Woobens Pacius

[Dominic94]

24 minutes ago, Footyeh said:

Off to Music city

He could be really good for them but is the a Next Pro move ? They really do focus heavily on domestic and let’s not forget they have that MacNoughton guy and they signed Johnston last year. They obviously rate the Can PL.

[Big_M]

didnt play in an mls academy in the year prior to turning 16 so cant count as a domestic on an american team that way but could count as a domestic if he played in a canadian approved youth club in the year prior to turning 16

[CanadaFan123]

21 minutes ago, Dominic94 said:

He could be really good for them but is the a Next Pro move ? They really do focus heavily on domestic and let’s not forget they have that MacNoughton guy and they signed Johnston last year. They obviously rate the Can PL.

Also Chris N’Sa 

[narduch]

23 minutes ago, Dominic94 said:

He could be really good for them but is the a Next Pro move ? They really do focus heavily on domestic and let’s not forget they have that MacNoughton guy and they signed Johnston last year. They obviously rate the Can PL.

Next Pro is a step down.

I hope that's not the case

[jonovision]

10 minutes ago, narduch said:

Next Pro is a step down.

I hope that's not the case

I think this could be debated.

[Footyeh]

1 hour ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said:

Nashville? Is Pacius a domestic for them? I though they got rid of all their international roster slots.

No, I imagine they just loan him down to Huntsville.  
 

50 minutes ago, narduch said:

Does he count as a homegrown?

Nope.  

[Bigandy]

53 minutes ago, narduch said:

We need a camp poutine so guys like this are involved in the program

Its wild that our depth is so great (comparatively) that I dont think we bring pacius to camp poutine based on merit.

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[toontownman]

This is tremendous news. Excited for him. Hope he settles and manages to get some minutes eventually. Imagining he goes to Huntsville their affiliate team.

[CanadaFan123]

1 hour ago, jonovision said:

I think this could be debated.

In terms of level absolutely not. In terms of chance of opportunity it’s a little higher perhaps.

[Footyeh]

3 hours ago, Big_M said:

didnt play in an mls academy in the year prior to turning 16 so cant count as a domestic on an american team that way but could count as a domestic if he played in a canadian approved youth club in the year prior to turning 16

Believe this only applies when a player is signing their 1st professional contract.

[Big_M]

8 minutes ago, Footyeh said:

Believe this only applies when a player is signing their 1st professional contract.

went back on the rules and this is correct...its under the condition that his first pro contract is with an mls team or affiliate...since this is not the case here he cannot count as domestic on an american mls team

 

The league announced that the updated parameters will go into effect in 2017. Current and future MLS players will be affected in that:

 

• Any current MLS player who was a member of an MLS club academy in the year prior to the year in which they turned 16 will be considered a domestic player on MLS rosters in both the US and Canada beginning in 2017. 
• Any amateur player who was a member of an MLS Academy or Canadian Approved Youth Club in the year prior to the year in which he turned 16, will be considered a domestic player upon signing his first professional contract with an MLS club or and MLS club’s USL affiliate.

[Shway]

Another reason why MLS is bullshit. 
Or is it the CSA for not allowing CPL clubs to be on the homegrown list?

[dyslexic nam]

21 minutes ago, Shway said:

Another reason why MLS is bullshit. 
Or is it the CSA for not allowing CPL clubs to be on the homegrown list?

Def not CSA.  That is all Garber.  

[Shway]

1 hour ago, dyslexic nam said:

Def not CSA.  That is all Garber.  

CSA gives the exemption to MLS Canadians teams. This whole domestic players/approved clubs thing came at result of the CSA and less the MLS Canadian clubs.

The CSA has more power than we think.

Edited December 16, 2023 by Shway

[Bison44]

Did this move really happen?? Or is it still just speculation??  

[dyslexic nam]

1 hour ago, Shway said:

CSA gives the exemption to MLS Canadians teams. This whole domestic players/approved clubs thing came at result of the CSA and less the MLS Canadian clubs.

The CSA has more power than we think.

I stand to be corrected but I was definitely understanding that the rules surrounding domestic player eligibility/criteria are determined by MLS.  Not sure how it would serve the CSA’s interest in player development to exclude CPL players from domestic status in what is ultimately likely to be the biggest potential transfer market for league exports.  MLS definitely benefits from the status quo insofar as it protects its lower tier feeder leagues and incentivizes young players with MLS aspirations to choose them as a development pathway.  But CSA?  I just don’t see the angle.  

[Kent]

6 minutes ago, dyslexic nam said:

I stand to be corrected but I was definitely understanding that the rules surrounding domestic player eligibility/criteria are determined by MLS.  Not sure how it would serve the CSA’s interest in player development to exclude CPL players from domestic status in what is ultimately likely to be the biggest potential transfer market for league exports.  MLS definitely benefits from the status quo insofar as it protects its lower tier feeder leagues and incentivizes young players with MLS aspirations to choose them as a development pathway.  But CSA?  I just don’t see the angle.  

I think what @Shway meant is that the change from the "Canadians are internationals on American teams" to the current "OK, some of them can count as domestics" came about because of pressure from the CSA. He isn't saying CSA wants players like Pacius to be restricted in his movement to MLS, he is saying they could be doing more to exert pressure on MLS to get them to change their rules.

[dyslexic nam]

2 minutes ago, Kent said:

I think what @Shway meant is that the change from the "Canadians are internationals on American teams" to the current "OK, some of them can count as domestics" came about because of pressure from the CSA. He isn't saying CSA wants players like Pacius to be restricted in his movement to MLS, he is saying they could be doing more to exert pressure on MLS to get them to change their rules.

Ah ok.  Was in the hot tub and may have had drinks…. Prob should put the phone away.  

[Shway]

9 hours ago, Kent said:

I think what @Shway meant is that the change from the "Canadians are internationals on American teams" to the current "OK, some of them can count as domestics" came about because of pressure from the CSA. He isn't saying CSA wants players like Pacius to be restricted in his movement to MLS, he is saying they could be doing more to exert pressure on MLS to get them to change their rules.

But people will then quote some bullshit about American labour laws won't allow some to be favoured over others

...the USL had Canadians as domestics for years, as soon as their wasn't any more Canadian teams in the league the rule was rightfully so changed back to Canadians without green cards are considered international players.

A lot more Canadians/CPL players would be in MLS if not for these stupid rules they create.

Edited December 16, 2023 by Shway

[MtlMario]

On 12/15/2023 at 3:58 PM, Big_M said:

went back on the rules and this is correct...its under the condition that his first pro contract is with an mls team or affiliate...since this is not the case here he cannot count as domestic on an american mls team

 

The league announced that the updated parameters will go into effect in 2017. Current and future MLS players will be affected in that:

 

• Any current MLS player who was a member of an MLS club academy in the year prior to the year in which they turned 16 will be considered a domestic player on MLS rosters in both the US and Canada beginning in 2017. 
• Any amateur player who was a member of an MLS Academy or Canadian Approved Youth Club in the year prior to the year in which he turned 16, will be considered a domestic player upon signing his first professional contract with an MLS club or and MLS club’s USL affiliate.

2017?

[Big_M]

yup thats when the rule started

[narduch]

 

 

[One American]

There's a race to sign Woobens Pacius?

[narduch]

17 minutes ago, One American said:

There's a race to sign Woobens Pacius?

I think it's already a done deal

[PastPros]

1 hour ago, One American said:

There's a race to sign Woobens Pacius?

Just like the race for Ohtani.