WCQ: Third Round - Window 2 (October 7-13, 2021)

[mrstepp817]

Jon Arnold was on Scuffed this week, its a USMNT pod but he gives great insight on Jamaica and Panama which is of interest to Canada obviously 

 

Worth the listen for sure

 

[Approve My Account Pls]

Anyone else find match days move so damn slowly... 

[Joe MacCarthy]

16 minutes ago, Approve My Account Pls said:

Anyone else find match days move so damn slowly... 

Ok,here's some food for thought

Deep dish Dominos pizza is on the menu for the game tonight.  It's not that great but it's relatively cheap.  Two things, if you order online you can get extra sauce put on for free.  You can get a good deal if you buy one and get one free with a code.  They also have a deal where you get unlimited medium 12" pizzas for $7.99 each, if you upgrade them to deep dish they will be $9.99 instead of the regular deep dish price of $12.99. Also, the toppings obviously add to the price, the less you get the cheaper, here it is about $1.50 per topping.  Also I find the deep dish reheats much better if you have some left over.  Prices may vary depending on location.

[Floortom]

https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/sports/20211007/tappa-borrowed-time

This says that Whitmore will be canned unless Jamaica gets 5+ points this window..not going to be easy considering how decimated they are

Edited October 7, 2021 by Floortom

[CanadaFan123]

2 minutes ago, Floortom said:

https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/sports/20211007/tappa-borrowed-time

This says that Whitmore will be canned unless Jamaica gets 5 points this window..not going to be easy considering how decimated they are

So draws away to USA and Honduras + a home win vs. Canada with no fans.

Poor guy.

[JamboAl]

4 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said:

So draws away to USA and Honduras + a home win vs. Canada with no fans.

Poor guy.

So win away in the US and Honduras and lose at home to us.  No problem man!

[Mattd97]

10 hours ago, Jedi Ram said:

Current Projections - courtesy of reddit/el_noido

Using ELO and Monte Carlo stats model.

I've always felt all these models miss important concacaf things like heat/altitude, midnight alarms, fireworks, food poisoning, armed kidnapping of family members, etc

[Unnamed Trialist]

Well I am more hyped than nervous. I like the mood on this board, quiet optimism.

As Cruyff would say to the players before a big final: "Go out and enjoy yourselves."

So this is not a final but like one, in the sense that no one expects anything from us, so anything positive is already a victory. If it's with points, all the better, but if we show we are ready to rival Mexico that is that: what more can a Concacaf nation want than to rival Mexico?

[Unnamed Trialist]

Repeat (and Nolando, what are you doing up??!!)

Edited October 7, 2021 by Unnamed Trialist

[nolando]

12 minutes ago, Mattd97 said:

I've always felt all these models miss important concacaf things like heat/altitude, midnight alarms, fireworks, food poisoning, armed kidnapping of family members, etc

Bags of piss thrown, laser pointers in goalkeepers eyes, coins tossed from the stands, corrupt/inept officials...

[nolando]

1 minute ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

Repeat (and Nolando, what are you doing up??!!)

Transit to work, my friend. But gotta stay connected with my people.

[Sal333]

16 minutes ago, nolando said:

Bags of piss thrown, laser pointers in goalkeepers eyes, coins tossed from the stands, corrupt/inept officials...

I read that officals are changing the name of the federation to CONCACA.

[Joe MacCarthy]

6 minutes ago, Sal333 said:

I read that officals are changing the name of the federation to CONCACA.

Tres drole

[kacbru]

7 hours ago, Joe MacCarthy said:

Also I find the deep dish reheats much better if you have some left over.  Prices may vary depending on location.

Is this an actual thing - left over pizza? I mean sure I've heard of it, just have never seen it. 

[Joe MacCarthy]

5 minutes ago, kacbru said:

Is this an actual thing - left over pizza? I mean sure I've heard of it, just have never seen it. 

