Mikmacdo Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 33 minutes ago, Ansem said: Money talks... we'll see Exactly, if they took the premier League from tsn I don't see why they can't get MLS rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 9 hours ago, Ansem said: Money talks... we'll see Agreed. TSN is probably currently paying next to nothing for the rights. You can tell because none of the news articles about when they obtained the rights mention for how much. MLS is probably too embarrassed to make that public. They probably have a deal where they share ad revenue. That being said OneSoccer probably should have kept more quiet on this front. Now TSN/Bel are tipped off and can up their ante. Ansem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, narduch said: Agreed. TSN is probably currently paying next to nothing for the rights. You can tell because none of the news articles about when they obtained the rights mention for how much. MLS is probably too embarrassed to make that public. They probably have a deal where they share ad revenue. That being said OneSoccer probably should have kept more quiet on this front. Now TSN/Bel are tipped off and can up their ante. We have to understand that MLS will always be priority #5 or lower. They have to account for these other deals: NHL, NBA, NFL, MLB, CFL. There only so many dollars to go around and viewership has to justify paying whatever price MLS deems its TV rights will be worth in 2022. As of now, it's not even close to what the CFL pulls weekly. For parties such as DAZN and MediaPro, getting their hands on these rights is somewhat on top of their priority. That's a big difference. Too many people overvalue the importance of MLS TV rights for our traditional broadcasters. As you pointed out, they paid nearly nothing for those rights. When MLS comes knocking asking for hundreds of millions, that will be interesting. Has viewership increased enough to justify the new MLS valuation of its TV rights? (Clue...won't be cheap) Money talks indeed... Edited January 14, 2020 by Ansem grande 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) The MLS ratings in the US are terrible. Its a wonder they get any money for it. I didn't even think of DAZN. OneSoccer might face a bigger challenge for them over the MLS rights for all we know. Edited January 14, 2020 by narduch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 (edited) 29 minutes ago, narduch said: The MLS ratings in the US are terrible. Its a wonder they get any money for it. I didn't even think if DAZN. OneSoccer might face a bigger challenge for them over the MLS rights for all we know. I think the aggressive expansion is a way to sell the "overvaluation" to broadcasters in the US like the NHL has been doing in the south. Problem is that in Canada, it's 3 market, and it will ALWAYS be 3 markets with some viewership improvements but nothing justifying asking for the moon. Like you said, I also dont believe that sports channels will put that much of a fight when DAZN and Mediapro submits their figures. They can always cut deals with MediaPro to get some of the games, which might make way more business sense to them as they wouldn't have to produce the game nor have soccer journalists/analyst on payroll. What Mediapro has going for them is that they want to set up a TV channel on cable and could sell to MLS that some of their games would be resold to CBC like TFC vs Montreal. That "coast to coast" exposure is something they never had (CBC being free) Edited January 14, 2020 by Ansem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Rogers and Bell aren't known for their creativity, ingenuity and foresight. They aren't risk takers. They don't buy properties in hopes of growing them. A new start up will be more willing to take those kind of risks. TSN/CTV are perfect examples. They use Bell's buying power to scoop up the best properties and just rebroadcast them to us. Its nothing special. The CFL is a good example. TSN scooped it up after CBC had already made it a big property. Ruffian, Ansem and vancanman 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 39 minutes ago, narduch said: The CFL is a good example. TSN scooped it up after CBC had already made it a big property. Isn't the general thinking that TSN did a ton of work to grow the CFL into a viable TV product? I'm talking about on an everyday level, not just big events like the Labour Day Classics and playoff games. BuzzAndSting, johnyb and Watchmen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, RS said: Isn't the general thinking that TSN did a ton of work to grow the CFL into a viable TV product? I'm talking about on an everyday level, not just big events like the Labour Day Classics and playoff games. It was already a major ratings winner when they took it on. You won't see them take a risk like on a start up league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 This account must be run by Rob Gale ... really cool and easy going until the slightest hint of adversity and then just spastic. Getting butt hurt about a broadcaster posting a video of a former player getting a red? Just laugh and be glad