IAmPappy Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) NFL, NHL, MLB, and NBA are at the pinnacle because nobody else in the world plays those sports. Yah, a few here and there dabble in it, but let’s be honest, soccer and cricket are really their games. Therefore, in a sample of 1, America is #1. People talking about MLS being top five in the world 😂😂😂😂😂 ... how about being top in North America first? In 25 years, not one CCL title to show. Not one! Reality check people. Edited February 28, 2020 by IAmPappy Red and White and red card 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 12 minutes ago, IAmPappy said: NFL, NHL, MLB, and NBA are at the pinnacle because nobody else in the world plays those sports. Yah, a few here and there dabble in it, but let’s be honest, soccer and cricket are really their games. Therefore, in a sample of 1, America is #1. People talking about MLS being top five in the world 😂😂😂😂😂 ... how about being top in North America first? In 25 years, not one CCL title to show. Not one! Reality check people. MLS teams have won the CCL's predecessor twice. That doesn't mean there isn't a gap (LigaMX is the undisputed king of the region), but let's get our facts straight. Also, imagine thinking "nobody else in the world" plays basketball. Kent and Greatest Cockney Rip Off 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmPappy Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 (edited) I stand corrected: In 19 years, not one CCL title. I didn’t say nobody else in the world plays basketball. Let’s get our facts straight. I said that if they play basketball, they’re primary sport is something else. Edited February 28, 2020 by IAmPappy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 $600-$900 tv deal for MLS will change a lot of my views on the league. Seems unlikely based on average viewership of 200-300k, even if they are all 18-30 year old millionaires tuning in. I did hear Europe is watching MLS, but have never seen any data to support this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocket Robin Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) February 27, 2020 York 9 FC Fan Forum and Kit Reveal night. All the audio from the presentation and Q&A. MC Luke Wileman with Angus McNab, Jimmy Brennan and Paul Stalteri. Lots of pictures too! http://www.rocketrobinsoccerintoronto.com/reports20/20york020.htm Finally an answer to why York has no home games after Labour Day. Could be trouble if York makes the post season. Edited February 29, 2020 by Rocket Robin Lofty, cronaldo7, to70 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 And MLS tv ratings were down YoY in 2019. MLS on Spanish tv has also higher average ratings than English tv. But I don't believe Spanish networks are going to be paying up for MLS rights when liga MX gets 4-5x more along with some other leagues and national team matches. Plus MLS playoff ratings were lower than regular season ratings in 2019. This shows MLS doesn’t have a solid foundation of hardcore fans. With 40%- 50%+ of MLS teams making the playoffs means the regular season isn't as compelling to watch as the Euro league matches. The quality in the bottom half is also poor which means only hard core locals are only watching. No relegation means no need to watch to worry about facing the true agony of defeat. The saving grace has been that MLS rights are bundled with US & Mexican national team rights via SUM. So they have been subsidizing MLS. IAmPappy, Bbeto and Ams1984 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 3 hours ago, red card said: And MLS tv ratings were down YoY in 2019. MLS on Spanish tv has also higher average ratings than English tv. But I don't believe Spanish networks are going to be paying up for MLS rights when liga MX gets 4-5x more along with some other leagues and national team matches. I'm not aware that MLS is on any Spanish tv channel. Up to 2 years ago I watched on Eurosport. They tended to show matches that could be live just after midnight. We rarely got west coast though I did enjoy catching glimpses of the Curva and could hear Zach leading chants. I doubt many Spaniards had similar motivations. youllneverwalkalone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 17 hours ago, IAmPappy said: NFL, NHL, MLB, and NBA are at the pinnacle because nobody else in the world plays those sports. 16 hours ago, RS said: Also, imagine thinking "nobody else in the world" plays basketball. 16 hours ago, IAmPappy said: I didn’t say nobody else in the world plays basketball. Kent, IAmPappy, Greatest Cockney Rip Off and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IAmPappy Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 😂😂😂 Okay, you got me there. That Obama thing never gets old. But in my own defense, I did follow-up that very sentence with some context: “Yah, a few here and there dabble in it,” I know for example, that China does much more the dabble in basketball, but point taken. RS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 7 minutes ago, IAmPappy said: 😂😂😂 Okay, you got me there. That Obama thing never gets old. But in my own defense, I did follow-up that very sentence with some context: “Yah, a few here and there dabble in it,” I know for example, that China does much more the dabble in basketball, but point taken. It's actually no 1 in a few other countries (Lithuania, and if you scoff you'll really put your foot in it) and clear no 2 in maybe 20-30 countries. Or more. However the point is that the US leagues are THE first division for certain sports. Even where you're mistaken you are also right, in that those leagues gather world talent in those sports. Basketball precisely is where the gap is narrowing, i large part because other countries develop bb players the way they do footballers. But it is not like