Obinna Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 21 minutes ago, SpecialK said: Oh God I hope so!!! Ferreira and Tomori is what we need to take us to the top of CONCACF. Even if Ferreira is injury prone If both were fully committed, I would love us to take them in, but I really have my doubts about Ferreira. He's not exactly young anymore at 26, going on 27. He's not playing regularly for Braga. Once upon a time I thought he could be the cornerstone of our backline, but he's more likely to be a Vitoria at this point. Again, I wouldn't turn him away, depth is good, but I no longer consider him a game changer. Tomori? Maybe he forces his way into the line up ahead of Henry, but Ferreira may be a pherephrial player, strange as that sounds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 I'm not sure Fereira will ever be the player he was with all of his recent injuries but at this point we could use him. Tomori will not be a part of England's squad probably for years or even at all. Unless his growth skyrockets in the coming years, there are just too many quality young center backs in England right now. He is currently playing with the England U21s this international break. Started the friendly a few days ago as well. He's done very well this year for Derby in the Championship and appears to be a potential starting center back this summer for England u21s. This tournament could lead to a contract with a new team (assuming Chelsea let him leave). Come July, I am hoping for a quick switch over the Canada but he may wish to sit on the fence for some time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 3 hours ago, Ansem said: No Tomori on England squad for the Euro Qualifiers... He's unlikely to be called for the Euro at this rate Looks like he's getting closer to Canada I figured you were talking about the Senior National Team, well Duh he's a starting CB in the Championship; not even in the radar by being in the Premier League yet Don't get you hopes up just yet, he's not getting closer to Canada! Let's not speculate here He was named to their friendlies vs Poland and Germany ahead of U21 Euros in June Thus is the second last camp for them before the official tournament Once that and the Gold Cup is finished this summer, then its decision time, since there is no Team Great Britain at the 2020 Olympics in Tokyo even if they were to qualify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmacdo Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Obinna said: If both were fully committed, I would love us to take them in, but I really have my doubts about Ferreira. He's not exactly young anymore at 26, going on 27. He's not playing regularly for Braga. Once upon a time I thought he could be the cornerstone of our backline, but he's more likely to be a Vitoria at this point. Again, I wouldn't turn him away, depth is good, but I no longer consider him a game changer. Tomori? Maybe he forces his way into the line up ahead of Henry, but Ferreira may be a pherephrial player, strange as that sounds... At 26 hes got a lot of years ahead of him for a CB as long as his knee heals up ok. Maybe a move to MLS or a lower league but still good enough for the national team would benefit him when hes on his comeback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince193 Posted March 25, 2019 Share Posted March 25, 2019 29 minutes ago, Mikmacdo said: At 26 hes got a lot of years ahead of him for a CB as long as his knee heals up ok. Maybe a move to MLS or a lower league but still good enough for the national team would benefit him when hes on his comeback. I personally don't see him coming back. His situation reminds me of Stu Holden who rehabbed for so long then came back and in hist first game re-tore his knee. I think Ferreira is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/england-u21-vs-germany-u21-score-prediction-team-lineups-odds-live-stream-and-tv-a4100376.html Yeah he is still likely a focal point of the England 21 defence for tmrws game and the summer. He is also still unlikely to break through for England barring coming back after the derby loan to start for Chelsea. There are almost 8 or 9 ahead of him. Come September we have a great chance of getting him imo. Fingers crossed. We wont know at least until then imo. Blackjack15 and Corazon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villus Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, toontownman said: https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/england-u21-vs-germany-u21-score-prediction-team-lineups-odds-live-stream-and-tv-a4100376.html Yeah he is still likely a focal point of the England 21 defence for tmrws game and the summer. He is also still unlikely to break through for England barring coming back after the derby loan to start for Chelsea. There are almost 8 or 9 ahead of him. Come September we have a great chance of getting him imo. Fingers crossed. We wont know at least until then