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  1. True, and also doesn't help that in a seven team league, the same teams will have been seen multiple times already. The CFL is similarly small (9 instead of 7) but there's only 18 games so less fatigue of seeing the same teams over and over again. In a larger league like the NHL your team might be eliminated from the playoffs but you might still want to go to see the visiting team or particular player that you haven't seen before.
  2. Soccer Canada made their own bed when they signed the contract with MediaPro/OneSoccer. It's hopefully good for them long term because SportsNet and TSN are now competitors to their media partner. You don't take the money from MediaPro and then expect TSN and SportsNet to do advertising for their competitor by showing this game to drum up support for OneSoccer subscriptions. Broadcasters are not in the habit of showing programming that they don't have some control over. Maybe if they offered it for free, or did a time-buy.
  3. In Europe and overseas they are often bus leagues. All the cities are close enough together the travel costs are a lot lower. No flights, no overnight stays. USLC is a regional league (East West); at this level having a national league doesn't make financial sense (and that's given travel costs that are a lot lower in the US). Also, the worst offenders are usually the reserve sides that are being subsidized by their MLS parent.
  4. Found on the google groups archive of rec.sport.soccer from 1996 regarding MLS TV coverage: "they'll be all over the place. ABC will show a few games - all-star andchampionship final, for instance, and probably some mid-season NY-LAmatch. ESPN will show about 10 games (i think) - something like one everyother week. ESPN2 will show more, a game of the week; finally, Univisionwill broadcast some in spanish, but i don't know if they will be aseparate block of games or co-transmissions of ABC/ESPN/ESPN2 games." So, not lacking in exposure even though it's a far cry from the coverage you get today. With ABC and ESPN they would be out there in terms of public exposure. I'm old enough to remember the start of MLS and I'm pretty sure it was higher profile back then compared to the equivalent exposure that the start of CPL has received in Canada this year, although it's not a fair comparison since MLS started across the country and did not lack the largest major markets. Still it was pretty niche, especially if you didn't live in one of the MLS cities. You see some other posts complaining about the lack of promotion by the TV networks and MLS, so I guess some things aren't necessarily different!
  5. I don't know for sure but I assume the number for YouTube is only for those watching on YouTube. The Fury's opponents, given that they are all American, will be watching on ESPN+. YouTube is only for Canadians and those overseas. The USL setup is actually pretty great. All games are available and archived on YouTube and they typically do up highlight packages pretty soon after too. The level of professionalism can vary and is not as high as MediaPro, but it's free. Americans have to pay for ESPN+ but they are likely doing that anyway for other content.
  6. Don't disagree that it's a lower priority but having a radio partner provides more exposure for people who listen to sports radio (assuming the city has one). If they are broadcasting a game, they will likely promote it during the morning and afternoon rush hour shows. They will often have a weekly soccer show where they talk about the team. Even if people never actually listen to games on the radio (which can be a good option if you're stuck driving around) you will get the team and their games exposed to fans of other local teams.
  7. I've heard of teams sold that stay in place (Tampa Bay is one, sold to the Rays about a year ago) but I've personally never heard of a team sold and moved to a different city. The USL is a privately owned league so I'm sure if that's permitted or what the league's policy is on that. If it were possible, you'd assume the clubs that went up to MLS would have sold their USLC teams to other cities but as far as I know that didn't happen.
  8. The OSEG CEO has said in interviews that the lines of communication remain open. It's likely that all the armchair GMs on the internet message boards are taking this a lot more personally and with more emotion than the actual people involved. Really, the best way forward is for the CPL to just go about its business and build a successful league. It's known from Day One that if it's going to be successful, it will have to achieve success without several of the largest markets in the country (i.e. MLS). For now, Ottawa is just one more market in that list, just a lot smaller than the other three. There are lots of other cities that don't have teams, they can go build there to reach the point where the Fury feel it is financially necessary to be part of the league (which for reasons known only to them, isn't the situation today). Hopefully that this is exactly what the CPL are doing and are not wringing their hands over the situation or planning to wage war. CONCACAF and the Court for Arbitration in Sport are just two wildcards and could change the situation, but no one knows how things will play out so you can't really plan around them.
  9. It's good that they are setting the dates and locations for each leg of the Final, this gives fans extra time to arrange travel (or if they are local, make sure they set aside the time) and the teams additional time to sell tickets to the public. Makes sense why they are doing this.
  10. It's probably more likely the season ticket rep just doesn't know what's going on. Those positions come and go with the wind in my experience. When the CEO of OSEG says something, I would think it is stated pretty deliberately.
  11. That's not the way USL playoffs work. There is a play-in round between 7-10 and 8-9. They would have a home game if they stayed in 8 where they are now, or moved up to 7. If they moved up to 6 (not impossible but maybe a stretch) they would start away and likely never have a home playoff game no matter how far they went. You have the odd situation now where some people don't want them to move up too far so that they have at least one home playoff game. The downside is that if they win the play-in round, they face the first or second seed so might be a short playoff run. The East is pretty crazy how wide open it is this year.
  12. I believe it is nine MLS-owned: Tacoma, Portland, LA, Salt Lake City, Swope Park, Atlanta, Loudoun, Bethlehem, New York
  13. It's true that the Fury have not really developed any really strong rivalries in the USL. It's really only 18 teams though since it's a regional league and if you're a fan of an Eastern team, the West might as well not exist (like MLB before inter-league play). It makes it less engaging for existing fans for sure. From OSEG's point of view though, is that enough to make a difference? There is no more obvious rival for Edmonton than Calgary, yet attendance so far has shown that having a rival has not really made a difference in attendance since NASL days when they had none. Secondly, the natural rivals for Ottawa are Montreal and Toronto and we know that neither league delivers that, that comes only in the Canadian Championship. Rivalries are going to have to develop from scratch and are a longer term play. Ottawa's attendance is around the CPL's average. That suggests to me that from OSEG's point of view, there is probably some economic reason (either hard dollars, or risk) for staying in the USL in the short term, since evidence seems to point to leagues and opponents not really making a huge difference to the number of people coming in to the stadium at this level. What that is...don't know, only they have access to the books. As for the USLC itself, it's developed a pretty successful niche for itself and appears to be a stable home for US cities both with MLS aspirations and those who are probably too small but still want to grow pro soccer. Certainly nothing to be looked down upon. For Ottawa it provided a good life raft when it looked like the NASL was about to sink, and OSEG was shrewd enough to grab it.
  14. The USL President was interviewed recently and said that they would be adding 6-8 teams to the USLC and then that would be it.
  15. Because you're not going to attract people simply by being in the CPL, so you're left cannibalizing the Fury's existing fan base. You can try and do it better, but they have the stadium and six years of being known as the local soccer team. You're left with a lose-lose situation which is I think, the point that was being made. I don't see any investors lining up to try that, personally.
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