RS Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 On 8/21/2021 at 9:22 PM, Bison44 said: WHat has made much sense with TFC the last few years? They made MLS Cup final in 2019 and finished second in the Supporters Shield race in 2020 while playing most of the season on the road (before flaming out in the playoffs). This year has been an unmitigated disaster and there need to be some big changes in order to make 2022 viable, but the tire fire version of the team is an extremely recent thing. Getting back to Dunn, I'll echo what others are saying here. He has to be better than Singh is right now, and other young players seem to be getting more playing time as the season slips away, so there must be something else going on to explain Dunn's lack of usage. Ivan, Ruffian and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 The seeds of this tire fire were planted the last few years. Altidore, Bradley are shadows of what they were and it was totally predictable that there was going to be a sharp fall off unless they were replaced with comperable talent eventually eh? The steps needed to shore up defense werent done. It has just taken awhile for the chickens to come home to roost. TOcanadafan and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Bison44, Dominic94, sebdeserio and 3 others 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 TFC's development pathway leaves a lot to be desired. I am not sure they really have a plan. I know Dunn was injured earlier in the year but they couldn't find him another team to get minutes at and instead just back to TFC 2? They must not rate him to not even give him minutes with the first team. He is 21 and it is a critical age.... these TFC players may have to start getting out of dodge ala Liam Fraser but earlier in their careers. Bdog, Dominic94, An Observer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, canuckgbp said: TFC's development pathway leaves a lot to be desired. I am not sure they really have a plan. I know Dunn was injured earlier in the year but they couldn't find him another team to get minutes at and instead just back to TFC 2? They must not rate him to not even give him minutes with the first team. He is 21 and it is a critical age.... these TFC players may have to start getting out of dodge ala Liam Fraser but earlier in their careers. I would like to see more MLS loans like we saw with Fraser. Dominic94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 1 minute ago, Obinna said: I would like to see more MLS loans like we saw with Fraser. From what I read Fraser told them he wanted to go to secure his future elsewhere. Onus is still on the players to find a better situation. We see how poorly the backline of TFC are, yet these young players like Dunn can't get a sniff. It's puzzling and concerning tbh. Dominic94 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kacbru Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 7 minutes ago, Obinna said: I would like to see more MLS loans like we saw with Fraser. I still find it hilarious that Fraser is a regular on a mid-table MLS team and a trusted CMNT depth player, but couldn't get minutes at the TFC dumpster fire. narduch, Obinna, canuckgbp and 5 others 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Dunn Johnson could easily be in the Can PL, it’s TFC who won’t loan him there. they clearly don’t rate their young CB’s… canuckgbp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 Signh goes to make a great point… 25 matches without a goal for Dwyer and Mullins… surely Peruzza is ready and can do better. heck, where’s Nelsen and Rutty ? Ivan, johnyb and canuckgbp 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 4 minutes ago, kacbru said: I still find it hilarious that Fraser is a regular on a mid-table MLS team and a trusted CMNT depth player, but couldn't get minutes at the TFC dumpster fire. It is one reason why I don't know if TFC know what they are doing or if they have a real development plan. Several vets have been absolutely horrible and continue to get trotted out. Wouldn't they be curious to see Dunn in real games right now to see if he can be of use for next season? Unless they just don't rate him at all. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: Dunn Johnson could easily be in the Can PL, it’s TFC who won’t loan him there. they clearly don’t rate their young CB’s… They won't loan him out but they stick him on the pine or in USL L1. CPL or USL Champ is what is needed if he isn't ready for the step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 At this point the only answer is that they clearly don’t rate Dunn. If he can’t get minutes for the worst team in MLS who have been a calamity at the back there is no other explanation Bison44, johnyb and toontownman 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, Floortom said: At this point the only answer is that they clearly don’t rate Dunn. If he can’t get minutes for the worst team in MLS who have been a calamity at the back there is no other explanation The probably see it as "still having faith in the vets", but it's 6 in one and half-dozen in the