Bertuzzi44 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, gator said: No matter what the reasons are it deinitely has potential to be a huge loss especially in the upcoming windows with 4 matches in Central America where his experience and leadership would have been huge! IF we qualify this will all be forgotten IF things go horribly wrong this will be a moment we will look back at and speculate on! The speculation has already begun my friend gator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matro25 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) This might mean Paton or Mitrovic gets the call now. Or both. Edited January 16, 2022 by Matro25 Infernal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 2 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: It seems clearly planned to avoid speculation with the new call-up, which is this week. This way he steps to the side before we can keep second guessing what is going on. Either it is Herdman: "I'm not calling you in", or it's Arfield: "I'm not coming in John". Or a bit of both. So they agree to end amicably, which I think is fine. The main thing that bothers me is that we could use every quality footballer at our disposal, and he was definitely one of those. Then, the second thing that gets me: didn't Arfield want to go to a World Cup? That kind of makes me lean more towards the "i'm not calling you, you are not in our plans etc" camp. If he choose not to go to this camp to protect his ranger career, he could always just keep Canada on the back burner and HOPE he might get called when we qualify, which we assume he wants and would accept. If Herdman gave him the heave ho, why wouldnt he come out and announce his INT days are done and he is going to concentrate on Rangers (which they would love to hear). Moldy9 and gator 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Marc Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) I can’t imagine Herdman aka Mr Schmooze told him to take a hike. These are the three games that decide our fate. I would imagine that Herdman called him and he understandably declined. I would think that Herdman probably then told him not showing up at this point makes it impossible to call him for the World Cup. So they part ways respectfully. Airfield shows his club commitment and Herdman gets certainty. All speculation of course. Edited January 16, 2022 by The Real Marc Jedi Ram, An Observer, johnyb and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeRo_Is_King Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 14 minutes ago, Bertuzzi44 said: We move on. Yeah. As much as I wanted to see Arfield play for us again, we've been successful without him. His services would have helped us, but there's no sense in dwelling on this. His retirement would have probably happened in the next couple years anyway, given his age. It's extremely disappointing, but we're lucky to have some young options in the pipeline with equally high ceilings. johnyb and Shway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 WTF? Part of a club deal? We'll take you for X as long as you don't play for Canada? johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 No surprise as I can say I saw this coming. Now it’s to wait for the “story”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Marc Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 That wouldn’t be the first time our guys have been told that. Just now, admin said: WTF? Part of a club deal? We'll take you for X as long as you don't play for Canada? Bison44 and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matro25 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 At the end of the day Herdman didn't force him to announce his retirement. He could have kept the window open. rkomar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) Ya im a bit confused. I thought his goal was to get to a world cup. We’re missing davies and hoilett, bunch of mls guys out of season. We’re sitting first in our group, with a demanding 3 game window. He would've seen a bunch of time and could have solidified our (and his) spot in qatar with 3 results. Literally one window to commit to to get to a world cup but it was a tad bit inconvenient for rangers’ schedule? Seems off to me and im left with a bitter taste as well. Edited January 16, 2022 by king1010 MtlMario, Moldy9, dyslexic nam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 It is what it is. Probably more to it than meets the eye but we may never find out; nor is it that important, it's done. Thanks Scotty for your service; you did well for us. Now I can go back to hating Rangers as much as I did before Arfield. MtlMario, trc2014, Califax and 7 others 4 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJsens1 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Very frustrating. It’s not the end of the world but every window previous I was hoping to see his inclusion. I would have liked to see what he could do with Eustaqiuo. Oh well Alex, lamptern and prairiecanuck 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Matro25 said: At the end of the day Herdman didn't force him to announce his retirement. He could have kept the window open. Yeah he could have. The fact that he didnt....and gave up the chance, even if it was remote..to get called to Qatar tells you something eh?? Wheres SpecialK?? What does he have to say? Moldy9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) Super disappointed. Trying my hardest to reserve judgement but, last we saw him in uniform he was all about praising the squad, manager and playing, and last time he was asked he wanted to play again. So like