Dominic94 Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 59 minutes ago, spitfire said: There was a player with a similar goal scoring problem a few years ago… he now has 24 goals for Canada … who also got a lot of stick from this board too… his initials are CL… in the El Salvador game Liam made 2/3 great runs to the back post and the ball just didn’t come … Liams time will come with Canada… once he gets one I think it will all change I tend to agree he needs space and the ball all of which in recent games he hasn’t had. But We have faith in the process. His time will come patience is key… he need to just keep doing his job at club level and the national team stuff will sort itself out. … And just for the record he does have 4 assists for Canada… I think he’s been very unlucky for Canada, he’s always impressed me and I think with one of 2 more bounces he would have started and featured more with Canada, we all talk about Buchanan, but Liam deserves to be up there. Too many are sleeping on him. TOcanadafan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 1 hour ago, TGAA_Star said: If only Liam could play like this for us, think of how good he could be The El Salvador game or any game in central America isn't a good gauge for a player. The poor pitch, negative tactics is always going to be tough for offensive minded players. TGAA_Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: …we all talk about Buchanan, but Liam deserves to be up there. Too many are sleeping on him. I’m sorry, but I hate how Tajon and Liam are brought into comparison conversations. As currently they are at different levels of importance for Canada. That was a conversation for two years ago, when it was said to be disrespectful to compare the two, as one was just starting out his professional career. They are not like-for-like comparisons at the moment. I was hoping he was going to get more minutes then he did, due to him being in form for his club. But in the El Salvador game what I wanted to see from him was making attacking runs with the ball. Be more direct. Utilize that top speed he has. Several times he would receive the ball and immediately cut inside on his right foot vs just push and go into space like we see Tajon do. He did that effectively at Charlton last year, reason why he was a big chance creator there. I just want more directness, more looking for 1v1 confidence which he has displayed at club level. @SoccManbrings up a very great point. Concacaf is a different beast, and club performances don’t always translate to play in our region. Case and point is Panamas players. I think expectations of him being a goal scorer for Canada might be a stretch. I think he becomes key by his ability to create chances, and growing his current 2 assists tally. Edited February 6, 2022 by Shway nolando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, spitfire said: And just for the record he does have 4 assists for Canada… transfermarket above, Canada soccer below. Assuming this is a mistake, who were the other two teams against? Edited February 6, 2022 by Shway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Just now, Shway said: Assuming this is a mistake, who were the other two teams against? I knew you were going to quote the oh so accurate TM I think he said Martique and Cayman Islands but I’m happy to follow up… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 7 minutes ago, Shway said: I was hoping he was going to get more minutes then he did, due to him being in form for his club. But in the El Salvador game what I wanted to see from him was making attacking runs with the ball. Be more direct. Utilize that top speed he has. Several times he would receive the ball and immediately cut inside on his right foot vs just push and go into space like we see Tajon do. I promise you all Liam wanted to do was get the ball and run at players. There just wasn’t space to do so as Tajon saw when he came on for the last 30 mins The low block defensive shape made it very difficult. No one was able to get at anyone in that game. Even Sam and Ritchie couldn’t get forward much. Larin made a real difference when he came on as we went to two strikers. costarg, gator, Approve My Account Pls and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, spitfire said: I knew you were going to quote the oh so accurate TM I think he said Martique and Cayman Islands but I’m happy to follow up… no malice, was just looking for clarity. I know TM is sometimes inaccurate but Canada soccer has that listed as well. (Edited after you quoted) Maybe a hockey assist he’s counting? Which I think should be considered globally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 Liam starts 3 Approve My Account Pls, gator, Shway and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted February 19, 2022 Share Posted February 19, 2022 (edited) Liam goes 90+ in a Really important 3-0 win vs Lausanne doesn’t get on the score sheet but had a really good game… big game next week Vs 1st place FC Zurich… Edited February 19, 2022 by spitfire gator, GasPed, johnyb and 20 others 22 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Basel have drawn Marseille in the Europa Conference League round of 16. Shway, NVsoccer, johnyb and 6 others 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 hours ago, narduch said: Basel have drawn Marseille in the Europa Conference League round of 16. massive draw. Will be a big game for Liam to show out. This is basically a regular Europa League game. Obinna and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 3 hours ago, Shway said: massive draw. Will be a big game for Liam to show out. This is basically a regular Europa League game. While it is clear Conference League is a step down, you look at the final 16 and it's pretty strong, three Champions League winners. There is also a decent chance for a club to win their first European trophy, has to be an incentive for Basel or