Unnamed Trialist Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 (edited) 5 hours ago, frmr said: Sexist. /s Don't think so, he has a better profile than the person who bailed on us, I agree. Edit, sorry: just realized what /s means, all cool. Edited February 29 by Unnamed Trialist The Beaver 2.0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 Okay, for starters, yes he's cute! (My wife agrees 😉). And, second, I like the profile, experience, pedigree, and youthfulness of this hire. He seems ambitious, which is good, and he should be able to put all that high-powered psych education to good use, too. The big question: Will the board let him do the job that needs to be done? Unless he utterly craps the bed--not likely--then I see the first phase as a three-year plan. I wish him well!! Unnamed Trialist, king1010, toontownman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I like that he's got experience with Golf Canada, a sport that is popular globally, one that Canada has historically underachieved in, but is now in a bit of a gold era. Sounds familiar... Canuckia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 3 minutes ago, The Beaver 2.0 said: Okay, for starters, yes he's cute! (My wife agrees 😉). And, second, I like the profile, experience, pedigree, and youthfulness of this hire. He seems ambitious, which is good, and he should be able to put all that high-powered psych education to good use, too. The big question: Will the board let him do the job that needs to be done? Unless he utterly craps the bed--not likely--then I see the first phase as a three-year plan. I wish him well!! Can he choose a new coach in 4 weeks? No country in the world does what we are doing, dicking around for months. It's shameful. Every soccer federation in the world have candidates in line and thought of, they all have a short list and manage it in real time. In most European countries, in S America, anywhere pretty well, they choose a coach in 10 days to 3 weeks. Or have a caretaker while they wait for their man to come free of his contract. If the guy is starting from scratch and needs to do a CSA meditation course to get up to speed we're screwed. We are slowly getting close to being "a soccer nation", in many ways, we have a Cup thanks to the Voyageurs, a league, we are in Concacaf competitions, we are starting to build a club pyramid, but we lag with the national programs, the kids, camps, scouting, coaching, the technical structure is crappy. We don't have decent youth coaches. Bev is good, thankfully, seems she can put a bad WC behind her and rebuild, credit to her. But the overall system of coaching is weak. Which is partially on Herdman who was hired to fix it, it was in his job description in fact. Nello, Kadenge, Borjans Sweatpants and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 16 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Don't think so, he has a better profile than the person who bailed on us, I agree. I agree as well, it was a lame joke. I'm actually very excited about this hiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 3 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Can he choose a new coach in 4 weeks? No country in the world does what we are doing, dicking around for months. It's shameful. Every soccer federation in the world have candidates in line and thought of, they all have a short list and manage it in real time. In most European countries, in S America, anywhere pretty well, they choose a coach in 10 days to 3 weeks. Or have a caretaker while they wait for their man to come free of his contract. If the guy is starting from scratch and needs to do a CSA meditation course to get up to speed we're screwed. We are slowly getting close to being "a soccer nation", in many ways, we have a Cup thanks to the Voyageurs, a league, we are in Concacaf competitions, we are starting to build a club pyramid, but we lag with the national programs, the kids, camps, scouting, coaching, the technical structure is crappy. We don't have decent youth coaches. Bev is good, thankfully, seems she can put a bad WC behind her and rebuild, credit to her. But the overall system of coaching is weak. Which is partially on Herdman who was hired to fix it, it was in his job description in fact. Yeah, fundamental infrastructure is sorely lagging. Somehow we've been punching above our weight despite real systemic liabilities, but over performance is not sustainable over the longer term without proper structures and supports, including the development of quality coaches throughout the program. Incredible amount of work for Blue to do: where does one start? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 2 minutes ago, The Beaver 2.0 said: Yeah, fundamental infrastructure is sorely lagging. Somehow we've been punching above our weight despite real systemic liabilities, but over performance is not sustainable over the longer term without proper structures and supports, including the development of quality coaches throughout the program. Incredible amount of work for Blue to do: where does one start? Finding funding. Which he seems to have been good at at his previous stops. Ottawafan and Canuckia 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 9 minutes ago, frmr said: I agree as well, it was a lame joke. I'm actually very excited about this hiring. I apologised on my previous post, didn't catch the /s. All good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acid-Tone Posted February 29 Share Posted February 29 I'll echo the sentiment that his age, experience, and lack of previous CSA ties seem to be exactly what we needed for that position. I gotta admit though, it might take me a while to get used to the name, as Kevin Blue sounds more like the way we used to talk about Kevin Pipe's time at the CSA, than a proper name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I'd like to echo what a few others have said. How the fuck was this guy passed over in the original search when he's a far better candidate, on paper, than the other one? cornerkick, Ivan and Borjans Sweatpants 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Watchmen said: Finding funding. Which he seems to have been good at at his previous stops. To state the obvious, it would have to be "funding" that is not Corp sponsorships or other cashflows that fall within the CSA/CSB deal by definition. Its going to be a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said: