Alex Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 I’d love to play Deutschland, we have before, lost 4-1 in Wolfsburg I believe. Kevin McKenna put us ahead 1-0. Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 6 hours ago, narduch said: A lot of the UEFA groups have 5 teams. So there will be some teams available. But we probably need to act fast Exactly. Was looking at the Spain Euro-qualifiers schedule and of course being a Nation's League finalist they're freed up for it in June, so in the fall they'll stay busy along with the other three in NL, Italy, Netherlands and Croatia. For example, in that September window I think we could play 2 teams also in the Spain group, Norway and Scotland. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 1 hour ago, Gian-Luca said: Germany should be available for friendlies as well That's a good shout. I would like to see one giant of football (Germany would fit the bill) and one up-and-coming team that's beatable (rematch against Morocco?). Two world cup teams inside the top 15 of FIFA rankings. Two teams we can learn a lot from. Two teams the players will want to measure up against to test where they are at. Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyle_The_Hill Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Sorry I'm sure this was answered but I can't find it, even with a loss tonight and a Panama win, I assume there is no chance they can catch us for fourth in Concacaf rankings? Also related, does anyone know the formula for Concacaf rankings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBCS Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 18 hours ago, Kyle_The_Hill said: Sorry I'm sure this was answered but I can't find it, even with a loss tonight and a Panama win, I assume there is no chance they can catch us for fourth in Concacaf rankings? Also related, does anyone know the formula for Concacaf rankings? I've never seen a concrete explanation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QBCS Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 18 hours ago, Kyle_The_Hill said: Sorry I'm sure this was answered but I can't find it, even with a loss tonight and a Panama win, I assume there is no chance they can catch us for fourth in Concacaf rankings? Also related, does anyone know the formula for Concacaf rankings? Apologies, complicated but https://www.concacaf.com/nations-league/news/concacaf-launches-new-ranking-index/ Rivaldo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) That link makes everything clear except for the mystery formula or table that determines the "expected" outcome. Panama (1650) is behind us by 63 in the Feb 28th CONCACAF rankings. The K value for a Nations League game (importance of the match) is 35 and the greatest multiplier would be 2 (1 for them winning, subtract -1 for them being considered before the game as certainly likely to lose to Costa Rica). So, while it is mathematically possible for them to overtake us based on the Costa Rica game, it is unlikely. That said, if they were to beat us in June (not gonna happen, but just hypothetically speaking ), they would overtake us for 4th at that point. Edited March 29, 2023 by shorty QBCS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 (edited) On 3/28/2023 at 9:14 AM, Gian-Luca said: Germany should be available for friendlies as well They are. The rumour is that they will travel to the USA and Mexico during the October window. Which means that if we play them it would be in Germany and in September. There is no other window available. Edited March 29, 2023 by Olympique_de_Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 1 hour ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: They are. The rumour is that they will travel to the USA and Mexico during the October window. Which means that if we play them it would be in Germany and in September. There is no other window available. Clearly Germany have interest in simulating what a WC 2026 could look like. Could we similarly benefit since we are hosts? Perhaps we should be looking to primarily play home friendlies? Perhaps there are financial considerations, but from a competition standpoint we are not playing official competition in Europe anytime soon. Might as well play at home, since we'll be doing so in 2026. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 2 hours ago, Obinna said: Clearly Germany have interest in simulating what a WC 2026 could look like. Could we similarly benefit since we are hosts? Perhaps we should be looking to primarily play home friendlies? Perhaps there are financial considerations, but from a competition standpoint we are not playing official competition in Europe anytime soon. Might as well play at home, since we'll be doing so in 2026. (Whispers: the CSB should help the CMNT play some home friendlies, for a % of income). Stryker911 and QBCS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metro Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Latest CONCACAF rankings are out. Dated March 31: https://www.concacaf.com/rankings/men-s-national-team/ dyslexic nam, johnyb, Olympique_de_Marseille and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 5 minutes ago, Metro said: Latest CONCACAF rankings are out. Dated March 31: https://www.concacaf.com/rankings/men-s-national-team/ We are within striking distance of CR, but Panama is within striking distance of us. Theoretically, it looks like they could jump as high as 3rd if they beat us and definitely if they win it all. Depending on what kind of friendly window the Ticos have, they could remain ahead of us if we lose both matches. It's going to be a tough game against Panama, but I expect us to win and then get to the final. That alone should keep us ahead of them heading to the GC. It will likely see us leapfrog the Ticos as well. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 On 3/27/2023 at 7:13 AM, trc2014 said: If Panama beats Costa Rica and we draw Honduras, is there a chance they vault us for the top 4 rating? We are still top 4. Our win against Honduras meant Panama could not make up any real ground. They picked up +45 points and we picked up +30. Can someone summarize how the rankings work? Do they only factor intra-concacaf matches? If so, it looks like Panama earned more for a single win against Costa Rica than we did for two wins against Honduras and Curacao. I get how the Ticos are 3rd in the region and Honduras and Curacao were 8th and 13th respectively, but that's still a little surprising they were able to earn more points than us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Also, when do they lock in the rankings to determine Copa America qualifying seeds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 35 minutes ago, Obinna said: Also, when do they lock in the rankings to determine Copa America qualifying seeds? Now. Those are the rankings. narduch, Obinna and nfitz 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 Just now, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Now. Those are the rankings. beautiful. Nice to have that QF spot wrapped up for the next edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 We know the teams who will participate now, so here is a look at how the Copa America qualifiers (aka 2023-24 NL group stage) could look: Group A Jamaica Honduras Martinique Curacao Cuba Nicaragua Group B Panama El Salvador Suriname Grenada Haiti Guatemala And for fun here are some possible QF matchups: (1st ranked team) Mexico vs Honduras (2nd ranked team) USA vs El Salvador (3rd ranked team) Panama vs Costa Rica (4th ranked team) Canada vs Jamaica mrtoddcan and Olympique_de_Marseille 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 16 minutes ago, Obinna said: We know the teams who will participate now, so here is a look at how the Copa America qualifiers (aka 2023-24 NL group stage) could look: Group A Jamaica Honduras Martinique Curacao Cuba Nicaragua Group B Panama El Salvador Suriname Grenada Haiti Guatemala And for fun here are some possible QF matchups: (1st ranked team) Mexico vs Honduras (2nd ranked team) USA vs El Salvador (3rd ranked team) Panama vs Costa Rica (4th ranked team) Canada vs Jamaica I still wouldn't want to draw Costa Rica and I keep waiting for Jamaica to put it all together, but there's no reason Canada shouldn't advance against those teams. And that's assuming there's no upsets in qualifying. Haiti over El Salvador wouldn't shock me, for instance. johnyb, Olympique_de_Marseille, Corazon and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted March 30, 2023 Share Posted March 30, 2023 There’s probably 4 teams in each group that could top their respective group. I’d probably want to avoid a Jamaica team that was able to top their group but I think we’d be fine with anyone. Shway and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted April 4, 2023 Share Posted April 4, 2023 On 3/30/2023 at 11:43 AM, Obinna said: We are still top 4. Our win against Honduras meant Panama could not make up any real ground. They picked up +45 points and we picked up +30. Can someone summarize how the rankings work? Do they only factor intra-concacaf matches? If so, it looks like Panama earned more for a single win against Costa Rica than we did for two wins against Honduras and Curacao. I get how the Ticos are 3rd in the region and Honduras and Curacao were 8th and 13th respectively, but that's still a little surprising they were able to earn more points than us. I'm having weird internet issues right now, so I can't load the link I have to the ranking procedure, but I do have my notes "explaining" how the "Expected Result" variable is determined. "E = P(win) - P(loss), where P(win) and P(loss) are the probabilities of a win and a loss, based on difference in ranking points and home field advantage, and some voodoo for non-CONCACAF teams." That last part implies they don't explain how, but they DO consider games against non-CONCACAF teams for their rankings. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacbru Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 Confirmation of the Copa 2024 qualifying format. https://www.tsn.ca/soccer/canada-s-bid-to-make-2024-copa-america-as-guest-team-will-involve-just-one-opponent-1.1955164 johnyb, Kadenge, narduch and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted May 2, 2023 Share Posted May 2, 2023 The CONCACAF link is here: https://www.concacaf.com/nations-league/news/concacaf-confirms-details-for-2023-24-concacaf-nations-league-official-draw/ narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 So, one win away from the Copa and confirmed room in the September and October windows for friendlies. Nice. Ottawafan and Club Linesman 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruud Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 I do find it strange that Canada us and Mex don’t have direct entry into Copas given we are future hosts and don’t go through qualifier. frankly the US hosting makes this process even more ridiculous masster, Free kick and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggietfc Posted May 3, 2023 Share Posted May 3, 2023 so who do we have to beat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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