other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdog Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 55 minutes ago, Dominic94 said: Signh goes to make a great point… 25 matches without a goal for Dwyer and Mullins… surely Peruzza is ready and can do better. heck, where’s Nelsen and Rutty ? I hope they all stay with TFC II when they play York United, there will be another easy CPL win if Dwyer and Mullins start up top. Dominic94 and Greatest Cockney Rip Off 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 17 hours ago, canuckgbp said: TFC's development pathway leaves a lot to be desired. I am not sure they really have a plan. I know Dunn was injured earlier in the year but they couldn't find him another team to get minutes at and instead just back to TFC 2? They must not rate him to not even give him minutes with the first team. He is 21 and it is a critical age.... these TFC players may have to start getting out of dodge ala Liam Fraser but earlier in their careers. Their pathway is a roundabout… from TFC2 to TFC bench and back. They never had to worry about development in years past when they had good DP’s and spent double almost everyone else. The organization needs a complete overhaul. Very few in mainstream media are (or can be because of their ‘conflict of interest’) critical of them. It was refreshing to hear Peter Galindo go on a tirade during the last Northern Futbol podcast about not playing any of the kids, Dunn included. narduch, Dominic94, canuckgbp and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 1 minute ago, TOcanadafan said: Their pathway is a roundabout… from TFC2 to TFC bench and back. They never had to worry about development in years past when they had good DP’s and spent double almost everyone else. The organization needs a complete overhaul. Very few in mainstream media are (or can be because of their ‘conflict of interest’) critical of them. It was refreshing to hear Peter Galindo go on a tirade during the last Northern Futbol podcast about not playing any of the kids, Dunn included. Kloke and Singh have started to go at them… TOcanadafan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 21 hours ago, Floortom said: If you're going to suck...might as well suck as Team America instead of playing your young Canadians Truly a detestable organization johnyb, narduch, baulderdash77 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 I saw this from Singh on Perez: “When asked about playing the young players, Perez says that the team still cannot rule out the possibility of making the playoffs. Adds that playing younger players moving forward is also something that the team cannot dismiss.” What a crock of shit… no plan whatsoever from TFC. Metro, narduch and Dominic94 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 36 minutes ago, TOcanadafan said: I saw this from Singh on Perez: “When asked about playing the young players, Perez says that the team still cannot rule out the possibility of making the playoffs. Adds that playing younger players moving forward is also something that the team cannot dismiss.” What a crock of shit… no plan whatsoever from TFC. They are not making the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, narduch said: They are not making the playoffs. I don’t think they’ve realized that they’re in last… Greatest Cockney Rip Off, narduch and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 One of those rare cases this early in cpl history that Valour should have made an offer to have Julian Dunn transfer to them. Expensive for sure but raise his value with Jean-Baptiste and sell him to a another league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 They might get him free after he end of the season since it seems like TFC dont rate him at all. Dominic94, johnyb, Ansem and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Yeah, at this point I am hoping TFC drop him after the season and he returns to the CPL. Other players in TFC's system better be paying attention to this kind of stuff too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VinceA Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 It has to drive everyone nuts right? American MLS teams don't seem to have any issues giving minutes to young CBs while with the Canadian MLS teams it is like pulling teeth. Montreal is sort of an exception but Miller and Waterman are in their mid twenties now and they loaned out Yao and Ferdinand (who is versatile, granted) to the CPL. canuckgbp, gator, johnyb and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, VinceA said: It has to drive everyone nuts right? American MLS teams don't seem to have any issues giving minutes to young CBs while with the Canadian MLS teams it is like pulling teeth. Montreal is sort of an exception but Miller and Waterman are in their mid twenties now and they loaned out Yao and Ferdinand (who is versatile, granted) to the CPL. MTL is actually trying to develop though, they sent their guys right away. Choniere also got his chance too. narduch, costarg and Sal333 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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