an enormous bonus if he ever joined us. I think he’s firmly a front burner option for England but if it didn’t work out with them I would welcome him with open arms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Strait Red Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, baulderdash77 said: I think he’s firmly a front burner option for England but if it didn’t work out with them I would welcome him with open arms. I respectfully disagree, England has several choices at CB younger and a little older than Tomori. All are currently starting in the PL. Tomori is stuck in the Championship under contract to a PL club notorious for loaning out dozens of players. As long as he’s property of Chelsea, he’ll be stuck behind higher priced players without possibility of playing for the club. The longer he’s buried at Chelsea, the less chance he has of playing for England, which increases our chances of Herdman sweet talking him into returning to play for Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 58 minutes ago, Strait Red said: I respectfully disagree, England has several choices at CB younger and a little older than Tomori. All are currently starting in the PL. Tomori is stuck in the Championship under contract to a PL club notorious for loaning out dozens of players. As long as he’s property of Chelsea, he’ll be stuck behind higher priced players without possibility of playing for the club. The longer he’s buried at Chelsea, the less chance he has of playing for England, which increases our chances of Herdman sweet talking him into returning to play for Canada. I don’t think his odds are great if being called by England anytime soon - but Nigeria is also an option for him. Still a more difficult squad to get called to than Canada obviously, but I assume that would be his 2md option Strait Red 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBobsaget Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Calum Chambers has had 46 youth and 3 senior England caps as a 23 yo. He is no where near being called up to the England squad despite being a starter in the Premier League. Tomori is playing for the 6th place team in the Championship. There has to be 10 other younger CBs getting starts on better CP and EPL teams. shamrock and BCM 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 Gomez and Stones, when fit, will probably start every meaningful England match for the next 8-10 years, leaving very little for any other English CBs to scrap for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBobsaget Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 11 minutes ago, SthMelbRed said: Gomez and Stones, when fit, will probably start every meaningful England match for the next 8-10 years, leaving very little for any other English CBs to scrap for. And also Keane, Dunk, jones, Tarkowski in mid 20s with a few callups that are way above in the call up order. Tomori at the moment is 40th in line. Rob Holding is starting for Arsenal and he isnt in the England CB conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 3 hours ago, Floortom said: I don’t think his odds are great if being called by England anytime soon - but Nigeria is also an option for him. Still a more difficult squad to get called to than Canada obviously, but I assume that would be his 2md option Based on what? I mean it could be, but he hasn't spoken about it, has he? My guess is if he'd interested in England, why not Canada? He has played for us before (and not fr Nigeria). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 I think if Davies, Millar, Tabla, David, Larin, etc continue to develop and get some first team football, Tomori might notice Canada has a pretty bright future. Also Herdman should play up that CB is a position of need and Tomori could be a key component of the team. Everybody wins. (pun intended). johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 1 hour ago, Bertuzzi44 said: I think if Davies, Millar, Tabla, David, Larin, etc continue to develop and get some first team football, Tomori might notice Canada has a pretty bright future. Also Herdman should play up that CB is a position of need and Tomori could be a key component of the team. Everybody wins. (pun intended). Yeah that's is a good narrative. He can wait for years in hope of an England call, or just walk into the line-up of a contender in Concacaf. And it's basically a guaranteed World Cup for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 14 hours ago, shamrock said: Based on what? I mean it could be, but he hasn't spoken about it, has he? My guess is if he'd interested in England, why not Canada? He has played for us before (and not fr Nigeria). Based on the fact that Nigeria is a World Cup regular I suppose. I don’t think his choice will be much deeper than that. Also, I would think that his family’s Nigerian ties are much deeper than Canada’s but you’re right this is all guess work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMB Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I don't think he will ever play for england. I'm sure he will wait and see how his career pans out, but at some point I can see him coming back to Canada. I don't know much about his Nigerian connections or much about that national team, but one would think with a guaranteed WC during his prime years, on a team that is in desperate need of CB's, Canada would be his best option. That's my thinking at least. The guaranteed WC I think will turn a