narduch Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Unnamed Trialist said: 7-Does nine teams mean a balanced schedule of 32 matches and how does scheduling accomodate that? Been thinking about this. Is it possible they let Edmonton die or go dormant? K Edgar 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 10 hours ago, ted said: Well, while I think PFC would be doing better attendance-wise at a renovated Royal Athletic Park in downtown Victoria, they are are certainly making it work in suburban Langford. They aren't yet at the level of long-term (break-even) sustainability. No team, except maybe Halifax, is. It remains to be seen if they can get there. I'm not hoping against it, but experience elsewhere suggests it's not that likely. But Victoria has a few things going for it that may overcome the location issues. There isn't a lot of high level live sports competition in the market. They don't compete with the Whitecaps for in-person viewers. Victoria probably has a higher level of city pride due to its relative isolation, and a general us-against-the-rest-of-B.C. mentality. On the other hand, it's a government town...so we'll see. ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtlsab Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 2 hours ago, narduch said: Been thinking about this. Is it possible they let Edmonton die or go dormant? I was thinking about the same thing narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Cicero said: They aren't yet at the level of long-term (break-even) sustainability. Yeah, and...?!? If there had been no pandemic or it was now 2025 the numbers might be concerning. To expect any team in the league to be at that level in 2022 is absurd. They are surviving and building towards that at a reasonable rate. Bbeto 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cicero Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 1 hour ago, ted said: Yeah, and...?!? If there had been no pandemic or it was now 2025 the numbers might be concerning. To expect any team in the league to be at that level in 2022 is absurd. They are surviving and building towards that at a reasonable rate. You ignored the rest of the post, which was a response to you writing that they are 'making it work', which I took to be an implication that Pacific is on the way to being sustainable. At this point, none of the teams are, and we still can't be certain any of them will be in the future. Inflated real estate and construction costs are leading to location compromises that will at the very least hamper the growth of the league. No need to be offended. ted 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masster Posted April 14, 2022 Share Posted April 14, 2022 7 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: That is the flag for the City of Langley. The stadium will technically be in the Township of Langley. Not sure if that matters. This is the flag for the township of Langley: Greatest Cockney Rip Off, Unnamed Trialist and Cicero 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share Posted April 14, 2022 (edited) 21 hours ago, Ansem said: Im not from that region but if this tweet is accurate, they might be on to something Lots of development in the area, about 2 blocks away construction has been in progress the last couple of years on this 74 acre project and will have commercial/pubs etc as well : A Vibrant Urban Hub At the heart of Latimer Heights is Latimer Village, a walkable, transit-oriented neighbourhood that will include a modern business hub and a European-esque village bustling with boutique-style shops, trendy restaurants, cozy cafes and other services. It’s a first for Langley — grab an iced latté, do some shopping, pick up dinner. Whatever you crave, it’s just steps from home at the Towers. Edited April 14, 2022 by CDNFootballer PegCityCam and Bbeto 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDNFootballer Posted April 14, 2022 Author Share Posted April 14, 2022 12 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said: So a few things: 3b-Not a good area for amenities such as local pubs, so you may have to reinforce concessions at the stadium. Excellent points. Re 3b :The Latimer Heights development about a couple blocks away from the Stadium location solves that, looks to be in the final stages and near completion. There's also an existing bar/pub a similar distance that's been there a few years and another development the other side of 200th a couple of blocks south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJB Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) I know a guy who knows a guy at the LEC. Take it for what it's worth, but he says the guys says 8000 seats errrr capacity. Can I just say, that it's is about time that south of the Fraser starts to get some attention. Between the AHL, WHL, and now CPL, these groups are finally seeing this area for the untapped potential of the youth here. We have the growth, the young people, and are growing a lot. Surrey will soon pass Vancouver in population. I know those leagues aren't big leagues, but they are slowly building the attention for this area. Edited April 15, 2022 by RJB CDNFootballer, johnyb, Unnamed Trialist and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PegCityCam Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) I guess I'll throw in my two cents: To get to IG Field in Winnipeg it takes a 20 min+ drive from anywhere north of Portage Ave which is basically half the city. The stadium is literally in the "suburbs" of the U of M campus - seriously, it takes a good 10 mins just to walk to the freaking admin building from IG - and is surrounded by acres of parking lots, an abandoned golf course and a 100 acre "SmartPark", whatever the eff that is. You can't get any deeper into the burbs than that. There are no amenities outside the stadium unless you want to walk 20 mins to/from an "Italian" pub in a strip mall, which a few of us crazies actually do before games. Next to zero promotion of Valour FC was done until this past year. I'll admit this is just imo but from what I could tell 90% of the city had no clue we even had a team the first two years, now its probably only 85%. And it's freaking WINNIPEG ffs! Any talk of soccer here is minimal, and what is talked about has very little to do with what's going on locally and pretty much everything to do with what's happening in the league of your motherland, or fatherland, or