imo. Yeah he's a really big underdog to make it into the England senior squad going forward. There are a lot of really good English players being developed right now as well as a bunch of players in their mid-early twenties already far ahead of him. Barring a huge jump in development its hard to see, hopefully he comes into the fold for us. Edited March 26, 2019 by villus toontownman and JuicyHam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopePouri Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) I'll hype him a bit more and say he has a decent chance of making the England squad someday. He put in a MOTM performance in his last match with the u21s and derby fans seems to like him a lot, as in "best young defender in Europe" a lot. https://talksport.com/football/fa-cup/476021/fans-chelsea-fikayo-tomori-derby-county-southampton/ He may not displace John Stones or Joe Gomez but it's easy to be in the conversation with the James Tarkowski, Michael Keane and the Lewis Dunk's of the player pool. Their CB pool isn't that great actually. Next season will be important for his development. He's needs to make the jump and it'll be interesting what Chelsea does because of their transfer ban. Edited March 26, 2019 by PopePouri Brethers8 and Shway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KW519 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Maguire and Keane is Southgates first choice pairing. Then you have Stones Gomez Jones (when healthy) Tarkowski Dunk Lacelles Holding Chambers plus Dier who can play CB. Tomori will need to leave Chelsea or break into the squad for him to be in consideration Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmacdo Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 2 hours ago, KW519 said: Maguire and Keane is Southgates first choice pairing. Then you have Stones Gomez Jones (when healthy) Tarkowski Dunk Lacelles Holding Chambers plus Dier who can play CB. Tomori will need to leave Chelsea or break into the squad for him to be in consideration Joe gomez is the best English cb when healthy. villus, Brethers8 and Strait Red 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkuseisLoose Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 21 minutes ago, Mikmacdo said: Joe gomez is the best English cb when healthy. No he’s not Maguire and keane are considerably better than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 As we all know, alot can change in a year within football. Lets be honest. He's not going to play at Chelsea, regardless of their impending transfer ban. They currently have Rudiger, Azipicueleta, Christensen...then vets in Luiz, Cahill... Then the loan Rangers in Kurt Zouma, Jake Clarke-Salter, Michael Hector, Matt Miazga,... List goes on. He'll need a transfer to some PL team and play to get considered for the ENT. Just look at someone like Jack Grealish. KW519 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmacdo Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Just now, SkuseisLoose said: No he’s not Maguire and keane are considerably better than him. Gomez and van dyke starting together gave up like one goal this year. I'd start Gomez and stones, there's a reason they play on the best two teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 9 minutes ago, SkuseisLoose said: No he’s not Maguire and keane are considerably better than him. All due respect to the badge you display on your profile, but there's not a single thing in football that Joe Gomez doesn't do better than Maguire, other than stay healthy, of course. If Man Utd offer anything like the fees that were mooted for Maguire last summer for him this summer, Leicester would be stupid not to take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkuseisLoose Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 59 minutes ago, SthMelbRed said: All due respect to the badge you display on your profile, but there's not a single thing in football that Joe Gomez doesn't do better than Maguire, other than stay healthy, of course. If Man Utd offer anything like the fees that were mooted for Maguire last summer for him this summer, Leicester would be stupid not to take it. I think Gomez is better on the ball than maguire but he is in no way a better defender than him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 21 hours ago, Blackjack15 said: Let's not speculate here That's LITERALLY all we do here. Edited March 26, 2019 by Califax Soccerpro, BuzzAndSting, Zem and 6 others 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norrin Radd Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Couple of articles on Tomori. https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/inside-track-fikayo-tomoris-future-2680628 https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/richard-keogh-assesses-fikayo-tomori-2677017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikmacdo Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 3 hours