footie, where the world top flight player pool can be found in maybe 7-10 leagues (not including MLS) and spread over maybe 80 countries,with the US down near the tail. Bbeto, youllneverwalkalone and IAmPappy 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: I'm not aware that MLS is on any Spanish tv channel. Up to 2 years ago I watched on Eurosport. They tended to show matches that could be live just after midnight. We rarely got west coast though I did enjoy catching glimpses of the Curva and could hear Zach leading chants. I doubt many Spaniards had similar motivations. I should have been more specific. I was referring to Spanish language tv in the US like Univison, TUDN, Unimas, Fox & ESPN Deportes. Football ratings on these channels is like hockey on tv in Canada. Put something on, there is always some base that will watch it. That's one of the main reasons why MLS ratings on Spanish language tv in the US is higher than English tv but it's not something to get excited about. There is a reason why Mexicans refer to MLS as a "cementary of the stars" league. Edited February 29, 2020 by red card Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 I mean there are double the number of Hispanics in the US to the total population of Canada and they can only draw sub 300k: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Major_League_Soccer_on_television Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Any early predictions for this upcoming season? I am predicting the golden boot winner will be Jair Cordova Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 Said it a few times, but I think Zajac picks up where Borges left off -wins a bunch of hardware (i.e. er, I mean, indigenous art) and then transfers to Europe. Shortdutchcanuck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadOnMondays Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 1 hour ago, deschamp86 said: Any early predictions for this upcoming season? I am predicting the golden boot winner will be Jair Cordova I agree. I'm not one of those people who think Malonga was useless, etc, but he did waste a lot of chances and it looks like Cordova might be more of a natural finisher. I think Forge are going to struggle unless they make a few additions - I'm a little surprised that they haven't signed anyone from the 21st player pool. I'd love to see them sign Adebayo Akinfenwa lol deschamp86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 54 minutes ago, SadOnMondays said: I agree. I'm not one of those people who think Malonga was useless, etc, but he did waste a lot of chances and it looks like Cordova might be more of a natural finisher. I think Forge are going to struggle unless they make a few additions - I'm a little surprised that they haven't signed anyone from the 21st player pool. I'd love to see them sign Adebayo Akinfenwa lol I think they are going about it the right way. They were a top team last season, retained their core (minus Borges) and I feel like Bobby is going to give chances to the Sigma kids/give chances to other players to step up this year (Novak, Zajac, Choiniere etc). If they start to fall behind Cavalry and lose ground to York, then they will be able to add a player later SadOnMondays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SadOnMondays Posted March 2, 2020 Share Posted March 2, 2020 ^ I'm surprised they added Monslave actually. I still feel Forge is a bit thin at centre forward - I like Anthony Novak and like what he does in terms of hold up and positional play, but don't see him contributing a ton goal wise. gator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 8 hours ago, SadOnMondays said: ^ I'm surprised they added Monslave actually. I was a bit too, but I guess if Henry goes down injured, they don't want to toss in a young keeper that isn't ready Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 8 hours ago, SadOnMondays said: I still feel Forge is a bit thin at centre forward - I like Anthony Novak and like what he does in terms of hold up and positional play, but don't see him contributing a ton goal wise. Novak scored 6 goals in 1,113 minutes last season. If he could keep up that rate and play as many minutes as Terran Campbell for example, he would have had 12, which would have put him at second in scoring behind only Borges toontownman and DrummingInMySleep 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_M Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Thats a spot that should go to a keeper out of college or semi pro SadOnMondays 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lofty said: Wouldn't those additional minutes have to be played against last year's Valour defence though? 😀 I didn't realize half of his goals were against Valour lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Lofty said: More than half I believe. 😄 Yep. Missed that he had a brace against them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 27 minutes ago, deschamp86 said: Novak scored 6 goals in 1,113 minutes last season. If he could keep up that rate and play as many minutes as Terran Campbell for example, he would have had 12, which would have put him at second in scoring behind only Borges Yes but he only gets to play Winnipeg 4 times though. deschamp86, Mikmacdo and Cheeta 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stouffvillain Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 I saw in the Jonathan David thread that the Belgian league puts a golden tiger on the back of the jersey of the leading goal scorer of the league, I think that's a pretty cool idea. Clubs could auction the jerseys off afterwards or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 Golden Beaver or Bear ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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