Olympique_de_Marseille Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Shway said: I will be expecting full customization. Sure. Full "customization". Canuckia and Shway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooterlawrence5 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Canada WNT are Tier 1 with Nike and therefore did get a new kit for Tokyo (whereas MNT were not considered Tier 1 or Tier 2 with Nike). 2023 World Cup Australia/NZ kit discussions between WNT and Nike would have started in 2021 at least. Dominic94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 makes sense, but what doesn’t is that they have these convo separate with the same federation. Meaning someone should’ve forecasted an issue. You say Tier 1, yes I’m quality…but what about sales, or that doesn’t matter? Anyways Im going to assume our young boys are playing qualifying in the same 2021 kits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 10 hours ago, Shway said: makes sense, but what doesn’t is that they have these convo separate with the same federation. Meaning someone should’ve forecasted an issue. You say Tier 1, yes I’m quality…but what about sales, or that doesn’t matter? Anyways Im going to assume our young boys are playing qualifying in the same 2021 kits. Someone likely dropped the ball - maybe one of the reasons the marketing officer was let go last month. Structurally, CSA's limited marketing department and limited expertise about the football kit industry also likely played a role. When the Nike contract was announced a few years ago, the tiering wasn't likely noticed by the CSA. But people really into the world of football kits lamented immediately online that the CSA was going to get screwed with Nike's version of second/third class treatment. Classification by Nike is based on a number of factors including sales & brand value. For instance, Nigeria is Nike Tier 1 because they sold 3 million kits before Russia 2018. If you attended home Canada women's matches since 2013, there were way more people wearing Umbro Canada kits than at men's matches. Cochrane said discussions about the women's kit started soon after the contract was signed but he said nobody at that time till during the latter stages of men's WCQ asked about what's going on with the men's kit. And based on Bontis comments last year, it seemed no one kept close tabs on Nike till after the gold medal win. They seemed to have a hard time getting a meeting with Nike about supply issues but if you're a third tier client getting teamwear, Nike outsources everything to a third party. TOcanadafan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 i kind of wish The CSA stayed with Umbro or gone wiyh a brand like Hummel or Macron narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 34 minutes ago, gigi riva said: i kind of wish The CSA stayed with Umbro or gone wiyh a brand like Hummel or Macron Especially if the deal is worth $0 like Marc Weber mentioned johnyb and Dominic94 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacbru Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 CSA: Ok - we have two teams. We need to divide that by $0 from Nike. What's that? CSA accountant: Infinity. CSA: Oh damn, we need to cut everything. Cheeta, TOcanadafan, masster and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 12 hours ago, Aird25 said: Especially if the deal is worth $0 like Marc Weber mentioned I'm sure the only thought / work that went into the decision to go with Nike over looking at other options was that Bontis thinks Nike is "cool" and would be happy with the free swag that the NIke representative promised. Stryker911, johnyb, Chad_Impact and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 4 hours ago, TOcanadafan said: I'm sure the only thought / work that went into the decision to go with Nike over looking at other options was that Bontis thinks Nike is "cool" and would be happy with the free swag that the NIke representative promised. They gave him a bespoke track suit. Olympique_de_Marseille and TOcanadafan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 New USA kit.....its whatever but it's NEW. Do you think we get a new kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 Anyone else get Cruella de Vil vibes? narduch, MtlMario, Cheeta and 5 others 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 @dyslexic nam it looks like an off-white kit and then they let a 4 year old sprinkle paint on it Jackson Pollock style. dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lansdude Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 I'll take a shitty abstract expressionist kit. I'll take a cubist kit. I'll take a surrealist kit with a melting beaver. Give me something. Olympique_de_Marseille 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 12 minutes ago, Lansdude said: I'll take a surrealist kit with a melting beaver. Give me something. Like Dali meets Canadiana? I'd take that in a heartbeat! Lansdude 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted March 17, 2023 Share Posted March 17, 2023 WC 2026 kit. Olympique_de_Marseille, Nello, narduch and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 (edited) On 2/11/2023 at 10:19 PM, Aird25 said: Especially if the deal is worth $0 like Marc Weber mentioned Is it a different kind of arrangement? Like a percentage of all sales sort of thing? It can't just be 0....otherwise they should be able to easily break out of a contract when one side has no consideration. Edited March 18, 2023 by Macksam johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheeta Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 On 3/17/2023 at 6:50 AM, Shway said: New USA kit.....its whatever but it's NEW. Do you think we get a new kit? (I think somebody lost a bet...) Olympique_de_Marseille 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MtlMario Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 I can not wait till we get a new supplier. narduch and gigi riva 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted March 18, 2023 Share Posted March 18, 2023 1 hour ago, Macksam said: Is it a different kind of arrangement? Like a percentage of all sales sort of thing? It can't just be 0....otherwise they should be able to easily break out of a contract when one side has no consideration. I don’t actually know myself, but I thought I heard that a lot of our sponsorships like Nike and Gatorade don’t actually include any cash. They just supply the actual goods like kits, equipment, drinks, coolers etc for the players/clubs johnyb and narduch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 All I can say is F- Nike How long does this contract run too narduch, Cheeta and Shway 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacbru Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 2 hours ago, gigi riva said: All I can say is F- Nike How long does this contract run too Nike can extend it unilaterally for as long as they want. That clause appeared once in a CSA contract and the numpties can't work the backspace key to get rid of it. grigorio and johnyb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 8 hours ago, kacbru said: Nike can extend it unilaterally for as long as they want. That clause appeared once in a CSA contract and the numpties can't work the backspace key to get rid of it. Is this why that guy gave his resignation?Because of this sheer incompetence? Rougeisthecolour and gigi riva 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 So Kloke touched on this more in the athletic but basically Nike doesn’t pay us and was supposed to at a point. They give us some free gear (hence why it has to be given back after the end of camps because we have to share it with our other teams) and that’s about it. Bontis and Co wanted Nike and negotiated the deal themselves…. Further more other major brands had interest in sponsoring the team… basically CSB thinks that if they had done the deal, we might not have gotten Nike but we would have gotten more gear and more $$, the CSA didn’t negotiate with anyone but Nike. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 45 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: So Kloke touched on this more in the athletic but basically Nike doesn’t pay us and was supposed to at a point. They give us some free gear (hence why it has to be given back after the end of camps because we have to share it with our other teams) and that’s about it. Bontis and Co wanted Nike and negotiated the deal themselves…. Further more other major brands had interest in sponsoring the team… basically CSB thinks that if they had done the deal, we might not have gotten Nike but we would have gotten more gear and more $$, the CSA didn’t negotiate with anyone but Nike. Pretty sure CSB would have gotten us Macron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted March 19, 2023 Share Posted March 19, 2023 (edited) (Double) Edited March 19, 2023 by Macksam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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