Watchmen Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 10 hours ago, Aird25 said: Money. Strangely, people seem to find it important But no one is paying $144. You're either paying $75 for the annual subscription or you're paying less for one match/one month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 9 hours ago, ted said: I pay about $250 to have pro soccer in my city, and that is just for my season ticket in the supporters end. Why would I pay additional money when I watch home games in the stadium and away games at the pub (where I spend minimum $30-40 each game). You might not, but why make a damaging comment suggesting the product isn’t worth even $50. We need people buying the subscriptions just like we need people in the stadium. gator and MtlMario 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 toontownman, SadOnMondays, ted and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 i hope One Soccer knows how to navigate the CRTC. You can't just wish up a channel in this country. They should buy Euro World Sport from TLN. That is a waste of channel. Can't believe that channel still exists. This might better explain the 'free' subscriptions to Season Ticket holders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Definitely helps to firm up subscriber numbers and demonstrate there is a niche audience for it. Hope it works better than Gol TV did for MLSE. The key is probably selecting the most appropriate overseas leagues as filler content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Gol TV was a decent channel when it had Serie A and La Liga rights. It was a bargain for $3 per month I think by the time MLSE had purchased the channel TFC was its only real major content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, narduch said: i hope One Soccer knows how to navigate the CRTC. You can't just wish up a channel in this country. They should buy Euro World Sport from TLN. That is a waste of channel. Can't believe that channel still exists. This might better explain the 'free' subscriptions to Season Ticket holders. Wow that still exists lol , what channel is that on , didn’t realize that that channel was still on. By the way having OneSoccer on cable would be great but you would think that DAZN would make to regular cable before one OneSoccer just based on the popularity of the DAZN . Edited November 3, 2019 by SoccMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Its 425 on Rogers. It's 24 hours of soccer documentary type shows. They have no live content as far as I can tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 11 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: I mean, I understand why One Soccer might want this. But not having your championship game on TV when the opportunity was there seems like a missed opportunity for the league. MtlMario, Bison44 and lazlo_80 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grasshopper1917 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 On 11/3/2019 at 10:48 AM, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Wow that is shocking. That is gross mismanagement I have no idea why the league would ever let this happen. Second game of a new leagues championship and they decline to air it on National TV live??? All I can say is wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 18 minutes ago, grasshopper1917 said: Wow that is shocking. That is gross mismanagement I have no idea why the league would ever let this happen. Second game of a new leagues championship and they decline to air it on National TV live??? All I can say is wow Unless they saw it as a way to get a whole new group of people to try the free month (or subscribe). I agree, it isn't the best for the league, but MediaPro isn't CPL, and while the two are intricately tied together for another 9 years, they may occasionally make decisions in their self interest that are not the optimal strategy for CPL. By showing the first game on CBC and keeping the second on the subscription-only platform, they may have been hoping to get people hooked. I may be wrong, of course - it just seems like every decision OS makes is taken in the most negative light lately. The fact that subscriptions are being given to season ticket holders is seen as a sign that the end is nigh rather than maybe a second year strategy to really generate interest in the platform. Keeping the second leg of the finals on their streaming platform is gross mismanagement rather than an intentional strategy to drum up business. Maybe it is the worst case scenario, and these guys have no idea what they are doing or are in way over their heads. But since they have grown a massive international media company based on their soccer business savvy, I am inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt until I see something concrete that tells me they don't have a clue. Gopherbashi, Kent and HochelagaFC 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aird25 Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I thought their strategy was to sell the games to tv broadcasters. Not just to increase subscriptions. That’s what they’ve done elsewhere. If they set the precedent of giving away the biggest matches for free, they will lose all negotiating power. I don’t understand this strategy if they plan on starting their own channel next season though. Would they still be looking to sell the rights to other networks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I think even if they do get their own channel they should still consider having a CBC game of the week. That's probably the best advertisement you will ever get for your channel. grande, Kadenge, m-g-williams and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 36 minutes ago, Aird25 said: I thought their strategy was to sell the games to tv broadcasters. Not just to increase subscriptions. That’s what they’ve done elsewhere. If they set the precedent of giving away the biggest matches for free, they will lose