SthMelbRed Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 5 hours ago, Obinna said: but Australia is interesting. They could be a dark horse. How do we feel about their possible inclusion? I like it! Obinna and gigi riva 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 On 1/2/2023 at 12:52 PM, SpursFlu said: I really hope they don't invite teams out of the Americas I'm still with this! Whether 16 or 24....I want it to be teams only from the Con nations. Conembol can make those decisions when their tournament is played on their territory. I see President Victor putting his foot down, as this will be a precursor to the WC tournament, and will also allow other Concacaf nations to "prepare/test their metal" against better teams. All this to say....the only "invited" teams are Mexico, Canada, and USA. Concacaf will ensure theirs some type of qualifying method for their teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 50 minutes ago, Shway said: I'm still with this! Whether 16 or 24....I want it to be teams only from the Con nations. Conembol can make those decisions when their tournament is played on their territory. I see President Victor putting his foot down, as this will be a precursor to the WC tournament, and will also allow other Concacaf nations to "prepare/test their metal" against better teams. All this to say....the only "invited" teams are Mexico, Canada, and USA. Concacaf will ensure theirs some type of qualifying method for their teams. While this sounds good, it's probably not an ideal threat. CONNEMBOL can counter with "fine, we won't invite any of Can/Mex/US and we'll just hold it in South America the way we (almost) always do. Enjoy no real competitive games for 4 years." A better method: Vic letting CONNEMBOL know that he has 30+ votes for the 2030 WC destination, and he might "appreciate" it if all 6 spots went to CONCACAF. Unnamed Trialist and gator 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 3 hours ago, Shway said: I'm still with this! Whether 16 or 24....I want it to be teams only from the Con nations. Conembol can make those decisions when their tournament is played on their territory. I see President Victor putting his foot down, as this will be a precursor to the WC tournament, and will also allow other Concacaf nations to "prepare/test their metal" against better teams. All this to say....the only "invited" teams are Mexico, Canada, and USA. Concacaf will ensure theirs some type of qualifying method for their teams. It's a CONMEBOL tournament, nobody else can put a foot down anywhere. They decide. It's been around for longer than the World Cup (which they also invented). You really have no clue what Copa America is and couldn't care less, just admit it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 16 hours ago, CanadianSoccerFan said: This is how they bought their way into previous editions. Probably . Not that it helped in any way . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 7 hours ago, Shway said: I'm still with this! Whether 16 or 24....I want it to be teams only from the Con nations. Conembol can make those decisions when their tournament is played on their territory. I see President Victor putting his foot down, as this will be a precursor to the WC tournament, and will also allow other Concacaf nations to "prepare/test their metal" against better teams. All this to say....the only "invited" teams are Mexico, Canada, and USA. Concacaf will ensure theirs some type of qualifying method for their teams. I guess its more profitable to play the games in the USA . Which is a shame in a way. I am sure the average supporter in Buenos Aires, Montevideo , or Sao Paulo who looks forward to this I am sure is not that thrilled . I would love to, see Canada play in places like La Bombonara, ETC . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 If prepping for the World Cup means Vancouver and the CSA are too shortsighted to spend the time and money to put grass down for a single previous tournament, I'll be bothered. Say the same about the other turf venues. Watch how Toronto and Mexico get games but the well-oiled CSA-Vancouver connection comes up with some glib statement bowing out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 9 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: It's a CONMEBOL tournament, nobody else can put a foot down anywhere. They decide. It's been around for longer than the World Cup (which they also invented). You really have no clue what Copa America is and couldn't care less, just admit it. Okay so clearly you didn’t read what I wrote, or it went over your comprehension. Because I know what that Copa America is. Yes it’s a Conembol tournament. But if they want the tournament played in the U$A, on Concacaf territory they will need the approval from the Concacaf president! I don’t know if you listened to the interview from Prez Vic, but he stated just that. Now reread what I wrote understanding that, and understanding that I quoted someone who said they “I really hope they don't invite teams out of the Americas”… or maybe it’s time for your midday nap. RJB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 4 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: If prepping for the World Cup means Vancouver and the CSA are too shortsighted to spend the time and money to put grass down for a single previous tournament, I'll be bothered. Say the same about the other turf venues. Watch how Toronto and Mexico get games but the well-oiled CSA-Vancouver connection comes up