If you order enough of it there is

[footballfreak]

Ideal day:

USA 1-0 Jamaica (90th minute backbreaker)

Honduras 0-0/1 Costa Rica

Canada 2-1 Mexico

El Salvador 1-0 Panama

 

Worst possible day:

USA 0-4 Jamaica

Honduras 2-0 Costa Rica

Canada 1-5 Mexico

El Salvador 2-4 Panama

 

What we’ll probably get:

USA 3-1 Jamaica

Honduras 0-0 Costa Rica

Canada 0-2 Mexico

El Salvador 1-2 Panama

 

 

[narduch]

Think I'm going to hope for draws in all the non Canada games

[Sal333]

Just now, narduch said:

Think I'm going to hope for draws in all the non Canada games

You know what they say, right? Careful what you wish for. You never specified what you want for the Canada game. The other three games end in draws and Canada loses 4 nil.

[ADP10]

22 minutes ago, footballfreak said:

Ideal day:

USA 1-0 Jamaica (90th minute backbreaker)

Honduras 0-0/1 Costa Rica

Canada 2-1 Mexico

El Salvador 1-0 Panama

 

Worst possible day:

USA 0-4 Jamaica

Honduras 2-0 Costa Rica

Canada 1-5 Mexico

El Salvador 2-4 Panama

 

What we’ll probably get:

USA 3-1 Jamaica

Honduras 0-0 Costa Rica

Canada 0-2 Mexico

El Salvador 1-2 Panama

 

 

Do we really want a USA win?

[jtpc]

42 minutes ago, narduch said:

Think I'm going to hope for draws in all the non Canada games

Draws would suit me just fine as well. I also wouldn't mind an El Salvador win over Panama. I think El Salvador will finish either near or at the bottom, so I don't mind if they come away with 3 points tonight. Panama would stay at 5 points, so I think that's a good tradeoff. If someone has to win the Honduras/Costa Rica match, I'd rather it be Costa Rica since I think Honduras is a greater threat for the top 4.

Edited October 7, 2021 by jtpc

[footballfreak]

16 minutes ago, ADP10 said:

Do we really want a USA win?

Anything that separates the top 3 and the bottom 5 is a positive imo. I want USA/MEX running the table against everybody without a maple leaf on their jersey.

I suppose you could argue a Jamaica loss makes them more desperate against us, but imo a win makes them believe again. I want a demoralized, hapless Jamaica that doesn’t believe they can win.

Edited October 7, 2021 by footballfreak

[Cblake]

USA and Jamaica starting 11s for tonight in Austin. The Americans certainly have the team to take care of this short handed Jamaica side. 

[Cblake]

Just now, footballfreak said:

Anything that separates the top 3 and the bottom 5 is a positive imo. I want USA/MEX running the table against everybody without a maple leaf on their jersey.

I suppose you could argue a Jamaica loss makes them more desperate against us, but imo a win makes them believe again. I want a demoralized, hapless Jamaica that doesn’t believe they can win.

This depleted Jamaica side needs to be taken care by both Canada and the US this break. The quicker some teams are pushed to the point of no return the better for establishing the race for the top 3 among the better teams. 

[narduch]

Possible USA v Jamaica  stream

http://www.hesgoal.com/news/88650/USA_vs_Jamaica.html

[dyslexic nam]

12 minutes ago, ADP10 said:

Do we really want a USA win?

In literally almost any other situation, no.  But in this qualifying process it is a grudging yes from me.
 
If Mexico locks up spot 1 and the USA ultimately gets enough points to qualify (taking points off of our opponents in the process) I think it maximizes our chances of qualification. 

I think the USA has too much quality this cycle not to qualify.  If there was any doubt of that, their second half comeback against Honduras (in Honduras) should set the record straight.  I don’t see any realistic scenario where they and Mexico aren’t  both in the top 3.  So my preference is that they both get as many points against our other competitors as possible.  That is ultimately better for us than temporarily feeling good because the US were humbled in a game against some rival - that might then be closer to beating us to 3rd spot.  

For me this is all about the end result. Getting to Qatar trumps everything else.  That is why I would sit some heavy hitters tonight (as much as I would love to test ourselves against them) and why I want the Us to win (as much as I would lie to see the stumble).