he's gone. Kent, johnyb, Lofty and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sting Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 15 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said: This account must be run by Rob Gale ... really cool and easy going until the slightest hint of adversity and then just spastic. Getting butt hurt about a broadcaster posting a video of a former player getting a red? Just laugh and be glad he's gone. That video was not even from the game OneSoccer stopped broadcasting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 I think the Valour tweet is funny. grande, SkuseisLoose, PaulV and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ruffian Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 The success of CPL clubs and OneSoccer are interlinked. Why is this team allowing their twitter account to undermine the success of one of their major partners? johnyb and CDNFootballer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 44 minutes ago, Ruffian said: The success of CPL clubs and OneSoccer are interlinked. Why is this team allowing their twitter account to undermine the success of one of their major partners? I took it more as a friendly jab than a seriously critical comment - but maybe I am misinterpreting. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Ruffian said: The success of CPL clubs and OneSoccer are interlinked. Why is this team allowing their twitter account to undermine the success of one of their major partners? I suppose for the same reason OneSoccer is allowing their twitter account to call a handball in the box an "iconic moment". Why are they making Valour look bad? Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 42 minutes ago, Kent said: Why are they making Valour look bad? Valour makes Valour look bad. Winnipeg Fury and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Kent said: I suppose for the same reason OneSoccer is allowing their twitter account to call a handball in the box an "iconic moment". Why are they making Valour look bad? This really? Don't understand why this moment is either iconic or why it needs highlighting. let alone saying "long live". Out of iconic moments this year I wouldn't have even listed it, in fact I didn't even remember it until I watched it again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted January 14, 2020 Share Posted January 14, 2020 Do you ever check your notifications and see 4 people have quoted you in a couple hour span all in one topic and think “oh crap, what did I say?!?” SkuseisLoose, MM3/MM2/MM, dyslexic nam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 16 minutes ago, Lofty said: Don't watch Sportsnet's misplays of the month! Anything that happens on the pitch is fair game IMHO. Not personal. Wait a second, people actually watch that crap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Lofty said: Don't watch Sportsnet's misplays of the month! Anything that happens on the pitch is fair game IMHO. Not personal. I agree, it’s nothing personal, but neither was the comment from Valour. Just some ribbing going both ways. PaulV 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 In an interesting move, it looks like TSN did have some time to fill on their schedule. And they've chosen to fill it with Major League Rugby. http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2020/02/05/toronto-arrows-games-to-be-broadcast-on-tsn/ Chad_Impact 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Watchmen said: In an interesting move, it looks like TSN did have some time to fill on their schedule. And they've chosen to fill it with Major League Rugby. http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2020/02/05/toronto-arrows-games-to-be-broadcast-on-tsn/ And the XFL 🙄 toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew W Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 11 hours ago, Watchmen said: In an interesting move, it looks like TSN did have some time to fill on their schedule. And they've chosen to fill it with Major League Rugby. http://www.americasrugbynews.com/2020/02/05/toronto-arrows-games-to-be-broadcast-on-tsn/ This actually seems like a good pick up for TSN and also for Canadian content as the Arrows roster is significantly Canadian. Compare this with Toronto Wolfpack (which is rugby league anyway so ... barf) that features zero, zip, zilch in terms of CanCon. Watchmen, nfitz and grande 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nfitz Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 TSN has all the Canadian national team Rugby Union games - and has for years. So fits in with their coverage well. I'm wondering where Toronto Wolfpack games are though now. One seemed to be tape delayed on Sportsnet World ... hopefully they aren't all on there ... given how expensive and useless that channel is these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 CBC is the where the CPL needs to be. Maximum exposure. If TSN and sportsnet want to climb aboard fine but CBC reaches more eyes and is more accessible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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