with some glib statement bowing out. I think it would be a good test to see how it would work, before testing it on the grandstage. Whatever the CFL and the BC lions are planning to do during the tournament, can also be used as a trial run. Because there’s no way, that they could put a temporary surface down and have the BC lions play on it in between. Oh yea….and as it pertains to where games are played, Toronto and Vancouver are not comparable for many reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 4, 2023 Share Posted January 4, 2023 12 hours ago, Watchmen said: While this sounds good, it's probably not an ideal threat. CONNEMBOL can counter with "fine, we won't invite any of Can/Mex/US and we'll just hold it in South America the way we (almost) always do. Enjoy no real competitive games for 4 years." Remember this idea of the “return of the joint tournament” is solely because of the money that was earned. Conembol knows this, and Concacaf knows this as well. As you stated, it’s mutually beneficial to both federations. Both have bargaining chips. 12 hours ago, Watchmen said: A better method: Vic letting CONNEMBOL know that he has 30+ votes for the 2030 WC destination, and he might "appreciate" it if all 6 spots went to CONCACAF. You literally just found a nice way to put it lol. But do you think it’s that simple? I’m not sure, but does Concacaf typically have a unified vote? 6 teams getting in the tournament from 38 doesn’t scream guaranteed support from the “have nots” unless you know….money is trickling down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 On 1/3/2023 at 5:17 PM, VinceA said: I really want to see a 24 team Gold Cup but that's because I'm a sick fuck and want to see Puerto Rico and Montserrat battle it out. This is why I want League B and League C in Nations League to have playoffs as well, not just League A. That would be better than having a non 2^x number of teams in the Gold Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted January 21, 2023 Share Posted January 21, 2023 By mid-March (of this year) CONCACAF members are expected to know if this is a go for them, or if it will be a regular Copa América. https://us.as.com/futbol/internacional/honduras-sabra-en-marzo-si-jugara-la-copa-america-2024-n/ Metro, Shway, narduch and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 johnyb, A_Gagne, EJsens1 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooterlawrence5 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 narduch, Watchmen, johnyb and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Nations League just got more important CanadianSoccerFan, johnyb and Shway 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trc2014 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Imagine we miss out on Copa because of that game that was allowed to go forward in Honduras. jhoops__ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, trc2014 said: Imagine we miss out on Copa because of that game that was allowed to go forward in Honduras. It's next years Nations Cup Metro, jhoops__, trc2014 and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 We just have to make sure we don’t get relegated. trc2014 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Yes! Exciting news, missed the World Cup...but won't be missing this! I hope its expanded more than 6 teams, and I hope its only teams from Concacaf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) I honest to god thought it was based on this year and was big mad. Thanks for helping me regulate. Wonder if they'll time it with Euros so they don't overlap? Lotta soccer that summer. Edited January 27, 2023 by Califax jhoops__ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Califax said: I honest to god thought it was based on this year and was big mad. Thanks for helping me regulate. Wonder if they'll time it with Euros so they don't overlap? Lotta soccer that summer. But wouldn't be real overlap, just maybe overload? I have no issue with watching a game during the afternoon, and then watching a live game at night. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I think the real action in March will be the 2nd division Nations League. Top teams will get a chance to qualify for Copa America. I think we'll have some pretty exciting Nations League games later in the year. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Shway said: But wouldn't be real overlap, just maybe overload? They will likely overlap. Women's Gold Cup in June in the USA as well, so I assume the Copa America will be in July. EURO 2024 will be from June 14 to July 14. They can schedule Group Stage matches in the evening so broadcast for both events don't overlap. Edited January 27, 2023 by Olympique_de_Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califax Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Could take my entire vacation that summer. Week in Germany, week in Americatown. What a summer to be gluten intolerant. jhoops__ and JamboAl 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just started laying the foundation with my wife for a US trip in the summer of 2024. I also put my name in for the Paris 2024 Summer Games draw which could theoretically conflict but that would probably be a prohibitively expensive trip so could easily get nixed even if we got selected. A road trip to the US in the family wagon may be much more viable. Plus I could go to a gun range for fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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