Leicester. Since Conference League is new and lacking a bit of prestige, they should add incentives. I think the winner qualifies for Europa League, but it will probably have done at least that anyways. Like some version of a European Super-Cup or the like. The Real Marc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Liam starts in a top of the table clash with FC Zurich johnyb, CanadaFan123, narduch and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Liam gets A Hockey assist 2-1 Zurich now… cronaldo7, Edgewater17, Strait Red and 9 others 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 Always looked like it was going to be a bigger challenge after the team sold off key players in the break. Still, they may not win the league but the season is strong and the play sufficiently challenging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowlander Posted February 27, 2022 Share Posted February 27, 2022 I watched most of the first half - Basel’s defense looking much worse than before the changes in personnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 Liam Starts vs St. Gallen Corazon, GasPed, johnyb and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 (edited) FC Basel came from 2-0 down to draw 2-2 the team showed real character … Liam has had a 7.0 rating or better 4 out of the last 5 games. He’s on really good form even if the team isn’t. The team is struggling not to concede goals atm but looked better 2nd half Another 90 minutes under his belt. Edited March 4, 2022 by spitfire Grammar sorry UT 🤦🏻♂️ Trois Reds, frmr, gator and 11 others 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted March 3, 2022 Share Posted March 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, spitfire said: FC Basel came from 2-0 now to draw 2-3 the team showed real character … Liam has had a 7.0 or better 4 out of the last 5 games. He’s on really good form even if the team isn’t. The team is struggling not to concede goals atm but look better 2nd half Another 90mims u see his belt Geez, you made me go check what the hell happened with that post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 18 hours ago, spitfire said: FC Basel came from 2-0 down to draw 2-2 the team showed real character … Liam has had a 7.0 rating or better 4 out of the last 5 games. He’s on really good form even if the team isn’t. The team is struggling not to concede goals atm but looked better 2nd half Another 90mims u see his belt Haven't seen it but I'm sure it was a nice belt! spitfire 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 Immediately thought of Liam's club play when I heard this. I think that's the strong difference between club and international ball - especially as an attacker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdog Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 22 minutes ago, Shway said: Immediately thought of Liam's club play when I heard this. I think that's the strong difference between club and international ball - especially as an attacker. I have kinda stopped caring about stats, I feel the eye test is still more important in soccer. Having a striker who can bang in goals all the time is still important but I’m not concerned if they’re not scoring but doing other things well. For example, David played one of his best games against the US but didn’t score. gator and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lenny Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 15 minutes ago, Bdog said: For example, David played one of his best games against the US but didn’t score. I agree it was one of his best, and it was captured by the stats. Fotmob gave him an 8.1 - the only higher rating on the field was Adekugbe's 8.6. https://www.fotmob.com/match/3613455/matchfacts/canada-vs-usa johnyb and Shway 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 (edited) 41 minutes ago, lenny said: I agree it was one of his best, and it was captured by the stats. Fotmob gave him an 8.1 - the only higher rating on the field was Adekugbe's 8.6. https://www.fotmob.com/match/3613455/matchfacts/canada-vs-usa Yes Jonny did amazing by the match stats(and in the game) but no goals and assists which unfortunately most attackers are judged by… Stats bomb and wyescout have a new expanded metrics called “XG assists” and “On Ball Value” they are great for tracking players impact even if the don’t score. In XG assists you get value of the xg goal even if the player doesn’t score form the pass this means a player can have 2 assists in a season but have an XG assist of 10 Meaning with better finishing he would have had 10 assists(so in turn the player with better players does better very important for scouting) The “On ball Value” represents what you do with the ball. Do you make the right decision and is the team in a better position when u have the ball. Analytic and stats rule the day but the pros are getting more detailed and smarter. .. Just some insight from my angle.. I agree one of Jonny best game sun a Canada shirt… https://statsbomb.com/articles/soccer/metrics-and-explainers/ Edited March 4, 2022 by spitfire gator, Northvansteve, TOcanadafan and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted March 4, 2022 Share Posted March 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Bdog said: I have kinda stopped caring about stats, I feel the eye test is still more important in soccer. Having a striker who can bang in goals all the time is still important but I’m not concerned if they’re not scoring but doing other things well. For example, David played one of his best games against the US but didn’t score. The kind of expanded statistics Spitfire is referring to helps quantify the so called 'eye test'. I don't know if we'll ever be able to fully quantify the quality we see with our eyes, but such metrics get us closer to that. TOcanadafan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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