Mattd97 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 12 minutes ago, VinceA said: Veth is a shit stirrer. Fibre tear is very different to muscle tear. At no point did Nagelsmann say muscle tear. What a pompous ass. Unless you're implying it's specifically tendon, what do you think the difference is in those two terms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Just touched down in Toronto and got data back. What great news… Addona, jhoops__ and Corazon 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Phonzie heals super fast, but I'm dusting off the ol' rosary beads just in case. Canuckia, LeoH037, N1ckbr0wn and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) On a side note.. can we all just say November/December World Cup is super dumb Ok back to our hair on fire I'm going to confession. How does this work? Do I just put in a quarter and start talking? Edited November 5, 2022 by SpursFlu The Beaver 2.0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Mattd97 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 minute ago, gator said: All muscle strains are damage (usually tears) of the muscle fibres. The hamstring has three tendons, yes, it's more of a muscle group than it's own muscle. But a "tear" isn't the boogeyman most think it is. They're still 3 classes of tear/strain. You get no information from the terminology "tear", it could still be minor with only a small % of the fibres torn. It's only colloquially that we use tear to mean a significant injury. But this guy using one fibre = one entire muscle of the hamstrings is just weird and unnecessary Obinna, Free kick, jhoops__ and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) I thought that a fibre tear was better than a strain because it’s supposed to heal faster. edit: @Mattd97 posted before i did. By about 5 seconds. It kind confirms what i was alluding to Edited November 5, 2022 by Free kick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Mattd97 said: All muscle strains are damage (usually tears) of the muscle fibres. The hamstring has three tendons, yes, it's more of a muscle group than it's own muscle. But a "tear" isn't the boogeyman most think it is. They're still 3 classes of tear/strain. You get no information from the terminology "tear", it could still be minor with only a small % of the fibres torn. It's only colloquially that we use tear to mean a significant injury. But this guy using one fibre = one entire muscle of the hamstrings is just weird and unnecessary Hyperbole gets clicks. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearcatSA Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Looking forward to the Howie Meekers of sports injury treatment chiming in for the next 20+ pages of this thread. jhoops__, Addona and Canuckia 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I was literally clicking this thread thinking "please, no bad news. please." FFS We can't even blame CONCACAF for this one. Free kick, Addona, jhoops__ and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Yes, it seems reasonable to trust the outlook of this injury to Twitter “experts” who can’t figure out FIFA rules. Also, on the topic of stupidity. How can this be blamed on the World Cup being mid season? People out here really think you have a better chance of being injured mid season than at the end of a 50 game season? Wild. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, BearcatSA said: Looking forward to the Howie Meekers of sports injury treatment chiming in for the next 20+ pages of this thread. "Stop it right there!" "Jiminy Cricket," "Golly gee willikers" 😀 Edited November 5, 2022 by Free kick BearcatSA and The Beaver 2.0 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Even a very minor muscle pull is a small tear. You can tear a muscle and be okay in a few days. Just depends on the severity Floortom and Jack1997 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Beaver 2.0 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 minute ago, Free kick said: "Stop it right there!" "Jiminy Cricket," "Golly gee willikers" It's hard to believe he was a real dude and not some folksy invention of Christopher Guest. WestHamCanadianinOxford, BearcatSA and Free kick 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 7 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said: Yes, it seems reasonable to trust the outlook of this injury to Twitter “experts” who can’t figure out FIFA rules. Also, on the topic of stupidity. How can this be blamed on the World Cup being mid season? People out here really think you have a better chance of being injured mid season than at the end of a 50 game season? Wild. It's the compressed nature of the schedules in order to squeeze in the World Cup. Teams are playing midweek matches nearly every week. This follows a compressed 2021-22 season due to COVID, with major tournaments and World Cup qualifying also thrown in, so players have been grinding for a very long stretch. king1010, Floortom, Free kick and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawafan Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Hoping since he walked off on his own, and without much visible discomfort, it shouldn't be too severe. Hopefully... Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 1 minute ago, RS said: It's the compressed nature of the schedules in order to squeeze in the World Cup. Teams are playing midweek matches nearly every week. This follows a compressed 2021-22 season due to COVID, with major tournaments and World Cup qualifying also thrown in, so players have been grinding for a very long stretch. No doubt, but those factors are variables regardless of the timing of the World Cup. If this was in June-July 2022 it would have been even worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 2 minutes ago, RS said: It's the compressed nature of the schedules in order to squeeze in the World Cup. Teams are playing midweek matches nearly every week. This follows a compressed 2021-22 season due to COVID, with major tournaments and World Cup qualifying also thrown in, so players have been grinding for a very long stretch. No top player is playing anything out of the ordinary. Most leagues started early, many have put their cup matches back. Bayern even qualified early out of the CL group. And Davies wasn't even at full sprint or in a dire defensive play when felt the tweak. End of season final push for silverware after 45 games is higher physical and psychological stress king1010 and WestHamCanadianinOxford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Just now, CanadaFan123 said: No doubt, but those factors are variables regardless of the timing of the World Cup. If this was in June-July 2022 it would have been even worse. It might have been, yeah. There's no way or knowing for sure. Although I think the cumulative effects could be worse now thanks to the one-two punch of COVID compressing everything and the winter World Cup forcing even more compression. If you remove one of those factors it may not be as bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Just now, Unnamed Trialist said: No top player is playing anything out of the ordinary. Most leagues started early, many have put their cup matches back. It's most certainly out of the ordinary to have the CL/UEL/UECL group stages finished already, and if the leagues started early that means players lost out on crucial rest over the summer (especially since most high level players were playing international matches in June). The 2021-22 season was also out of the ordinary thanks to COVID rescheduling, then you had three-match international windows thrown in to catch up for lost time. UEFA even did a four-day window in June for Nations League. This all adds up, and players are still human at the end of the day. WestHamCanadianinOxford and king1010 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpg_29 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 In Canada's case don't think it matters what time of year the WC is. Bulk of our players play in a league that would be in mid season during a June WC. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally McCoist Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I was going to post a few weeks back saying that we've had so much good fate and luck throughout qualifying that watch us get fucked over by an injury before the World Cup... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ally McCoist Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 32 minutes ago, The Beaver 2.0 said: I was literally clicking this thread thinking "please, no bad news. please." FFS We can't even blame CONCACAF for this one. Bayern acts like Davies is a piece of glass when playing in CONCACAF. These motherfuckers recalled him back to Germany in September 2021 over a slight knock. When the truth of the matter is, Davies gets more roughed up playing for Bayern than he does playing for Canada. Ottawafan, johnyb and N1ckbr0wn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 25 minutes ago, Ally McCoist said: Bayern acts like Davies is a piece of glass when playing in CONCACAF. These motherfuckers recalled him back to Germany in September 2021 over a slight knock. When the truth of the matter is, Davies gets more roughed up playing for Bayern than he does playing for Canada. He was creamed a few times vs Haiti think it was. We were lucky Honduras or El Salvador weren't playing for keeps. You trust CONCACAF refs and rivals over Bundesliga? In any case, this wasn't a foul, he was all alone when it happened, for me your "roughed up" point doesn't make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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