Ansem Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 10 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: ...sure everybody aspires to more when looking at it in best case scenario fantasy mode but it might be the sort of model that is actually sustainable for the forseeable future and that is relatively straightforward to expand. If FCE folds by the end of the year, CanPL will only be another franchise folding away from a major existential crisis. Having some sort of stable league that can grow organically later is better than the 1992 CSL scenario and its aftermath all over again. Cheeta 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) 10 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Something to bear in mind is that a combatorial CanPL vs MLS mindset was how people inside the CSA bubble and associated with CanPL viewed things when the league was being organized and launched so the various hangers on and sycophants picked up on that vibe in a big way as well. A CEBL approach isn't D1 enough for a lot of people to keep the whole CanPL vs MLS thing going so doesn't go down well with some. 10 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: A CEBL approach isn't D1 enough for a lot of people to keep the whole CanPL vs MLS thing going so doesn't go down well with some. 10 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: "But where are the Canadian players?" was the question Bob Young & Co were asking around 2018 or so. On the roster for the Bahrain game is the answer in late 2022 and three of them spent some time in CanPL so having both leagues complements each other and helps add greater depth to the CMNT player pool. So status quo did yield results? 10 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: It's more difficult to sell the three MLS academy systems as worth the time and effort for the players involved if all that's available at the end of it is a very limited number of MLS roster spots. CanPL can more readily adopt a Brentford approach because they exist. No reason why the two leagues can't wind up with a symbiotic relationship in other words beyond what's going on in some people's heads. What's wrong with MLS clubs "loaning" players to CPL? For a guy who "denounce" nationalism and MSL vs CanPL comments - you're the one doing most of it through your views. Symbiotic means "MUTUAL BENEFICIAL" - you're just lamenting that CPL didn't know its place and take the MLS academies and not relegating itself as a "bus league" feeding the 3 MLS clubs making it virtually impossible for it to thrive to its full potential. This elitist bullshit that outside of the 3 main markets (save hockey) - the rest of the country (where over 2/3 resides) doesn't matter and shouldn't aspire to what the 3 have to some extend. Edited November 10, 2022 by Ansem Tigers, CDNFootballer and ted 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stanley Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 19 hours ago, SpursFlu said: CEBL? I think its pretty cool I like Canadians. I like Basketball. I like Canadians playing Basketball in Canada It's got some silly rules and too few games per year for a basketball league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 4 hours ago, Kent said: Out of context (I haven't paid attention to him since he became more podcast focused instead of writing articles) it looks like an honest question rather than actual shade being thrown. I'm not sure exactly what the question is though. This was my reaction as well. It's probably the fairest comparison - new, Canadian leagues that started at the same time, have bigger leagues to compete with attention, going about things in different ways. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 (edited) More money coming into the league Vancouver FC will be sponsored by CIBC (front sponsor)! CIBC will be the sleeve sponsor for all clubs! Edited November 10, 2022 by Ansem Ftduck, Kent, aredding77 and 6 others 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K Edgar Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 https://cibc.mediaroom.com/2022-11-10-CIBC-Signs-Multi-Year-Sponsorship-Agreement-with-Canada-Soccer-Canadian-Premier-League aredding77 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-g-williams Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 https://canpl.ca/article/canadian-premier-league-canada-soccer-sign-multi-year-sponsorship-agreement-with-cibc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingston Posted November 10, 2022 Share Posted November 10, 2022 5 hours ago, Ivan said: Also, why Rollins brings up the positive in expansion to Winnipeg, he leaves out the negative that the Guelph team folded IIRC? Guelph moved to Calgary. Ivan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 So rough math tells me that through expansion and the cap increase CPL will be collectively spending $2,500,000 MORE on player salaries in 2023. That's best case scenario of course. Also depends on Edmonton staying afloat, but still. Damn. Not bad, eh? MM3/MM2/MM, Shway, johnyb and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) I wish instead of franchise fees this league had a stadium entry "fee" (ie new 5000 seat soccer specific stadium) . I think that would make all the difference. Edited November 11, 2022 by mpg_29 SoccMan and toontownman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Bright spot of today's game, two CPL alumni making their national team debuts. Further proof that the league is doing good things for the game in this country. johnyb, narduch, NVsoccer and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottsy3 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 2 hours ago, shermanator said: Bright spot of today's game, two CPL alumni making their national team debuts. Further proof that the league is doing good things for the game in this country. In this case too, two collegiate players who likely would not have sniffed professional football if not for the CPL. Aird25, toontownman, Cheeta and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yothat2 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Cebl