VinceA Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: The tabloids in Portugal claim: 1) The muscular problem (relapse) that kept him out of the squad last weekend will keep him out of the Moreirense squad tomorrow. It's almost certain that he will not play. 2) He has been called to the #CanMNT despite his injury. --- My own speculation is that he won't be healthy in time for the Costa Rica match but Herdman and his team feel like he could play a role vs Jamaica or Panama. That scenario would leave us without Vitória, Henry and Adekugbe vs Costa Rica. The only other player I can see playing in the middle for Canada is Joel Waterman and he's only played there a couple times for Montreal and hasn't gotten a cap yet. Wonder what Herdman will do. Edited March 19, 2022 by VinceA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Cornelius??? Hmmm I wonder if Wheels is seeing this, having second thoughts about slamming fans hoping to recruit another dual CB?? This doubly makes me angry about the small camps with minimum numbers called. king1010, Club Linesman, Corazon and 3 others 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, VinceA said: The only other player I can see playing in the middle for Canada is Joel Waterman and he's only played there a couple times for Montreal and hasn't gotten a cap yet. Wonder what Herdman will do. Wouldnt we go with cornelius and kennedy? Cornelius have a really good run of form in Greece. Sal333 and Ruffian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, king1010 said: Wouldnt we go with cornelius and kennedy? Cornelius have a really good run of form in Greece. Definitely an option, but in a back three (if Herdman runs this) off the top of my head I only remember Vitoria and Henry playing in the center. Has Cornelius played there before? I thought he plays on the left rotating with Miller and Kennedy. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
costarg Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Y'all forgeting the obvious solution...... Tom Holmes baby! Olympique_de_Marseille 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted March 20, 2022 Share Posted March 20, 2022 Confirmed as still injured. Not in the starting XI or on the bench for Moreirense's match that starts in 45 minutes. Not in the lineup at all. 😭 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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VinceA Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 18 hours ago, Gian-Luca said: Really enlightening and from his perspective you understand a lot more of his mindset. No calls to the U17 level (also mind you this is pre-TFC so it can't be MLS bias or anything) and the only time the CSA approached him was once Portugal called him up after only three months with Porto. I could see why he was not really interested in Canada after the resources Portugal began investing into him. They don't get too much into the mid 2010s but from the sounds of it (and this seems to be sort of recurring when it comes to Cavallini and Hoilett) many of these guys were simply not convinced or impressed by whatever project the CSA was putting out at the time. I think it is easy to tell players that "oh you need to play for the shirt and representing Canada is important nothing else matters" without knowing everything that goes into that. It's easy for us to yell at players for not committing earlier or sacrificing to fly across the ocean and play for us without realizing maybe it was a really shitty and negative environment the players would be joining at every camp. De Ro's book is very in depth on him talking about how shitty the CSA was when he was in his prime and how national team camps were often pretty brutal and not enjoyable (your prize for being POTY was a gift card ffs). All the players today talk about what a fun time it is and Vitoria even said he liked the project in 2017 but it is now even so much better after Herdman came in. Bison44, Nate3322, Xavier. and 7 others 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTransport Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 I don’t know if anyone else agrees, but Canada really missed Steven’s height during this window, their back line looked really small and not the same in my opinion. Kadenge, Approve My Account Pls, Corazon and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 minute ago, SoCalTransport said: I don’t know if anyone else agrees, but Canada really missed Steven’s height during this window, their back line looked really small and not the same in my opinion. I don't think it was necessarily because of Vitoria. They were fine against Jamaica. I don't get why they put Atiba back there when you have an in form Cornelius as an option. sose, A Different Perspective, Sal333 and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gator Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 8 minutes ago, SoCalTransport said: I don’t know if anyone else agrees, but Canada really missed Steven’s height during this window, their back line looked really small and not the same in my opinion. Agree, neither of the goals in Central America possibly would have happened, SV would have headed those balls away in all likelihood! lamptern and Sal333 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 hours ago, SoCalTransport said: I don’t know if anyone else agrees, but Canada really missed Steven’s height during this window, their back line looked really small and not the same in my opinion. It's more than his height. He reads the plays well and just helps nip these kind of attacks in the bud. gator, costarg