Kent Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 (edited) OK, I've looked up the worst case scenario for us. This is what it looks like. -Canada lose by 5 -Haiti v Cuba - tie (or a non-blowout win for one of them) -Curacao, Jamaica, and Martinique draw or win (or a non-blowout loss for Curacao and/or Jamaica) -Bermuda beats Dominican Republic or Dominican Republic wins by 3 -St. Kitts wins -Nicaragua wins by 4, Belize by 6, Montserrat by 8 If all of that happens (or if Canada loses by more than 5 you can knock a goal off the win margins for the other teams) we finish in 12th. Correction: I see now from @Olympique_de_Marseille's thread that if we lose by more, specifically 8 goals or more, then El Salvador can also pass us and still have Jamaica stay ahead of us, given the right scoreline. So 13th is the worst case scenario. Happy scenario. If we draw, or of course win, we are in the top 6, guaranteed. Edited November 21, 2018 by Kent Ruffian and Olympique_de_Marseille 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 12 minutes ago, Kent said: OK, I've looked up the worst case scenario for us. This is what it looks like. -Canada lose by 5 dyslexic nam, Obinna, toontownman and 6 others 3 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 Basically 14 Teams battling for 10 Spots at the Gold Cup 2019, with of course League A & League B on the line Scenarios and Games of each (Predictions) Round 4 Monserrat VS Cayman Islands | Monserrat Win - 9pts total St Kitts and Nevis VS Suriname | St Kitts Win - 9pts total Martinique ?? VS Guadalupe ?? | Martinique Win - 12pts total Nicaragua ?? VS Barbados ?? | Nicaragua Win - 9pts Dominican Republic ?? VS Bermuda ?? | DR Win - 9pts ↪️ Bermuda ends with 6pts Curacao ?? VS Antigua and Barbuda ?? | Curaçao Win - 12 pts Canada ?? VS French Guiana ?? | Canada Win - 12 points ↪️ FG ends with 6pts Belize ?? vs Guyana ?? | Draw ↪️ BZE ends with 7pts and GU ends with 5pts -> Both eliminated 50/50 (Either can win) Haiti ?? (9pts) vs Cuba ?? (9pts) Jamaica ?? (9pts) vs El Salvador ?? (6pts) ___________________________________ Haven’t even mentioned Goal Differencial!! How important it will be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Some good stories in the press on Montserrat. They're pursuing a guy on the books of Manchester United who has two brothers on the books with Arsenal. The latter two are England youth internationals. Obinna and Kent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted November 23, 2018 Share Posted November 23, 2018 Possibly announcing Vancouver as the March CNL game location? ted, johnyb and Blackjack15 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 On 11/23/2018 at 7:02 AM, rob.notenboom said: Possibly announcing Vancouver as the March CNL game location? I mean, for my convenience this would be nice, but I'm a little surprised they'd be coming back to Vancouver so soon after the World Cup fiasco. I guess weather dictates it's one of the few viable venues and Victoria (much as I'd like to see these types of games pushed in to the CPL markets) might be that extra step too far to get the players from Europe to (from both a cost and flight perspective). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhillyJawn-guy Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 You know what would be really funny? The USA losing to Montserrat in the CNL and American fans going berserk. If T&T could upset them, what's stopping Montserrat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 40 minutes ago, Watchmen said: I mean, for my convenience this would be nice, but I'm a little surprised they'd be coming back to Vancouver so soon after the World Cup fiasco. I guess weather dictates it's one of the few viable venues and Victoria (much as I'd like to see these types of games pushed in to the CPL markets) might be that extra step too far to get the players from Europe to (from both a cost and flight perspective). What was the world cup fiasco? Thought vancouver presented itself pretty well? BMO is re sodding which could have played a part in the decisioon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob.notenboom Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 30 minutes ago, king1010 said: What was the world cup fiasco? Thought vancouver presented itself pretty well? BMO is re sodding which could have played a part in the decisioon. Vancouver declined to be part of WC2026. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 All but confirmed, multiple signs pointing to Vancouver hosting the March CNLQ vs FG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 Herdman would like to announce it formally as people didn't take him seriously the first time. ? Maybe this time he will announce it at stadt saputo just to mix it up. hamiltonfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtpc Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) The CONCACAF Disciplinary Committee has ruled that Barbados fielded ineligible players in their first 2 CNLQ matches against Guyana and El Salvador. It seems like it wouldn't be CONCACAF without some kind of ineligible player drama. ? *sigh* (Malouda and the 2017 Gold Cup) Wikipedia cites that Barbados had not completed a request with FIFA to change the association of 2 former England youth internationals, Hallam Hope and Krystian Pearce. El Salvador had won 3-0 anyway, but the Guyana match that was originally a draw is now a 3-0 victory for them. With 6 points and a goal differential of +10, Guyana really puts themselves into GC consideration (and maybe even a League A spot) with their final match at home to Belize. Edited December 7, 2018 by jtpc Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirBobsaget Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 On 11/21/2018 at 11:15 PM, CanadianSoccerFan said: Some good stories in the press on Montserrat. They're pursuing a guy on the books of Manchester United who has two brothers on the books with Arsenal. The latter two are England youth internationals. The older brother at Man Utd is actually the lesser of the 3. Chris was one of the top Arsenal youth prospects but decided to try a different route signing a 5 year contract with Benfica. Joe the youngest at 19 already has 12 Arsenal caps. If all 3 decided to declare for Montserrat it would make for a really interesting