Obinna Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 If he kept last season's scoring pace a move up to the EPL is within the realm of possibility, especially for a player with English ties. Two seasons in a row of reaching double-digit goals in all competitions in Switzerland is a very good return for a 23-year-old, especially from the winger position. Someone mentioned Fulham...why not? No goals yet I believe, but the season isn't over and its only January. Sounds like he's been coming very close, so clearly he's playing well and generating chances (though I haven't been watching Basel this season (unlike last season). If those chances start going in and Basel turn it around, offers for Miller are definitely not unrealistic. If not from EPL sides, then from other Top 5 leagues. Germany seems to grab players from Switzerland, so we could see a Bundesliga move. Pefok moved from Young Boys to Union Berlin last summer. DeRo_Is_King 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 40 minutes ago, spitfire said: That’s not true loads of players come from the Swiss super league…Wilfriend Gnonto to Leeds is the most recent … from Zurich last year… Besides him (he was 18 and had 65 apps) he’s the only guy aside from some Wolves guys returning from their loans within the past few years. I could be wrong though… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) Here are just a few are jdirect moves. Phillip senderos ,Andi Sequiri(Brighton) Salah…(Chelsea)(I found in 10 mins on Google on set..) and tons more indirectly (through Germany and France… shaquiri,xhaka schnar… and many many more. The Swiss super league has been feederfor a lot of big moves all over Europe. I agree though liam has had a slow start with goal contributions(Basel as a team has struggled over all) but if u goto stats bomb or any of the other stats sites Liam leads the league in a lot of other stats(progressions into the final third, dribbles and chances created Xa etc ) if Liam has a good 2nd half of the season in terms of goals and assists he will be in a top 5 league in the summer. I promise u that… Edited February 1, 2023 by spitfire cronaldo7, RandomGuy, Brethers8 and 13 others 13 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 15 minutes ago, spitfire said: if Liam has a good 2nd half of the season in terms of goals and assists he will be in a top 5 league in the summer. I promise u that… Would love to see it. And let's think back to when he moved to Switzerland in the first place. How long did we collectively expect him to stay in that league? Maybe a few seasons at most? I can't speak for everyone here, but I was only expecting Basel to be a short pit stop because (as you suggest) it has been a reliable feeder league for a very long time now. He moved to one of the top teams where he was expected to be one of the top players, and he's done just that. As such, Liam transferring to a Top 5 league (or top team in a league just outside that) at season's end would be very much on schedule. As the goals and assists come, the full body of his work in Switzerland, over two years, would certainly be similar to other's who've made the jump up in the past - at least I'd like to think so. gator, spitfire and Canuckia 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Hey, Larin went from Belgian DNPs to Spain just like that. Liam Millar going to a top 5 league from where he’s at now wouldn’t be much of a crazier move, assuming he has a strong second half. narduch and lowlander 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I'm confused. Is Liam being linked elsewhere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 has he really been one of the top players for basel? 1 goal 3 assists in 29 games this year and they have a number of players who have better numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) Are these stats accurate for Millar? https://fbref.com/en/players/983515f8/Liam-Millar It says these are powered by Opta but I don't see the underlying. They do paint a different picture than what's being discussed here though. Looks like he's responsible defensively and plays hard...but the offensive stats are really quite ugly. Edited February 1, 2023 by Floortom johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 59 minutes ago, VinceA said: I'm confused. Is Liam being linked elsewhere? No. Just a discussion speculating what is next for him. I get your confusion because you may find it strange that Millar's thread got bumped with transfer speculation when there is none. Him and Basel are going through a slump at the moment. On the other hand, he's already halfway through his second season and Basel was always a pit stop, not the final destination. As such, it's not so odd that we are talking about next steps for Millar, right? We may be getting a tad bit ahead of ourselves, but let's keep in mind that Basel won't be in a slump forever. Liam is going to eventually start finding the back of the net again. Once he does the links away shouldn't be far behind. Say he finishes year 2 at Basel and his total is 15 goals across 90 games in all competitions - that looks good on the resume for a 23-year-old, and he's just 5 goals away from that. I definitely wouldn't put it past Millar to score 5 goals between now and season's end. Such numbers from a young winger in the Swiss league, coming off a mid-season World Cup, would spark interest from teams in Ligue 1 or the Bundesliga, and possibly teams in the other Top 5 leagues, in my opinion anyway. Edited February 1, 2023 by Obinna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 17 minutes ago, Obinna said: No. Just a discussion speculating what is next for him. I get your confusion because you may find it strange that Millar's thread got bumped with transfer speculation when there is none. Him and Basel are going through a slump at the moment. On the other hand, he's already halfway through his second season and Basel was always a pit stop, not the final destination. As such, it's not so odd that we are talking about next steps for Millar, right? We may be getting a tad bit ahead of ourselves, but let's keep in mind that Basel won't be in a slump forever. Liam is going to eventually start finding the back of the net again. Once he does the links away shouldn't be far behind. Say he finishes year 2 at Basel and his total is 15 