lot of dual nationals to us johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 22 hours ago, KMB said: I don't think he will ever play for england. I'm sure he will wait and see how his career pans out, but at some point I can see him coming back to Canada. I don't know much about his Nigerian connections or much about that national team, but one would think with a guaranteed WC during his prime years, on a team that is in desperate need of CB's, Canada would be his best option. That's my thinking at least. The guaranteed WC I think will turn a lot of dual nationals to us Only guaranteed if the kid can crack our line up when the WC comes to town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 6 hours ago, The Beaver said: Only guaranteed if the kid can crack our line up when the WC comes to town. Of course but that's more of a guarantee you'll ever get. RS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KMB Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 16 hours ago, The Beaver said: Only guaranteed if the kid can crack our line up when the WC comes to town. Best case scenario is that he will be no where near good enough to crack our team. 8 years is a long time. We may produce some world class talent for our back line before then. At least we can dream deschamp86, The Beaver and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 He's been in England since an infant so he may very well feel a stronger connection to England than Canada. However, with Tomori for England & even Eustaquio for Portugal, they both have a chance to play in one of the largest tournaments in the world for the U21 Euro next year. Another thing to consider for these players is that the U21 Euro tournament can be a great career move as it is a heavily scouted tournament. I couldn't imagine either of them giving the opportunity up, especially to play for Canada in Nations Qualifier games. SirBobsaget 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBobsaget Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Corazon said: He's been in England since an infant so he may very well feel a stronger connection to England than Canada. However, with Tomori for England & even Eustaquio for Portugal, they both have a chance to play in one of the largest tournaments in the world for the U21 Euro next year. Another thing to consider for these players is that the U21 Euro tournament can be a great career move as it is a heavily scouted tournament. I couldn't imagine either of them giving the opportunity up, especially to play for Canada in Nations Qualifier games. Completely reasonable. The exposure playing Euro youth tournaments far exceeds anything except Gold Cup or Hex for Canada. For their careers it makes sense to stay with their Euro nations. But hopefully for us and unfortunately for them the Senior options don't materialize and Canada becomes the pathway to WC glory! Corazon and romurra 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 44 minutes ago, SirBobsaget said: Completely reasonable. The exposure playing Euro youth tournaments far exceeds anything except Gold Cup or Hex for Canada. For their careers it makes sense to stay with their Euro nations. But hopefully for us and unfortunately for them the Senior options don't materialize and Canada becomes the pathway to WC glory! With Fikayo, he is quite far down the pecking order for the England senior national team with many young defenders in the fold likely for a long time, so heres hoping he comes back to Canada! Same goes for Eustaquio who would have to compete with a a good young core of Portuguese midfielders on the senior team. Ricardo Feirreira (if healthy) on the other hand may be hoping his opportunity with Portugal is near with many strong center backs out of the picture in the near future; Fonte (34), Pepe (35), Bruno Alves (36) & Rolando (33). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Namaste Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Tomori scored a beautiful goal yesterday against Norwich City. His goal is at 23s. nolando and toontownman 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Then the next goal was scored by a guy he left all alone in front. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 @Kent He was actually goal side of his man... To say he left him all alone is false. He just didn't deal with the crossed ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 On 12/31/2018 at 12:23 PM, Jahinho Guerro said: @Kent He was actually goal side of his man... To say he left him all alone is false. He just didn't deal with the crossed ball. He gave his man 5 meters of space very close to goal. Didn’t come close to intercepting the pass or challenging his shot. I count that as leaving him alone. Grizzly and BenFisk'sBiggestFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 No Tomori on England squad for the Euro Qualifiers... He's unlikely to be called for the Euro at this rate Looks like he's getting closer to Canada Yoginess, SpecialK, johnyb and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 4 minutes ago, Ansem said: No Tomori on England squad for the Euro Qualifiers... He's unlikely to be called for the Euro at this rate Looks like he's getting closer to Canada Oh God I hope so!!! Ferreira and Tomori is what we need to take us to the top of CONCACF. Even if Ferreira is injury prone hamiltonfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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