experiment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtpc Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 (edited) Interesting to see that according to Wikipedia, 5 other matches next month have also changed their dates. Even though we're playing on March 24th, our match will be on the final day of qualifying, like it was when it was originally scheduled for the 26th. Could be advantageous in terms of knowing exactly what we'll need re: goal differential, if finishing qualifying in a specific position in the top 6 matters. Curacao's match has been moved to the day before ours. Jamaica is also playing on the 23rd. The Haiti/Cuba match is the same day as ours, March 24th. Edited February 18, 2019 by jtpc Alex and sloth8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardsa Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) Draw to be held March 27 for pots. Rankings within leagues to be done as per CONCACAF Nov 2018 rankings according to the following report: https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019/03/06/concacaf-nations-league-draw-be-held-later-month edit - CONCACAF's article:https://concacafnationsleague.com/en/article/2019-concacaf-nations-league-draw-to-take-place-march-27 Edited March 7, 2019 by ardsa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtpc Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 So if the countries who end up qualifying for League A are put into pots based on the November 2018 CONCACAF rankings, where you finish in the top 6 to qualify for League A then doesn't matter. If the pots were based on the top 6 in qualifying as of today, I guess they would look like this. November 2018 CONCACAF ranking in brackets: Pot 1 - Mexico (1), USA (2), Costa Rica (3), Honduras (4) Pot 2 - Panama (5), Jamaica (6), Canada (7), Haiti (10) Pot 3 - Trinidad and Tobago (11), Martinique (12), Cuba (13), Curaçao (15) Seems a bit odd (crazy?) that the country that might win qualifying could be in the weakest pot as the lowest seed, but hey, this is CONCACAF. ? Olympique_de_Marseille, BuzzAndSting and sloth8 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuzzAndSting Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) So right now... League A Pot 1: Mexico, USA, Costa Rica, Honduras Pot 2: Panama, Jamaica, Canada, Haiti Pot 3: Trinidad & Tabago, Martinique, Cuba, Curaçao Edit: @jtpc beat me to it. Edited March 7, 2019 by BuzzAndSting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raven Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) So Guatemala gets a free pass into League C after being suspended? Edit: meant League C (changed) Edited March 7, 2019 by Raven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 5 minutes ago, Raven1555362272 said: So Guatemala gets a free pass into Group C after being suspended? They go into League C, which is the lowest of the three leagues. They'll get to play the likes of Bonaire, Sint Maarten and US Virgin Islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 1 hour ago, RS said: They go into League C, which is the lowest of the three leagues. They'll get to play the likes of Bonaire, Sint Maarten and US Virgin Islands. I’m guessing the lack of competition would hamper their WCQs performance, even if a second round of the nations league takes place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devioustrevor Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 15 hours ago, canta15 said: I’m guessing the lack of competition would hamper their WCQs performance, even if a second round of the nations league takes place But it will give them a lot of opportunity to test out guys outside of their normal pool to see if they have any diamonds in the rough. Especially younger players. Granted, I'd still rather be us in our position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jtpc Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 Disappointing for whoever is drawn into Guatemala's group. A true League C team is now going to miss out on a promotion opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 7, 2019 Share Posted March 7, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, jtpc said: Disappointing for whoever is drawn into Guatemala's group. A true League C team is now going to miss out on a promotion opportunity. It is disappointing, but i’d rather Guatamala be placed in League C than be rewarded for their poor decisions Edited March 7, 2019 by Guest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 On 3/6/2019 at 7:52 PM, jtpc said: So if the countries who end up qualifying for League A are put into pots based on the November 2018 CONCACAF rankings, where you finish in the top 6 to qualify for League A then doesn't matter. If the pots were based on the top 6 in qualifying as of today, I guess they would look like this. November 2018 CONCACAF ranking in brackets: Pot 1 - Mexico (1), USA (2), Costa Rica (3), Honduras (4) Pot 2 - Panama (5), Jamaica (6), Canada (7), Haiti (10) Pot 3 - Trinidad and Tobago (11), Martinique (12), Cuba (13), Curaçao (15) Seems a bit odd (crazy?) that the country that might win qualifying could be in the weakest pot as the lowest seed, but hey, this is CONCACAF. ? I think it's consistent with the World Cup. Seedings and pots are based on ranking there, not qualifying performance. Same with the Euro Cup as well. It's based on their UEFA coefficients, not based on qualifying performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted March 8, 2019 Share Posted March 8, 2019 On 3/6/2019 at 7:52 PM, jtpc said: So if the countries who end up qualifying for League A are put into pots based on the November 2018 CONCACAF rankings, where you finish in the top 6 to qualify for League A then doesn't matter. If the pots were based on the top 6 in qualifying as of today, I guess they would look like this. November 2018 CONCACAF ranking in brackets: Pot 1 - Mexico (1), USA (2), Costa Rica (3), Honduras (4) Pot 2 - Panama (5), Jamaica (6), Canada (7), Haiti (10) Pot 3 - Trinidad and Tobago (11), Martinique (12), Cuba (13), Curaçao (15) Based on these rankings. My mock draw (dont judge me) has Canada in group 2. Group 1: Honduras, Haiti, Trinidad & Tobago Group 2: Costa Rica, Canada, Curaçao Group 3: USA, Jamaica, Cuba Group 4: Mexico, Panama, Martinique This would be a favourable/ideal draw for us to win the group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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