Obinna Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Meh. They needed the result and had to keep Laryea on. I am alright with that. Rutty is just 18 years old. We cry foul that Laryea didn't play more at Forest. Now he comes in to play and we complain it's blocking Rutty's development. We are a tough lot to please, aren't we? 😄 rkomar and Corazon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 I personally would like to see Rutty relieve Nelson though, instead of Kerr, who's having a good season to be fair. I just want to see him get some reps there before the season is out. Can't hurt. Dominic94, gator, Corazon and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 At this point, it’d probably be best for him to take the jump to Europe. TFC will just hold him back at this point with no regular playing time the rest of this year or in the foreseeable future. narduch, dyslexic nam, costarg and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 3 minutes ago, TOcanadafan said: At this point, it’d probably be best for him to take the jump to Europe. TFC will just hold him back at this point with no regular playing time the rest of this year or in the foreseeable future. I mostly agree with this, if the reported interest in Europe is accurate he should take the jump as he strikes me as a player who has the potential to be very good in the right situation, remember he is very young! I can't really fault TFC for not playing him a lot right now as they are in a life and death battle for the play offs and earlier in the season before the Italians arrived he was out with injuries! TOcanadafan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 3 hours ago, TOcanadafan said: At this point, it’d probably be best for him to take the jump to Europe. TFC will just hold him back at this point with no regular playing time the rest of this year or in the foreseeable future. Or a loan would work. I suspect Laryea will be gone next season and the position will be his again. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 6 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said: Or a loan would work. I suspect Laryea will be gone next season and the position will be his again. Heard this one before, never really works out that way with TFC. Let him go or he'll end up like all the others that lacked development these crucial years. Its enough. Kadenge, gator, TOcanadafan and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 dyslexic nam, johnyb, canuckgbp and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Nice to see he's still seen as a big talent despite a difficult season. I've tempered my expectations on him for now though. Pottsy3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 The injury didn’t help. Definitely derailed him and hasn’t quite looked the same (then the reinforcements came and now difficult to get game time). Brugge is probably a better place to develop then an EPL academy where you can get lost in the shuffle. Brugge want to showcase and flip players for $$$. johnyb and Northvansteve 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 If he stays in MLS, Montreal wouldn’t be a bad place for him. We’re likely going to lose quite a few players next year, he’d have his minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Also interesting…. johnyb, Corazon, Obinna and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Not sure it's the right time for such a move. He'll get to play next season at Toronto when Laryea goes back to Forest. Doubt he'd play much at Brugge this season. If he can earn heavy MLS minutes next season and Brugge swoop in, then maybe. Free kick and YorkRegionFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 My guess is he would start with their reserve team, which plays in the division below (same league as Liam Fraser) Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 41 minutes ago, narduch said: My guess is he would start with their reserve team, which plays in the division below (same league as Liam Fraser) Right...and if you are JMR, why play reserve ball in Belgium when you can play top flight in North America? Now if he were playing reserve ball for a giant club like Barcelona, and playing his reserve ball in a strong division like the Segunda, then it's a good move. I would rather Rutty develop in MLS like Tajon, then transfer to a club like Brugge and go straight to the first team. Reserve ball at Brugge (for example) seems unnecessary. YorkRegionFan, Ruffian and narduch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 The problem with him staying in MLS is that he's not actually playing. canuckgbp, johnyb and narduch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 TFC trying to ruin his career by playing a different Canadian Ruffian, Ivan and RS 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Obinna said: Right...and if you are JMR, why play reserve ball in Belgium when you can play top flight in North America? Now if he were playing reserve ball for a giant club like Barcelona, and playing his reserve ball in a strong division like the Segunda, then it's a good move. I would rather Rutty develop in MLS like Tajon, then transfer to a club like Brugge and go straight to the first team. Reserve ball at Brugge (for example) seems unnecessary. Except there is no guarantee he will get consistent mins with TFC next season, as they will be pressure to win from the start with the 2 highly priced DPs and probably a 3rd. David started out with Ghent's 2nd team and while JMR has some pro exp it's not a lot. canuckgbp and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Kadenge said: Except there is no guarantee he will get consistent mins with TFC next season, as they will be pressure to win from the start with the 2 highly priced DPs and probably a 3rd. David started out with Ghent's 2nd team and while JMR has some pro exp it's not a lot. This is my big worry. The excuse this year is that the Azurri came too late and there wasn’t enough time to catch up. Next year it will be all about results and winning it all. Not sure how much room there will be for the young guns. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 17 minutes ago, Kadenge said: Except there is no guarantee he will get consistent mins with TFC next season, as they will be pressure to win from the start with the 2 highly priced DPs and probably a 3rd. David started out with Ghent's 2nd team and while JMR has some pro exp it's not a lot. That's true. Toronto may bring in a veteran right back in the mold of Criscito for all we know. As it stands now though, he's projected to be the no. 1 right back when Laryea leaves. And, if he's the prospect we all think he is, he should be trusted by BB to be the starter and be the replacement for a departing Laryea. After all, when Laryea left he was the starter at RB to begin the season, so in my view it's reasonable to expect that again. But it is fair to point out there's no guarantee. I agree with you on that. I guess the question is whether Toronto feel comfortable with Rutty and Thompson as the RB options next year. And it depends on if they can find the right player if they don't. It's not guaranteed they will, even if they want to. And I will keep beating the Rutty-midfield drum. I think he can play minutes there, just like Nelson and Thompson. So between RB and midfield, I am confident he'll get his reps (unless a solid player comes in for the departing Laryea, of course). Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: The excuse this year is that the Azurri came too late and there wasn’t enough time to catch up. Next year it will be all about results and winning it all. Not sure how much room there will be for the young guns. The Azzurri are here and the young guns are still playing. Thompson and Nelson started last night. Rutty was on the bench as Laryea's backup. Richie is more of a factor than the Italians, in my eyes. Now if more Italians come into the club, and one of them happens to play right back, then okay Rutty has a problem, but I won't worry about that until it actually happens. Even if a high profile RB comes in, Rutty can learn from him and get better, worst case scenario. I would rather he go elsewhere and play if that happens though. Just saying that if it does it still wouldn't be the end of the world. He'll be just 18/19 next season. He has amassed 25 games in MLS thus far. He'd still doing fairly well for himself if he's on the bench to start next season. Edit: I see what you are actually saying now, Nam. You mentioned the Azzurri in relation to TFC's ambition, not Rutty's playing time. Still, I don't think Toronto's ambition was any different earlier in the season. They still wanted to win at all costs so they could hang in the picture until the arrivals came. Edited September 1, 2022 by Obinna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, Obinna said: The Azurri are here and the young guns are still playing. Thompson and Nelson started last night. Rutty was on the bench as Laryea's backup. Richie is more of a factor than the Italians, in my eyes. Now if more Italians come into the club, and one of them happens to play right back, then okay Rutty has a problem, but I won't worry about that until it actually happens. Even if a high profile RB comes in, Rutty can learn from him and get better, worst case scenario. I would rather he go elsewhere and play if that happens though. Just saying that if it does it still wouldn't be the end of the world. He'll be just 18/19 next season. He has amassed 25 games in MLS thus far. He'd still doing fairly well for himself if he's on the bench to start next season. It is more the idea of additional imports that makes me worried. They are clearly building a team that is going to make a push for another championship. That may or may not include substantial contributions by young Canadians at the present level we are seeing. TOcanadafan and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 Just now, dyslexic nam said: It is more the idea of additional imports that makes me worried. They are clearly building a team that is going to make a push for another championship. That may or may not include substantial contributions by young Canadians at the present level we are seeing. Gotcha. That is a fair concern, I think. I guess for me I won't worry until a player actually comes in to specifically play RB (or wherever Rutty will play). And I guess my point is that Rutty should be good enough for TFC not to bring another RB in, because if he isn't should we should perhaps be talking about him going to a lower European level in search of playing time (like Scandinavia). dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footyeh Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 3 hours ago, narduch said: FWIW, deadline day in Belgium is on September 6th, not today. johnyb, Obinna, narduch and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Tone Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 22 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said: They are clearly building a team that is going to make a push for another championship. That may or may not include substantial contributions by young Canadians at the present level we are seeing. Correct. The only thing we know for sure is that the offense will be lead by the Italiians, and a 36 yr old Michael Bradley (next summer) will continue to play 90 minutes, game after game, regardless of how he plays. Club Linesman and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted September 1, 2022 Share Posted September 1, 2022 1 hour ago, jordan said: TFC trying to ruin his career by playing a different Canadian This isn't the Shaffelburg thread. jordan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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