and Sal333 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ECW Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 2 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: It's more than his height. He reads the plays well and just helps nip these kind of attacks in the bud. Perhaps our most important player in the sense that we have no one who can properly replace him. costarg and h coach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalTransport Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 7 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: It's more than his height. He reads the plays well and just helps nip these kind of attacks in the bud. I agree, he is a lot more technical than someone like Henry who is also tall… Olympique_de_Marseille and costarg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 He has played really well for us, leading the back line. I hope the injury is just precautionary and not seriously long term. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MCa Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 8 hours ago, ECW said: Perhaps our most important player in the sense that we have no one who can properly replace him. Kennedy? costarg and A Different Perspective 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 My issue is if the guy was hurt why didn't Herdman just call up another CB. I don't like Hutch at CB because it's like we're using him at 75% instead of 100% and I'd rather, even if he can do a job better than a natural CB there, the natural CB has a chance to get gametime and grow. Approve My Account Pls, canuckgbp, A Different Perspective and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasPed Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 14 minutes ago, MCa said: Kennedy? No, Vitoria. At LCB, Kamal has done a good job rotating with Kennedy, and Cornelius is waiting in the wings, and they all have somewhat similar characteristics. At RCB we have Doneil, who is ok but very different from Vitoria, and then... ...Atiba? ECW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueseeka Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 11 hours ago, SoCalTransport said: I don’t know if anyone else agrees, but Canada really missed Steven’s height during this window, their back line looked really small and not the same in my opinion. This seemed to be their biggest issue defending. The struggled off of defending set piece/ corner kicks. Most of their offense came off quick counters and I felt they struggled when they had a set piece or corner kick. ECW 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, narduch said: My conspiracy theory is that Vitoria's injury is worse than they are letting on. Lol, I don't subscribe to this because we would have heard something from the club or the Portuguese tabloids. 58 minutes ago, VinceA said: My issue is if the guy was hurt why didn't Herdman just call up another CB. Agreed. I think he hoped Vitória would be ready but he was quite there. Herdman was naive not to bring in another CB. Edited March 31, 2022 by Olympique_de_Marseille Bison44 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 1 hour ago, VinceA said: My issue is if the guy was hurt why didn't Herdman just call up another CB. 33 minutes ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Agreed. I think he hoped Vitória would be ready but he was quite there. Herdman was naive not to bring in another CB. Herdman did call another CB in. He just didn't use him. Kent, johnyb, king1010 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasPed Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 48 minutes ago, RS said: Herdman did call another CB in. He just didn't use him. Well, he actually called in two injured RCB's and three very healthy LCB's. And then when (predictably) he didn't have an RCB who could play, he chose to put a 39 year old midfielder there... Corazon and ECW 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 6 hours ago, GasPed said: Well, he actually called in two injured RCB's and three very healthy LCB's. And then when (predictably) he didn't have an RCB who could play, he chose to put a 39 year old midfielder there... Are you saying Cornelius is hurt? I thought he was healthy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GasPed Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Kent said: Are you saying Cornelius is hurt? I thought he was healthy? Cornelius is perfectly fine I think. But he plays LCB, which makes him a dime a dozen on this team, and when you add in the fact that Herdman seems to have forgotten he's on the roster, it's very hard to know just how healthy he is, or whether he actually even exists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted April 1, 2022 Share Posted April 1, 2022 Consensus: Cornelius should have played in our back line vs. Panama. Atiba could have sat or started in the middle. We would have done just as well with Miller instead of Tajon, a pure winger with a striker like Cav, or Igbo, who can use his head, good combo. It was really rather simple, and then Herdman would have just a few more key pieces really on board and in the mix. Manage your damn roster, coach. That includes being careful with the older guys, who we need to have replacements for and in the right mindset to step in. It also means not pulling these dumbass Brym-Kone moves, which are capricious and plant seeds of doubt into a squad led to believe that their club play does mean something for NT merits. MM3/MM2/MM and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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