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Good to see this in Montreal. Has anyone catalogued all the Supporter’s Groups in non-CPL markets? I know of a few, but would be interesting to see the full list, and ideally, a rough membership size. Stay safe out there.

Why isn’t this thread dropping into the abyss of the forum list ...

“Ultras” 😂😂😂 More like “self-entitled cry-babies”. And their twitter bio does everything possible to alienate the club. Good to see actual supporters calling BS on that.

Kent, I’m only now discovering this thread. I can tell that you have a passion for this. I confess that I have not read every post. How is the ranking/rating calculated? Is it ELO based? Don’t bother explaining it if it’s already captures somewhere in this thread— just point me to the entry date. Thanks for doing this!

You guys so quiet here. You just got a kick-ass kit, and ... crickets.

Isn’t this why a third kit was invented? You have your home kit, and you have a light road kit and a dark road kit. On the road, you use whatever clashes less with your opposition’s home kit. At least, that’s my completely uninformed conclusion from watching EPL.

100% agreed. I'm all-in with your comments regarding the Boot. Unless we get a sudden grassroots movement for "The Belt & The Overripe Banana" or something like that, we'll probably just pick 3-4 names and take a vote. This topic has dragged longer than I anticipated, and I apologize for that. However, I'm intrigued by your other comment about awarding a proper "trophy", not for the Boot (or over-ripe banana, or whatever), but for the Belt. Hear me out for a minute ... Imagine a proper, large, glorious Belt, either backed by a corporate sponsor, or financed by the fans (Voyageurs?). My thought is that the league's team/equipment managers would be the Belt caretakers. It would be one more item that equipment managers carry around to road trips. Nothing to do with players. Say for example, Wanderers just got the Belt from Pacific. The equipment managers would quietly exchange the Belt immediately after the game. The next morning, on the Wanderers website, we would see a picture of the equipment manager, or the team's physio, or the team's marketing guy, or a few Wanderers supports, lifting the CPL Championship Belt in triumph. That's it, no media, no hype, no players. Just a little recognition for all the great people that run and support these great teams across the country. Even the players would get behind this because they would be motivated to win the Belt for their clubs/supporters without all the added baggage of appearances. Think about what happened today at Watford FC. This morning, the goliath, Liverpool FC, rolled into town. I'm not tracking this, but having gone ~400 days without a loss, I'm going to speculated that Liverpool were the defending EPL Belt champions. Watford is fighting to avoid relegation, so any 3-points from any match will help, BUT this was Liverpool! THE Liverpool that is 20+ points clear of second, and the defending Belt Champion. Final Watford 3-0 Liverpool. Now imagine Sunday morning, on the Watford website, a dozen Watford supporters, rabid, lifting the EPL Belt! It's these little victories that will keep fans engaged, motivated, and inspired during a long season. Now imagine the Crystal Palace fans, as they look forward to next weekend, when they face and try to dethrone the defending Belt Champs. Neither of these teams are going to win the league, but the fans can enjoy a few minor victories along the way. Just an idea.

Better have someone look at your closet. Closets have been know to shrink clothes 😉

😂😂😂 Okay, you got me there. That Obama thing never gets old. But in my own defense, I did follow-up that very sentence with some context: “Yah, a few here and there dabble in it,” I know for example, that China does much more the dabble in basketball, but point taken.

So, back to this for a moment. “The Boot” may be getting the boot in this democratic process. Here are some other options: The Belt & The Boot (yah, still like it) The Belt & The Shoelace (humble award) The Belt & The Button (humble, alliterative) The Belt & The Lump-o-Coal The Belt & The Boxers (under-garments) The Belt & The Suspenders (or Garters?) The Belt & The Strap (got the strap) The Belt & The Spoon (common but still good) The Belt & The Galosh (variation on Boot) The Belt & The Welly (short for Wellington) The Belt & The Sandal (specifically, flip-flop) The Belt & The Bonnet The Belt & The Bandana The Belt & The Cummerbund (kinda like that) The Belt & The Pooh (Disney might not like) The Belt & The Bag (holding the bag) The Belt & The (Belt)Buckle (what? Back to this?) The Belt & The Balaclava (hide your face) The Belt & The Sisyphus Rock (google it) Why, yes, I did have a couple of sodas with some buddies tonight, why do you ask? (Let’s get this season started already!)

I stand corrected: In 19 years, not one CCL title. I didn’t say nobody else in the world plays basketball. Let’s get our facts straight. I said that if they play basketball, they’re primary sport is something else.

NFL, NHL, MLB, and NBA are at the pinnacle because nobody else in the world plays those sports. Yah, a few here and there dabble in it, but let’s be honest, soccer and cricket are really their games. Therefore, in a sample of 1, America is #1. People talking about MLS being top five in the world 😂😂😂😂😂 ... how about being top in North America first? In 25 years, not one CCL title to show. Not one! Reality check people.

My (possibly unpopular) opinion: Top third: Wanderers, Pacific, FCE Mid third: Valour, Cavalry Bottom third: Forge, York9

I know that this is a CPL thread, and that it's "kit reveal night", so forgive the tangent ... There is no such things as too many football clubs 😀, but I know you meant "too many clubs at the same level". As you pointed out, in the US context, it's just a matter of implementing hierarchy, for both clubs and players. The roadblock is USSF/SUM/MLS, but that's a cluster too deep to get into here. The US is just too populous with too many markets to have a single 30-40 team league. The best solution I've seen was proposed by Daniel Workman and Chris Kivlehan. Check them out on Twitter. Basically, they propose four regional D1 leagues, with a Champions League-style domestic competition on top for the playoff fans. See picture below, and again, apologies for the tangent.

Regarding the new kit (so far): Wanderers - love it. York9 - pretty good. Forge - umm ... okay.