Canadian Dual Nationals 2.0 Edition, Chase for the 5 stars

[finchster]

22 hours ago, MauditYvon said:

Jaden De Guzman

I think there is a good chance he is not eligible 

[jordan]

22 hours ago, trc2014 said:

To Farsi’s credit, has he himself actually said anything regarding this?  In reality he might be more inclined to focus on club and the Canada vs. Algeria thing is literally just keeping his options open and something he doesn’t want to focus on at the moment (similar to Hoilett).

 

[Dominic94]

50 minutes ago, finchster said:

I think there is a good chance he is not eligible 

Did Jonathan give up his citizenship? 
 

Apparently Jaeden is highly rated.

[SoCalTransport]

12 hours ago, jordan said:

 

Entourage? Isn't this dude making the league minimum 😜

[Stoppage Time]

13 hours ago, Dominic94 said:

Did Jonathan give up his citizenship? 
 

Apparently Jaeden is highly rated.

This is a job for Molinaro, or the like; talk to Jonathan and Jaeden and discover the lay of the land.

[finchster]

21 hours ago, Dominic94 said:

Did Jonathan give up his citizenship? 
 

Apparently Jaeden is highly rated.

I am not sure about now, but at the time, Holland was restrictive about dual nationalities. If you married someone from another country you could obtain dual nationality, but if you wanted to naturalize in Holland, you had to renounce your old citizenship. I am not 100% sure that Jonathan De Guzman did this, but I am fairly certain based on things he said.

 

Jaden is eligible from a FIFA rules standpoint, but I am not sure if he is or can obtain Canadian citizenship.

Edited May 30, 2023 by finchster

[red card]

16 year old son of Henrik Sedin is a MF with the Whitecaps academy. His short-term goals are to play for the Caps and a national team. Though, he got obessed with the sport watching Sweden at the 2018 World Cup.

 

[costarg]

1 hour ago, red card said:

Though, he got obessed with the sport watching Sweden at the 2018 World Cup.

 

Just move him to the world soccer page already, I can't deal with these duals anymore!

[An Observer]

3 hours ago, red card said:

16 year old son of Henrik Sedin is a MF with the Whitecaps academy. His short-term goals are to play for the Caps and a national team. Though, he got obessed with the sport watching Sweden at the 2018 World Cup.

 

Caps hate Canada anyway so unlikely he will be successful if he chooses Canada.  On the other hand, if he chooses Sweden...

[gigi riva]

On 5/29/2023 at 9:31 AM, jordan said:

 

Entourage and Agents WtF . Inever knew  MLS players could afford that

[jordan]

Tom Heward-Belle has moved on to Western United, May pick up the number 1 job

 

[Borjans Sweatpants]

 

[Canadian Chuck]

Orange County SC central midfielder Ben Norris has US and Canadian emojis in his Instagram bio.

Recently made his USL Championship (better level than MLS Next Pro) debut which is quite decent for a 16-year-old. Presumably eligible for the U17 World Cup for either US or Canada. Has never been with US youth teams.

[Canadian Chuck]

US goalkeeper depth isn't what it used to be. Outside of Turner their future depth isn't really that better than Canada's. If Odunze gets a run of Championship starts he'll be good enough for the USMNT bench and he's just 20. Hard to see him filing a switch to Canada unless he's the caliber of a Jayson Leutwiler.

Edited July 8, 2023 by Canadian Chuck

[VinceA]

35 minutes ago, Canadian Chuck said:

Orange County SC central midfielder Ben Norris has US and Canadian emojis in his Instagram bio.

Recently made his USL Championship (better level than MLS Next Pro) debut which is quite decent for a 16-year-old. Presumably eligible for the U17 World Cup for either US or Canada. Has never been with US youth teams.

16-year old making his debut might deserve his own thread.

[Canadian Chuck]

No one on the initial 20-player roster for US U17 qualifiers was from a USL setup. All from MLS or Europe. So a good chance he is being overlooked by the American federation rather than they are aware of him.

