Corazon Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 31 minutes ago, baulderdash77 said: Mexico is fine. They have tremendous depth at every position compared to other CONCACAF teams. Even with those 4 out they are still large favourites. Absolutely still the favourites with their depth but those are still big losses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 I’m just here waiting for us to announce a pre gold cup friendly. It looks like it won’t happen 😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 When are the 40 man rosters due? Tomorrow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyb Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Corazon said: I know it's been mentioned before already but Lozano may miss through injury, Chicharito apparently as he awaits the birth of his child and Vela might ultimately decline the invitation. Along with Herrera, that leaves 4 big holes in Mexico's roster. They have plenty of firepower to step into those roles but it will make life more difficult for Mexico if all four are not there this summer. https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/soccer/soccer/2019/05/09/will-mexico-stars-carlos-vela-hirving-lozano-arlington-upcoming-matches-att-stadium I hope this isn't a trend developing where the best players choose not to go to the Gold Cup. I welcome a weaker Mexico since we will be playing them, but overall this is bad for the tournament and hence bad for CONCACAF. Ivan, apbsmith, king1010 and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xabuep2 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 54 minutes ago, Alex said: I’m just here waiting for us to announce a pre gold cup friendly. It looks like it won’t happen 😞 Meanwhile Nicaragua will play vs Argentina in San Juan next June 7 .... hamiltonfan and Addona 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 36 minutes ago, johnyb said: I hope this isn't a trend developing where the best players choose not to go to the Gold Cup. I welcome a weaker Mexico since we will be playing them, but overall this is bad for the tournament and hence bad for CONCACAF. Just make it every 4 years. The lure of the GC can be tainted a little when it happens every other year. red card, apbsmith, ted and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, Shway said: Just make it every 4 years. The lure of the GC can be tainted a little when it happens every other year. Or better yet, convince Comnebol (sp?) that a joint Copa Americas held every 4 years (like the euros) would be better for both regions. king1010 and apbsmith 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 51 minutes ago, johnyb said: I hope this isn't a trend developing where the best players choose not to go to the Gold Cup. I welcome a weaker Mexico since we will be playing them, but overall this is bad for the tournament and hence bad for CONCACAF. 13 minutes ago, Shway said: Just make it every 4 years. The lure of the GC can be tainted a little when it happens every other year. This has always been an issue with the Gold Cup being held every two years. For years many countries, particularly Mexico would send their "B" squad to the tournaments in the years that did not qualify directly to the Confederations Cup. If you compare to the squads the year before the Confederations Cup, they are much more competitive than the non-Confederations years . In recent years, USA has won the tournament on these off years as Mexico would send their "B" squad. However, CONCACAF has recently changed this process so that both Gold Cup winners play eachother in a head to head playoff to qualify to Confederations Cup. ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 MAK and Henry getting more love by Warshaw https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/05/14/warshaw-stock-stock-down-usmnt-canmnt-gold-cup-rosters apbsmith 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, Corazon said: However, CONCACAF has recently changed this process so that both Gold Cup winners play eachother in a head to head playoff to qualify to Confederations Cup. And even more recently they've cancelled the Confederations Cup. The last one was in 2017.http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/confederations-cup-cancelled-us-soccer-carlos-cordeiro Corazon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Has anyone used these links to buy tickets yet? https://www.thevoyageurs.org/projects-news/gold-cup-2019-canadian-supporters-tickets-r4/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, nfitz said: And even more recently they've cancelled the Confederations Cup. The last one was in 2017.http://www.sportspromedia.com/news/confederations-cup-cancelled-us-soccer-carlos-cordeiro Yes & I wonder if players are going to continue to reject this tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 2 hours ago, Ivan said: Or better yet, convince Comnebol (sp?) that a joint Copa Americas held every 4 years (like the euros) would be better for both regions. Not sure about the confederations, bur many South American fans hate this idea. They feel that Concacaf would be getting the bigger gain and that they should merge the WCQs if they merge the Copa America too. Of course, you could debate that they’re would be a larger cash incentive for them, which would attract the federations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 Anyone else think we have a chance to pick points off Mexico here? I mean, yes they are deep, but it's also a one-off game and we have an x-factor in Davies. My concern though is that we steal a point (or dare I dream...3) points from Mexico, and they turn around and use that experience to figure us out in the semifinal and knock us out. Teams shouldn't have to face each other twice unless it's in the final. Shway, MM3/MM2/MM and apbsmith 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, Obinna said: Anyone else think we have a chance to pick points off Mexico here? I mean, yes they are deep, but it's also a one-off game and we have an x-factor in Davies. My concern though is that we steal a point (or dare I dream...3) points from Mexico, and they turn around and use that experience to figure us out in the semifinal and knock us out. Teams shouldn't have to face each other twice unless it's in the final. I'd be happy to play them twice. Addona and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 minute ago, admin said: I'd be happy to play them twice. Me too....in the final 😁 Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 21 minutes ago, Obinna said: Me too....in the final 😁 Wouldn't it be the semi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 7 minutes ago, admin said: Wouldn't it be the semi? Yes it would, which was my point. My point was that it shouldn't be that way. The group winners and runner-ups should be crossing over to the other side of the bracket, but they never set the GC up this way. ted, apbsmith, shamrock and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 The GC is set up so that the US and Mexico can only play in the finals and not before. It’s a really bad setup. king1010, Obinna, A_Gagne and 4 others 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 1 hour ago, baulderdash77 said: The GC is set up so that the US and Mexico can only play in the finals and not before. It’s a really bad setup. Only in CONCACAF. Obinna, apbsmith and A_Gagne 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 (edited) Hector Hererra is a big loss for them, perhaps bigger than Chicharito. Hererra has captained Porto since the 2015-16 season. He's a lead by example player who drives Mexico forward in the middle. He killed us in Vancouver. Guadardo and whoever joins him in the midfield (probably Jonathan Dos Santos, and someone like Dueanas) are good but beatable. The way Kaye is playing right now, with Arfield doing brilliant with Rangers, and Hutchinson still starting for Besiktas, i'd call it even at minimum, at least based on talent (experience playing together perhaps lacking, comparatively). Midfield is where games are won and lost, but both teams should match up competitively. As always, conventional wisdom would suggest our defense may be in trouble against Mexico, but Henry is having a good year, so that is at least something. It wouldn't be all that surprising if he made life difficult for Jimenez. That will be a major battle and may determine the outcome in the end. For as good a season as Jimenez had in the English Premier League, it remains to be seen if he can be the main man for Mexico. No Chicharito, or Lozano, or Herrera, or Vela, or Corona means someone has to step up, and he'll be expected to be "the guy". And finally, David and Cavallini and Davies and Hoilett are going to present challenges to Mexico's defense. We'll get a few chances but they must not be wasted (like Hoilett in Vancouver). It will be a measuring stick to see how good we really are going forward. Can't wait for this game! Edited May 15, 2019 by Obinna johnyb, apbsmith, Corazon and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 6 hours ago, Obinna said: Yes it would, which was my point. My point was that it shouldn't be that way. The group winners and runner-ups should be crossing over to the other side of the bracket, but they never set the GC up this way. The U17s had the same schedule. And I agree it shouldn't be like this Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I Confirmed no Vela, Corona, Herrea, or Chicarito. Lozano named, but injured and hoping to be fit. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Hopefully Canada's 40 man roster is released soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I understand our roster will be shared May 17th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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