LeoH037 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Ugbo, Larin, and David are still clear... way clear. Unless he stats to find some consistency, then he does not deserve a spot on the WC squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, LeoH037 said: Ugbo, Larin, and David are still clear... way clear. Unless he stats to find some consistency, then he does not deserve a spot on the WC squad. We need to see Ugbo more to say this. From what I have seen he does not combine a lot with other players. I am not sure of his hold-up play. I don't know if he pressures defenders effectively. In the air? Ugbo is basically a finisher, often one touch and in. Cavallini does a bit more, and could be very useful beating up on CBs or being a nuisance late in a match. If he were not scoring at all, I could see your point. But that is not the case now. Sal333 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 I also think it is telling that Ugbo didn’t start the last game for Troyes. He may be playing well but he still has to show more consistently to be considered a clear favourite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 22 minutes ago, TGAA_Star said: Well definitely no debate about it now 7 minutes ago, LeoH037 said: Ugbo, Larin, and David are still clear... way clear. Unless he stats to find some consistency, then he does not deserve a spot on the WC squad. I don't think there's "no debate" but Herdman might give him more of the benefit of the doubt, considering the quality of the MLS team he's on. I think we all know it's David/Larin in one tier followed by Ugbo and Cavallini in the next tier down, with another drop at forward following that. Cavallini can't be bad (like he's been the last few years) but even if he's a bit inconsistent he'll probably still make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoH037 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 9 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: We need to see Ugbo more to say this. From what I have seen he does not combine a lot with other players. I am not sure of his hold-up play. I don't know if he pressures defenders effectively. In the air? Ugbo is basically a finisher, often one touch and in. Cavallini does a bit more, and could be very useful beating up on CBs or being a nuisance late in a match. If he were not scoring at all, I could see your point. But that is not the case now. true, but despite looking "off" at times, Ugbo is still making things happen on a below average team in a better league, which joined halfway through the season, which in itself is not easy. If Troyes stays up, he will have been a big reason for that. And with 2 goals so far in the season... that's not quite the definition of "consistency". As it stands, even if he makes the squad, there is no reason Lucas should get playing time over any of the other 3 strikes on the squad, barring injury. 8 minutes ago, Watchmen said: I don't think there's "no debate" but Herdman might give him more of the benefit of the doubt, considering the quality of the MLS team he's on. I think we all know it's David/Larin in one tier followed by Ugbo and Cavallini in the next tier down, with another drop at forward following that. Cavallini can't be bad (like he's been the last few years) but even if he's a bit inconsistent he'll probably still make it. yeah... sorry, IMO Cavallini is a tier below that. Unnamed Trialist 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, LeoH037 said: true, but despite looking "off" at times, Ugbo is still making things happen on a below average team in a better league, which joined halfway through the season, which in itself is not easy. If Troyes stays up, he will have been a big reason for that. And with 2 goals so far in the season... that's not quite the definition of "consistency". As it stands, even if he makes the squad, there is no reason Lucas should get playing time over any of the other 3 strikes on the squad, barring injury. yeah... sorry, IMO Cavallini is a tier below that. I think Herdman can go a long way by starting Ike vs. Iran. We need to see him for more than just a few minutes. And not vs. a minor rival like Curaçao. In fact he's the squad member we are less clear about, he's just gotten scraps. Addona and Sal333 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeoH037 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 At this point if I take Cavallini, I take him to close games, i.e. get him in the late 70 min mark, and appoint him the task of CONCACAFING the hell out of the opposing team until the end of the game (maybe allow a yellow here and there if the trade off is worth it hehe) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 22 minutes ago, LeoH037 said: yeah... sorry, IMO Cavallini is a tier below that. I mean, that's fine. I think my main point is that if you're not taking Cavallini you have to figure out who you'd take instead, and I don't think that's clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 We have these conversations way too early! Let's see him keep it up first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 3 hours ago, TGAA_Star said: Yeah well that remains to be seen Lmao. You’re killing me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) Just saw what he did watching the Caps/Quakes highlights yesterday, he needs to keep this up and if he continues playing like that, he not only goes goes to Qatar but he also gives the Caps a chance of having a respectable campaign. Edited May 16, 2022 by Macksam Sal333, TGAA_Star, Obinna and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchryan11 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Watchmen