everyone, I’ve got ideas but, no story. Let’s see if the media finally does their job. Edited January 16, 2022 by Califax Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 That is 3 top quality Canadian players missing this window already, hopefully we have as much depth as it appears because these are 2 brutal windows to navigate through! Califax 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 9 minutes ago, admin said: WTF? Part of a club deal? We'll take you for X as long as you don't play for Canada? I think I recall Jason De Vos saying he had been pressured at a few clubs not to play for Canada, and he had turned down contracts while on a free transfer because the contract came with the understanding he would not continue to play for Canada. He also said one reason he went to Wigan was Paul Jewell understood the pride and importance of someone playing for their country, so that was no issue there. *this is to the best of my memory anyway johnyb, The Real Marc and sstackho 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, gator said: That is 3 top quality Canadian players missing this window already, hopefully we have as much depth as it appears because these are 2 brutal windows to navigate through! Arfield hasn't been with the team all of 2021 so it's not like we don't know how to play without him. Matro25, Joe MacCarthy, Jedi Ram and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matro25 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Sal333 said: Arfield hasn't been with the team all of 2021 so it's not like we don't know how to play without him. In fact we had our best year ever without him. Good luck on the rest of his career but I'm glad this chapter is over and we can move on to recruiting the younger midfielders we have like Mitrovic. Joe MacCarthy, lamptern, Macksam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 7 minutes ago, Sal333 said: Arfield hasn't been with the team all of 2021 so it's not like we don't know how to play without him. We have a bunch of out of season MLS players, the training match is scrapped and Hoilett and Davies are missing so far, I personally would feel much more comfortable if Arfield was in the mix! MtlMario, costarg, johnyb and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Sal333 said: Arfield hasn't been with the team all of 2021 so it's not like we don't know how to play without him. We’re missing a lot of guys, we’re now missing our best player, we’re probably going to miss more because of omicron and travel, and we’re going to two pretty crappy places to play. As much as we looked outstanding in Mexico, we look like a bag of smashed assholes in Jamaica And on top of all that we might not have Home fans for our game against the other top team in the region There is no decent player that I wouldn’t want to have available right now Edited January 16, 2022 by Califax Admin, gator, MtlMario and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 (edited) Retiring now, just summed up his commitment to the nation. Fickle. Was that your king! Edited January 16, 2022 by Shway jordan and Matro25 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 The classy take is to wish him well as we move on, recognizing his positive contribution to the program. That said, the frusturation and bad taste in our mouths is very justified. It may take a while for some of us to move past the disappointment. In a way I am glad we get closure on him. It's good to know so we can move forward. Players coming out of retirement to play in the World Cup is not unheard of, but this feels final to me, so I will wish him the best and look foundly back on his short, but impact career for Canada. Thanks Scottie! Jedi Ram, HochelagaFC, Sal333 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 3 minutes ago, Shway said: Retiring now, just summed up his commitment to the nation. Fickle. Was that your king! Lol nice try Califax, Shway and Addona 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 Let me join in on the thanks. Thanks Scott for showing up when you did. You were part of revolutionary moments and now you are history. Good luck in your future endeavours, I hope he comes to visit Canada for a second time in the near future. Dr.Dre and lamptern 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted January 16, 2022 Share Posted January 16, 2022 1 minute ago, Califax said: We’re missing a lot of guys, we’re now missing our best player, we’re probably going to miss more because of omicron and travel, and we’re going to two pretty crappy places to play. As much as we looked outstanding in Mexico, we look like a bag of smashed assholes in Jamaica And on top of all that we might not have Home fans for our game against the other top team in the region There is no decent player that I wouldn’t want to have available right now Look, I Iiked Arfield especially since he said yes to us when many hemmed and hawed about playing for the NT. But he didn't show up all of 2021. He may have had a good reason or maybe Hoillet's cap tweet reveals something we done want to face. Arfield made excuses for not showing up all of 2021 and Hoillet called him out. Arfield plays in the midfield. Last I saw we're not missing any players in the midfield. Davies and Hoillet play on the wings. Sure, I would like to have Arfield on the team instead of Fraser but Liam is 7 or 6 on the depth chart and Scott is 5th after Eustaquio, Kaye, Hutch and Oso. We'll be fine. It's not like we had him there all of 2021 and now we have to fill his shoes Shway, Califax and HochelagaFC 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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