folding it's first franchise https://www.tsn.ca/nba/canadian-elite-basketball-league-folds-its-franchise-in-newfoundland-1.1876667 Trying to bury the news on remeberance day johnyb, Ivan and narduch 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yothat2 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/395625/Canadian-Premier-League-has-made-official-pitch-for-Kelowna-franchise-and-downtown-stadium Kent, toontownman, NVsoccer and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 20 minutes ago, yothat2 said: https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/395625/Canadian-Premier-League-has-made-official-pitch-for-Kelowna-franchise-and-downtown-stadium Friend is involved in Kelowna too? Pottsy3 and NVsoccer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pottsy3 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, yothat2 said: https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/395625/Canadian-Premier-League-has-made-official-pitch-for-Kelowna-franchise-and-downtown-stadium Kelowna makes a lot of sense just in the fact that it is sandwiched in between the Alberta teams, and the coastal BC teams. More teams will make the league more feasible from a travel perspective. The Kelowna Rockets have the highest attendance amongst BC-based WHL teams averaging about 4000 spectators a game. Pre-covid those numbers were closer to 5000 attendees. The market seems to be big enough if they can nail down an appropriate location. Edited November 11, 2022 by Pottsy3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mihairokov Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 52 minutes ago, Pottsy3 said: Kelowna makes a lot of sense just in the fact that it is sandwiched in between the Alberta teams, and the coastal BC teams. Kelowna makes sense because it's a fast-growing market and underserved by professional teams. The faster CPL can get into more places like Halifax and Kelowna the better it'll serve them in the future. It's why places like KWC or London would also be desirable. Fast-growing metros eager to support professional level sport. Kelowna isn't exactly a bus trip for teams - they'll still be flying around. Might make away days more feasible for the AB team(s), though, which should be better in that aspect. Edited November 11, 2022 by Mihairokov johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 3 hours ago, narduch said: Friend is involved in Kelowna too? It doesn't sound like he's involved. Just a discussion with him and him saying he thinks it's a good location. No ownership in place, just the league pushing them for a stadium. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 15 hours ago, Pottsy3 said: Kelowna makes a lot of sense just in the fact that it is sandwiched in between the Alberta teams, and the coastal BC teams. More teams will make the league more feasible from a travel perspective. The Kelowna Rockets have the highest attendance amongst BC-based WHL teams averaging about 4000 spectators a game. Pre-covid those numbers were closer to 5000 attendees. The market seems to be big enough if they can nail down an appropriate location. Those are very impressive numbers if you factor in how many home games they play . I’m assuming they must play like what 30 or more home games ? That’s a lot of home games to try and get people out to and they come out looking at those numbers . I know it’s hockey and this is Canada but looking at the CPL you have what 12 home games to sell more or less , so much less games to try and get people to come out too, looking at it this way you can see there might be promise that a CPL team can work there , looks like the population is there that can at least come out to the 12 or so home dates that they play. Moreover, that’s why I think the CPL should look at cities that do well with attendance in Junior hockey to see where possible future expansion teams can go. In Ontario London, Windsor and the Kitchener area are places I think might be able to work out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM3/MM2/MM Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 16 hours ago, yothat2 said: https://www.castanet.net/news/Kelowna/395625/Canadian-Premier-League-has-made-official-pitch-for-Kelowna-franchise-and-downtown-stadium Wow, soccer and wine, hope @El Hombreis in for a road trip😎 johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 13 hours ago, Watchmen said: It doesn't sound like he's involved. Just a discussion with him and him saying he thinks it's a good location. No ownership in place, just the league pushing them for a stadium. Have seen it claimed that Dean Shillington has the territorial rights to all of BC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 3 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Have seen it claimed that Dean Shillington has the territorial rights to all of BC. That has been the rumour. But Friend's comments don't sound like it's them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Friend was raised in Kelowna and I believe went to high school there before going to NCAA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 20 hours ago, Pottsy3 said: Kelowna makes a lot of sense just in the fact that it is sandwiched in between the Alberta teams, and the coastal BC teams. More teams will make the league more feasible from a travel perspective. The Kelowna Rockets have the highest attendance amongst BC-based WHL teams averaging about 4000 spectators a game. Pre-covid those numbers were closer to 5000 attendees. The market seems to be big enough if they can nail down an appropriate location. The location they're proposing ticks wvery imaginable box. Sorry public transit lovers no skytrain 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Watchmen said: That has been the rumour. But Friend's comments don't sound like it's them. I thought the rumour online was that it was Alberta investors. Hypothetically 😉 Edited November 12, 2022 by toontownman Backtracked even though I'm sure it was everywhere online. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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