said: I mean, that's fine. I think my main point is that if you're not taking Cavallini you have to figure out who you'd take instead, and I don't think that's clear. jebbison tore up league one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 3 hours ago, Mitchryan11 said: jebbison tore up league one 7 goals in 18 League One matches, while very good for an 18-year old, is not quite "tearing it up." Watchmen, Corazon, king1010 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, LeoH037 said: true, but despite looking "off" at times, Ugbo is still making things happen on a below average team in a better league, which joined halfway through the season, which in itself is not easy. If Troyes stays up, he will have been a big reason for that. And with 2 goals so far in the season... that's not quite the definition of "consistency". As it stands, even if he makes the squad, there is no reason Lucas should get playing time over any of the other 3 strikes on the squad, barring injury. Not three. Four other strikers. You're forgetting Akinola. After seeing him against Orlando, I'd say He's rounding into shape and will probably start TFC's next game. It's a five horse race: David, Larin, Akinola, Ugbo and Cavallini. And to be honest it wouldn't surprise me one bit if all five make it. Herdman had David play as #10 in a few WC qualifying games. Depending on what will happen with Oso and Mitrovic, he may again use David as a #10. Edited May 16, 2022 by Sal333 Ivan, PegCityCam and costarg 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 7 hours ago, Mitchryan11 said: jebbison tore up league one Cavalini is a guy who “tore up” Liga MX a couple of years ago with respectable stats in a very tough environment. I am cheering Jebbison on and hope he commits to Canada, but let’s not overstate the impact of scoring in the 3rd tier of English soccer. Cav may not have transitioned that well to MLS but he is still a guy who brings a lot - and I think it is premature to think he has been displaced by a guy who can’t make the starting 11 in a Championship team (and I know Laryea is in the same situation but he is already an established CMNT player who has shown many times what he can do for us). PegCityCam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchryan11 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 12 hours ago, SthMelbRed said: 7 goals in 18 League One matches, while very good for an 18-year old, is not quite "tearing it up." and still led burtion albion in scoring after being recalled by the blades, hes just not getting the opportunities with the blades because of their premier league push Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchryan11 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 8 hours ago, dyslexic nam said: Cavalini is a guy who “tore up” Liga MX a couple of years ago with respectable stats in a very tough environment. I am cheering Jebbison on and hope he commits to Canada, but let’s not overstate the impact of scoring in the 3rd tier of English soccer. Cav may not have transitioned that well to MLS but he is still a guy who brings a lot - and I think it is premature to think he has been displaced by a guy who can’t make the starting 11 in a Championship team (and I know Laryea is in the same situation but he is already an established CMNT player who has shown many times what he can do for us). but ya i agree to bad world cup wasnt in 2023 he most likely would win a roll almost rather have a older more experienced guy in the last forward spot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchryan11 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Jebbi definitely a championship level caliber player though and should be premier league soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Cav with a second very good game in a row. Got the winner on a well-taken PK. Work rate is incredible. Played the full match. He's looking very fit, very determined, very confident. But...he took another yellow and will miss the next match. But I am encouraged by what I've seen these past couple of games. He's making an impact for the Caps, no doubt. narduch, Ivan, GasPed and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 1 minute ago, The Beaver 2.0 said: But...he took another yellow and will miss the next match. I think this is called load management. Shway, The Beaver 2.0, narduch and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 2 hours ago, The Beaver 2.0 said: But...he took another yellow and will miss the next match. But I am encouraged by what I've seen these past couple of games. He's making an impact for the Caps, no doubt. 2 hours ago, jonovision said: I think this is called load management. Yup, Sartini after the match said he was not upset about it. No cross country flight to Charlotte now and he'll be rested for the Calgary game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 Looking like the goods right now. Big plus for the Caps. Obinna and dyslexic nam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 17 hours ago, jonovision said: I think this is called ANGER management. FYP The Beaver 2.0, Cheeta and Obinna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted May 20, 2022 Share Posted May 20, 2022 Made the MLS mid-week Team of the Week. NVsoccer, Kadenge, dyslexic nam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted May 21, 2022 Share Posted May 21, 2022 11 hours ago, narduch said: Made the MLS mid-week Team of the Week. Well earned selection. He is playing very well right now. Ivan, N1ckbr0wn and narduch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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