Bev is good, thankfully, seems she can put a bad WC behind her and rebuild, credit to her. I am reserving judgment on that until after seeing how we perform at the Olympics. Ivan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canuckia Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 1 minute ago, SthMelbRed said: I'd like to echo what a few others have said. How the fuck was this guy passed over in the original search when he's a far better candidate, on paper, than the other one? I don't think he was. I think he came in to the picture after the initial recruiting process. Someone mentioned earlier that Wheeler had said there was some red tape holding back a great candidate for that reason. narduch and SthMelbRed 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) 14 minutes ago, SthMelbRed said: I'd like to echo what a few others have said. How the fuck was this guy passed over in the original search when he's a far better candidate, on paper, than the other one? Lol is that a real question? Cmon let's not be naive Edited March 1 by SpursFlu johnyb, Shway, Admiral Murray and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 minutes ago, Canuckia said: I don't think he was. I think he came in to the picture after the initial recruiting process. Someone mentioned earlier that Wheeler had said there was some red tape holding back a great candidate for that reason. If that's true, then it's very bureaucratic and an example of why decisions/actions take so long with the CSA. Unless Kevin came along after the decision had been made re the GS hire and talks were already under way, but I doubt that. As CEO & GS, I'm hoping that he can cut to the chase and get results/move things forward expediently. Canuckia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borjans Sweatpants Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 Pulling from the Golf Canada release: ”Since returning to Canada in January of 2021, Blue was a driving force to Golf Canada’s vision and impact on Canadian golf. He was instrumental in many of the areas of Golf Canada’s strategic priorities and helped drive several initiatives including First Tee – Canada, National Golf League (NGL), She Plays Golf, Junior Golf Facility Awards, and the evolution of Golf Canada’s Amateur Championships. A strong proponent of municipal and accessible golf, Blue played a key role in Golf Canada’s attention to diversity, equity, inclusion, and safe sport. He also had a significant impact with the Golf Canada Foundation, helping to recruit, build and collaborate with critical program donors.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redpunkfiddle Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 4 hours ago, SpursFlu said: Nice one. But I'm just pointing out that who cares how this person comes across or if he checks mine or yours personal boxes. I don't care if he's a huge jerk or mister nice guy. Let's judge people on the results and not create any unnecessary drama. As long as our national teams win and the CPL flourishes.. thats all that should matter I see. Kent, frmr and dyslexic nam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 3 minutes ago, Redpunkfiddle said: I see. Yes you see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 I wish him the best of Luck , It will not be a easy task and some decsions will not please everybody , He does have fundraising experience and supposdely he did a good job at Golf Canada costarg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattd97 Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 hours ago, SpursFlu said: Lol is that a real question? Cmon let's not be naive Yeah don't be naive. It was clearly affirmative action. How else can you explain how after she left we ended up with *checks notes* a 40 year old straight white guy with a young family. Wait.... narduch, RS, dyslexic nam and 5 others 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 6 minutes ago, Mattd97 said: Yeah don't be naive. It was clearly affirmative action. How else can you explain how after she left we ended up with *checks notes* a 40 year old straight white guy with a young family. Wait.... Yah and hopefully it does the trick because I don't care who does this job as long as it keeps the Whiteheads of the world off their back. Hire Michelle Obama for all I care. Lets just keep the brutal headlines and frivolous lawsuits in the past Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 (edited) Nothing but the best wishes for the man, for all our sakes. It doesn't read as though he's the sort of person who doesn't know what he'd be getting himself into so, a glimmer of hope, maybe, for the future. What am I writting? He knows what he's getting himself into. Oh boy. There's a string of famous last words for you. Right up there with "Hold my beer and watch this!". "Floor it! We can make it!" and "Does this taste funny to you?" Good luck there, buddy. Here's hoping you don't get a stern reality check. Seriously. Edited March 1 by Cheeta toontownman, dyslexic nam, Shway and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 2 hours ago, Mattd97 said: Yeah don't be naive. It was clearly affirmative action. How else can you explain how after she left we ended up with *checks notes* a 40 year old straight white guy with a young family. Wait.... The women's NT hammered away at Crooks from day one, calling her a Bontis yes-girl, and publicly, so they clearly proved they have no concern for such stuff. Hope they tell Westhead that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted March 1 Share Posted March 1 13 hours ago, Joe MacCarthy said: ...We will work with determination to unite all stakeholders behind the common objective of making sure soccer in Canada is successful and growing — from grassroots up through the National Teams. This work includes collaborating across stakeholders to build a stronger commercial and philanthropic structure to support our sport nationally... Found the bolded part a slightly odd way to phrase things. Possible workaround where the CSB deal is concerned, or maybe it's just his NCAA background because that would tend to be more of a factor in that context where donations from alumni are concerned? longlugan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted March 1 Author Share Posted March 1 Lol Shway and dyslexic nam 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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