ago, SkuseisLoose said: I think Gomez is better on the ball than maguire but he is in no way a better defender than him. No he’s definitely a better defender. Longer, more mobile. McGuire is better at set pieces that’s it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yoginess Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Is Gomez eligible for a CMNT call up? Obinna, Ruffian, Pottsy3 and 4 others 1 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Califax said: That's LITERALLY all we do here. There is a lot of speculation, but just for a change of pace, here are his England U-21 results since I last posted about them: September 2018:Not in the squad for a nil-nil draw vs the Netherlandshttp://www.uefa.com/under21/season=2019/matches/round=2000803/match=2022368/index.html Played a full game for a 2-1 vs Latviahttp://www.uefa.com/under21/season=2019/matches/round=2000803/match=2022381/index.html October 2018:No in the squad for the 7-0 win against Andorrahttp://www.uefa.com/under21/season=2019/matches/round=2000803/match=2022358/index.html Played a full game for the 2-0 win against Scotlandhttp://www.uefa.com/under21/season=2019/matches/round=2000803/match=2022380/index.html November 2018:Played a full game as England beat Italy 2-1http://www.thefa.com/news/2018/nov/15/england-u21s-italy-report-151118 Came on in the 71st minute as England beat Denmark 5-1http://www.thefa.com/news/2018/nov/20/england-u21s-denmark-report-201118 March 2019:Played a full game in a 1-1 draw against Polandhttp://www.thefa.com/news/2019/mar/21/england-u21s-poland-report-210319 and finally earlier today, did not play in a 1-2 deafeat to Germanyhttp://www.thefa.com/news/2019/mar/26/england-u21s-germany-report-260319 For more perspective, It looks like whatever the U21 results this summer, there will not be a "Team GB" at Tokyo 2020. Only on the women's side:http://www.bbc.com/sport/olympics/47532721 If he wants to go to the Olympics, it's Nigeria or us. Nigeria will likely qualify during thehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Africa_U-23_Cup_of_Nations in November. They just beat Libya at home after losing the first leg. Next up is Sudan in June.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Africa_U-23_Cup_of_Nations_qualification Our qualification will be in October. Let us see what Tomori does on July 1st (Canada Day!) the day after the final game of the UEFA U-21 EUROS. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_UEFA_European_Under-21_Championship Edited March 26, 2019 by Olympique_de_Marseille Blackjack15, Jith12, Ansem and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Let us see what Tomori does on July 1st (Canada Day!) the day after the final game of the UEFA U-21 EUROS. Well he will be preparing for the gold cup semi finals the next day with the rest of the Canada squad, silly. Olympique_de_Marseille and dyslexic nam 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Yeah man he can be a starter in the Gold Cup in what is arguably the best CMNT ever! And then work towards two potential World Cups. That beats any youth team option IMO. Northvansteve, MtlMario, Blackjack15 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villus Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) On 3/26/2019 at 9:17 AM, Mikmacdo said: Gomez and van dyke starting together gave up like one goal this year. I'd start Gomez and stones, there's a reason they play on the best two teams. Stones starts when he's healthy and Gomez is the best talent in their CB pool, he does everything really well. Maguire is good, and he might start over Gomez for a little while but Gomez has a chance at being really, really good. Gomez has everything for a modern CB. In terms of Tomori, if he wanted to break into Enlgland he needs to leave Chelsea, Zouma is ahead of him and has been out on loan for a few years, Christensen is barely getting games as well. Even then he's a big underdog to do it and if he does he's very likely to be a part time call up. Edited March 29, 2019 by villus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 I watched him at home today vs QPR, a very tidy match, he passed the ball really well out of the back and defended well when he had to, he's just what we need to pair with Henry, I imagine he's holding out hope for England but I don't see that given their depth! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted April 22, 2019 Share Posted April 22, 2019 2 hours ago, gator said: I imagine he's holding out hope for England but I don't see that given their depth! The 23-man squads for the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_UEFA_European_Under-21_Championship are due on June 6th. He will likely be included. I assume England will bring a younger group to Toulon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_Toulon_Tournament Blackjack15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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