cousin's wife's sisterland. And yet, attendance isn't half bad. Okay it's bad, but not horrible, relatively speaking anyways. And the supporters are loyal and extremely dedicated and hard working. From what I gather, ya'll will do great, you can't really do worse than Winnipeg can you? edit: ...and we won't even attempt to touch on the bus situation here in the Peg😬 Edited April 15, 2022 by PegCityCam Nello, narduch, DoyleG and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nolando Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 6 hours ago, masster said: That is the flag for the City of Langley. The stadium will technically be in the Township of Langley. Not sure if that matters. This is the flag for the township of Langley: We are really splitting suburban beaver hairs at this point, aren't we? RJB and Unnamed Trialist 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) Why are Vancouver people crying? Don't they already have a team? They've got the Whitecaps, W2, the Rovers and they think they deserve a CPL team over a community just as big and growing at a faster rate with very little to offer from a sports and entertainment aspect. That's how self centered and arrogant these people are. Edited April 15, 2022 by SpursFlu JohnnyFranchise 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 (edited) Something to bear in mind down the road on who deserves credit for the stadium concept the FV team will be using: Edited April 15, 2022 by Ozzie_the_parrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 7 hours ago, SpursFlu said: Why are Vancouver people crying? ... Well it was announced as a Vancouver expansion team rather than a Fraser Valley one. People who have followed the league closely knew it was going to the Langley Events Centre but it may have been a surprise to others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Unnamed Trialist Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 10 hours ago, RJB said: I know a guy who knows a guy at the LEC. Take it for what it's worth, but he says the guys says 8000 seats errrr capacity. Can I just say, that it's is about time that south of the Fraser starts to get some attention. Between the AHL, WHL, and now CPL, these groups are finally seeing this area for the untapped potential of the youth here. We have the growth, the young people, and are growing a lot. Surrey will soon pass Vancouver in population. I know those leagues aren't big leagues, but they are slowly building the attention for this area. It has a lot to do with S of Fraser believing in itself. Not ceding cultural -economic-leisure primacy to Vancouver. Not acting like suburbs, actually creating urban amenities. Also: requesting provincial and federal funding for projects the population warrants instead of accepting VAN centrality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 17 hours ago, masster said: That is the flag for the City of Langley. The stadium will technically be in the Township of Langley. Not sure if that matters. This is the flag for the township of Langley: I'll take either colour code. Low Frequency Dogwoods is not a great name for a team though. chalms04 and youllneverwalkalone 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shorty Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 I thought it was Flower Power. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 Haven't listened to this yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFranchise Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 I am cautiously optimistic this will be successful. I live ~20 minutes away in new westminter. Convenient just off the freeway, but parking can be a bitch, especially if there are things happening at the LEC (the one time I went to a giants game there I had to park about a 10-minute walk away). Langley soccer community is huge, I just hope they didn't lose a big market of fans by not finding a spot in Surrey. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 On 4/14/2022 at 11:08 AM, Cicero said: You ignored the rest of the post, which was a response to you writing that they are 'making it work', I didn't bother quoting your whole post (as I an doing now) because it was irrelevant to my point. Your assessment is not supported by the facts and is, at best, premature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted April 16, 2022 Share Posted April 16, 2022 13 hours ago, JohnnyFranchise said: ...I live ~20 minutes away in new westminter. Convenient just off the freeway, but parking can be a bitch, ... That's kind of why they needed to be in a location with efficient mass transit such as the SkyTrain if they are really aiming for regular 8000 crowds. This location isn't suitable for crowds of that scale in access and parking lot terms, but they no doubt know that. Suspect it's only viewed as a stop gap solution and they hope to take advantage of a 2026 World Cup related practice facility to be built elsewhere later in a more suitable location. Beyond that angle what I find interesting so far is the apparent absence of an organized fan group. Guess having people like that front and centre was always Paul Beirne's big thing along with talking up pro/rel in marketing terms and he's no longer involved now, but it does leave a nagging doubt as to whether the response to this particular expansion announcement has been tepid at best in a Y9 sort of way. JohnnyFranchise and longlugan 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamptern Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 First piece of stadium construction material arrived at LEC, 8AM April 14 2022. I was told these steel beams are for the gate. Stryker911, JohnnyFranchise, johnyb and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 9 hours ago, lamptern said: First piece of stadium construction material arrived at LEC, 8AM April 14 2022. I was told these steel beams are for the gate. Like a FoE demo version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tigers Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 Off topic but damn that's nice looking rugby pitch. Is there a club that plays here or are BC parks just that well set up for rugby as well? If they go with a dogwood motif I will be buying some gear, it's also the county flower of my hometown: https://www.norfolkcounty.ca/living/symbols-of-norfolk-county/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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