[dyslexic nam]

1 hour ago, Canadian Chuck said:

US goalkeeper depth isn't what it used to be. Outside of Turner their future depth isn't really that better than Canada's. If Odunze gets a run of Championship starts he'll be good enough for the USMNT bench and he's just 20. Hard to see him filing a switch to Canada unless he's the caliber of a Jayson Leutwiler.

Maybe not, but Gaga Slonina is being groomed as the US national team keeper for the next decade.  Maybe he stalls but this is a guy who signed a pro contract at 14, was playing as a starting keeper in MLS at 17, and has already made his national team debut.  Keeper is one of those positions where a guy like Slonina could relegate another keeper to backup for a decade.  That can be a deterrent for a guy who wants a better shot at the starting job.  

[jordan]

Pascal Leatherman (Carlos’ twin bro) is also in the Minnesota academy, is a RB 

[Atlantic]

On 7/5/2023 at 1:28 AM, Atlantic said:

Marsel Bibishkov (Juventus U17 / 2007) - ST, current Bulgarian youth international originally from Toronto 
https://www.transfermarkt.us/marsel-bibishkov/profil/spieler/1074383

Will cross post into here 

[Atlantic]

Antoni Klukowski (2007) has joined Pogoń Szczecin's B team from Legia Warsaw U17s. 

Ruben De Sa (2006) has joined FC Famalicao U19 from Vitoria SC U17s.

Ibrihima Higazy (2006) has announced he is leaving Rayo Vallecano. 

Edited July 8, 2023 by Atlantic

[Stryker911]

12 hours ago, Borjans Sweatpants said:

 

Odunze has spent the last month or so in Canada, including Calgary and Vancouver. At one point he posted on Instagram some videos training at a park with Pepple. I was kind of hoping we called him at the 3rd string to replace Borjan in camp.

[Canadian Chuck]

4 hours ago, dyslexic nam said:

Maybe not, but Gaga Slonina is being groomed as the US national team keeper for the next decade.  Maybe he stalls but this is a guy who signed a pro contract at 14, was playing as a starting keeper in MLS at 17, and has already made his national team debut.  Keeper is one of those positions where a guy like Slonina could relegate another keeper to backup for a decade.  That can be a deterrent for a guy who wants a better shot at the starting job.  

Definitely a good point.

Odunze is probably good enough to eventually reach a point where he gets invited to a B-team Gold Cup or low-level Nations League qualifier against a minnow, without having a clear chance at the USMNT #1. The US has one of the broadest call-up lists anywhere, handing them out like candy. And he's already been in multiple USMNT friendly camps. Would have to decide if taking that risk is worth it to possibly become their next Ethan Horvath or Sean Johnson.

[Canadian Chuck]

2 hours ago, Stryker911 said:

Odunze has spent the last month or so in Canada, including Calgary and Vancouver. At one point he posted on Instagram some videos training at a park with Pepple. I was kind of hoping we called him at the 3rd string to replace Borjan in camp.

Odunze played for the US at a youth World Cup so unfortunately would have to file a one-time switch with FIFA just to be named to a camp, which one can assume he isn't ready to do yet

[Shway]

4 hours ago, dyslexic nam said:

Maybe not, but Gaga Slonina is being groomed as the US national team keeper for the next decade.  Maybe he stalls but this is a guy who signed a pro contract at 14, was playing as a starting keeper in MLS at 17, and has already made his national team debut.  Keeper is one of those positions where a guy like Slonina could relegate another keeper to backup for a decade.  That can be a deterrent for a guy who wants a better shot at the starting job.  

And this is key for Canada. 

Because let's be honest, the number 1 and number 2 isn't solidified after Borjan calls it quits...and thats soon.
Some say Crepeau but (God willing) he can get back to playing the way he used too. And St. Clair although great, hasn't been able to showcase to say that "yea thats mine"....

So Canada might look like the "easy road" to Odunze vs the "trials and tribulations" of the USA road.

[Dominic94]

Chicago also had a replacement for Slonina who is also the same age and highly rated, they turned down transfer offers for him before he even played a game with the first team. I also believe they have a highly rated GK in Barca’s academy in Spain… 
 

I’ll say this again, people will be floored over the next 5 years at the amount of high end American prospects that are coming. There are many highly rated duals and they will lose quite a few of them for various reasons.