all negotiating power. I don’t understand this strategy if they plan on starting their own channel next season though. Would they still be looking to sell the rights to other networks? I am not sure this was ever identified as their sole strategy - unless I am missing something (entirely possible). In fact, it would seem like a waste to develop a robust streaming platform if your actual plan was to just be a seller of rights. With them securing rights to other leagues (like Liga MX), it seems like they want to be more of a major player in the market, rather than a group that just focuses on peddling CPL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 So this will now be the challenge for One Soccer...the CPL season is over, Canadian international matches are fairly rare and Liga MX is an interesting product (but personally of only minor interest), how do they get subscribers until March/April? I paid for a year of OS this season because it was Year 1 of the CPL. When it comes time to renew, will I do it? At this point and without significant improvements to functionality and content, the answer is no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 Personally I plan on dropping it for a couple months after the game on November 15th (and maybe after a rewatch if the result is as good as the last Canada/US game). I didn't get a year subscription because they called it a "Season" subscription in those early days, and didn't provide any information on what "season" meant. It worked out so it would be more expensive than going monthly for just the CPL season, so although I was pretty sure it was yearly, I didn't do it. I think I even sent them an email to get clarification that was never responded to. However, my plan is to get a year subscription when things start up again next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 I will renew. The ability to watch the CNL games each window adds value for me - as does the chance to watch Puebla (and Cruz Azul if they ever play Eustaquio). Plus any home national team friendlies. Just kidding... Last year CPL started in April. April to Nov is 8 months. If you plan to subscribe just for CPL content, a monthly sub adds up to $80, or $70 if you want to play the calendar. Bottom line for me is the next few months are just bonus content that I will get some value from. That (I think) will include the latter stages of the CNL, which will be must-see TV for me. Plus it is my way of directly supporting the league in a non-team market. I am even thinking of getting an HFX season ticket just because of the reduced price (once the $75 of OS cost is factored in, since I would spend that anyway). A season ticket in the cheap seats is $326. If i am spending the $75 anyway, the cost to me is about $250. That isn't a bad value proposition. CDNFootballer, red card, JamboAl and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 11 hours ago, grasshopper1917 said: Wow that is shocking. That is gross mismanagement I have no idea why the league would ever let this happen. Second game of a new leagues championship and they decline to air it on National TV live??? All I can say is wow The cbc guys tweet is just one side of the story, would be interesting to hear Mediapro's point of view as well. We don't know what the negotiations for the second game airing live on cbc may have entailed. dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 6 hours ago, dyslexic nam said: I will renew. The ability to watch the CNL games each window adds value for me - as does the chance to watch Puebla (and Cruz Azul if they ever play Eustaquio). Plus any home national team friendlies. Just kidding... Last year CPL started in April. April to Nov is 8 months. If you plan to subscribe just for CPL content, a monthly sub adds up to $80, or $70 if you want to play the calendar. Bottom line for me is the next few months are just bonus content that I will get some value from. That (I think) will include the latter stages of the CNL, which will be must-see TV for me. Plus it is my way of directly supporting the league in a non-team market. I am even thinking of getting an HFX season ticket just because of the reduced price (once the $75 of OS cost is factored in, since I would spend that anyway). A season ticket in the cheap seats is $326. If i am spending the $75 anyway, the cost to me is about $250. That isn't a bad value proposition. I've been on the monthly and after November will pay the $75 for the next year. Works out to $6.25 per month which is peanuts. dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM3/MM2/MM Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 Just switched from the monthly to the annual subscription and if Fury are not in the CanPL I will purchase a season ticket to York9, not sure if they will credit me or extend my subscription by a year. dyslexic nam 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 narduch, johnyb, toontownman and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 54,000 average is not bad for a start up league. One Soccer really needs to work to get back onto CBC, and try to make the broadcasts more consistent. For comparison sake MLS ratings aren't much higher. It's hard to find 2019 ratings but this article from 2017 has some. https://nationalpost.com/pmn/sports-pmn/baseball-sports-pmn/toronto-fc-success-drives-up-ratings-while-struggling-jays-numbers-drop Considering how poor TFC was for most of the regular season and the post Giovinco buzz kill, plus the situation in Vancouver I would bet those numbers dropped this year. Although there must be a playoff spike for TFC. ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rintaran Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Ansem said: Being an Eastlink television subscriber, I guess I'm streaming OneSoccer. Any word on what channels on Bell/Rogers/Telus is it supposed to air? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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