goals across 90 games in all competitions - that looks good on the resume for a 23-year-old, and he's just 5 goals away from that. I definitely wouldn't put it past Millar to score 5 goals between now and season's end. Such numbers from a young winger in the Swiss league, coming off a mid-season World Cup, would spark interest from teams in Ligue 1 or the Bundesliga, and possibly teams in the other Top 5 leagues, in my opinion anyway. Could be cool to see him go to Belgium? Not even as a step up, but as a change of scenery. Plus, in the same way that Ballou Tabla is still getting offers because he was a Barcelona youth player, Liam Millar was a Liverpool youth player. that's nothing to scoff at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) I’m filming splits (half day have nights ) can’t reply properly last two weeks of my tv series. Pull up stats bomb…will reply better later Edited February 1, 2023 by spitfire GasPed, sose, johnyb and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 31 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: Could be cool to see him go to Belgium? Not even as a step up, but as a change of scenery. Short answer is no. Long answer is... Unless it's a Champions League team (Genk is cream of the crop right now), I don't see Millar going to Belgium. I think if you're Millar you want to target a top-5 league next. Go to a stable mid-level club in Germany or France, where you can get a lot of playing time, but don't have a massive risk of relegation. That's what I want to see, and I think it's a very realistic target. Belgium and Switzerland serve the same function in that both are feeder leagues, so unless there's a guaranteed CL incentive why move? The caveat I suppose is how Basel finish the season. I think CL with a Belgian club could be worth it, but if Basel can qualify for Conference League again, or better yet Europa league, I don't think you leave Basel for Belgium if you're Millar, not even for the CL games. For all we know Basel will grab a CL spot themselves, which would certainly negate any incentive for switching Switzerland with Belgium. They are currently in 5th, but only 5 points out of the 2nd place - which is the CL 2nd round qualifying spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 18 minutes ago, spitfire said: Interesting. Are these stats as of today? Seems weird that they would be so different. An xG + xA difference of 0.6 is absolutely nuts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Weird conversation. I think Millar is in a great situation. Good league, good club. Plays. Definitely no need to move but that's just my 2cents rkomar, Obinna, Shway and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 3 hours ago, spitfire said: I’m filming splits (half day have nights ) can’t reply properly last two weeks of my tv series. Pull up stats bomb…will reply better later Galindo posted this a month ago and it's from the same stats database. These are also different than what you posted though. I think the obvious tell is the xG +xA of 0.72 - which would not only be extremely high but would also indicate a massive underperformance relative to expectations. This has him at around 0.3 for his entire time in Basel while the stats i posted had him at 0.14 which was only for the last 365 days. https://twitter.com/GalindoPW/status/1610675620488388608?s=20&t=MoZXZi-xTADL5lYfVVVAfA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 Will be getting a new manager Obinna, johnyb, InglewoodJack and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 @spitfiredont think you’ll answer but I’ll try, has Liam been garnering interest for a move up ? Seems like he’s been one of their better players since his arrival and has produced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 It is clear that Basel and Liam with them have been hurt by the way they've sold off key players without replacing them with similar quality. It is one thing to be a selling club, quite another to gut yourself and cut short other, more conventional paths to financial success, such as by being competitive in all competitions. While I appreciate a player may like to be in a selling club, if the play suffers, they all suffer in terms of future projection, unless somehow an individual is able to rise above. Considering the profile of Basel, there is no reason why they should be off the pace of the league like this. johnyb, The Real Marc and lowlander 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Returns from injury back on the bench!! Unnamed Trialist, Ivan, TOcanadafan and 15 others 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Didn't know he was out injured. Explains why he didn't get off the bench. Was concerned when I checked the updates, but good to know it's just bringing him back slowly and not falling out of favor, which was my concern when I saw he never got on today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted February 19, 2023 Share Posted February 19, 2023 Broke a bone in his hand. A few weeks back (similar to what JD did) Just getting back up to Fitness. Only back in training a few days… Big game at home Thursday … lucky enough to be in Basel atm Obinna, GasPed, dyslexic nam and 6 others 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted February 20, 2023 Share Posted February 20, 2023 4 hours ago, spitfire said: Broke a bone in his hand a few weeks back (similar to what JD did). At the next Canada game are we going to have a lineup full of IMS (Iron Mike Sharpe) impersonators? Strait Red, SoCalTransport and toontownman 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sebdeserio Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 On the bench for the second leg against Trabzonspor. Shway, Obinna, ADP10 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Still on the bench with less than 10 minutes to go and only one sub left. #freeliam Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted February 23, 2023 Share Posted February 23, 2023 Through to the round of 16 … draw is tomorrow at 1300 cet https://www.uefa.com/uefaeuropaconferenceleague/news/0279-162e8f816943-13d374ef916e-1000--uefa-europa-conference-league-round-of-16-draw-what-is-it-wh/ #freeliam !!! Obinna, GasPed, InglewoodJack and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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