Blackjack15 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 38 minutes ago, xabuep2 said: Basically Canada needs to beat Panama ( round 1) and Guatemala (Final Round) to qualify to Poland 2019 This is more than doable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Jahinho Guerro said: ... Rightfully so. I'll expect Davies there as I don't think the whitecaps will be in the playoffs. But for David, if he's getting pro valuable minutes, I rather that than a youth tournament. Reality is with youth world cups, only a few a players have world class careers, the other handful will be domestic stars, and the massive rest become journeyman. (Do a where are they now check). My level of importance for Canada is performing on the world stage on the men's team. I think youth teams is about giving player's who are unnoticed chances, as it bring attention to them to get them signed elsewhere...If a player (David) is already playing and performing against grown men - what's the point in jeopardizing that? I know I'm a little indifferent than others on this, but I just don't see the need to have a guy doing triple time as a MNT/YNT/club player. I want to see Millar, Reid, Hundaal, Bair, etc. How is a player going to get noticed if we don't qualify for tournaments? I think you need players like Davies and David to help the team as a whole, which makes the team go farther and in turn makes everyone look better. We should absolutely call our best players. If a team won't release them until the international window that sucks, but we should still bring them in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soccer.shocker Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Please leave Hundaal at home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 (edited) I think you and others are overvaluing the importance of qualifying for FIFA youth tournaments. 3 hours ago, Stryker911 said: How is a player going to get noticed if we don't qualify for tournaments? I think you need players like Davies and David to help the team as a whole, which makes the team go farther and in turn makes everyone look better. 1 If you look at the squads of past cycles of this tournament, you'll notice that not a lot of players gets noticed by first division top European league (Noticed meaning that they were playing domestically, went to the tournament, showed out and signed elsewhere). Only the Brazilians and Argentinians who historically produce elite talent, is where you will find some anomalies, other than that the majority of players end up staying in their domestic leagues or making "lateral" moves. I also think a lot of you are devaluing the deep investments made by clubs for their global scouting networks. Reason why I said .... Quote I think youth teams is about giving player's who are unnoticed chances, as it brings attention to them to get them signed elsewhere...If a player (David) is already playing and performing against grown men - what's the point in jeopardizing that? My perspective being, if a player like Shaan Hundal who started playing professional soccer at 17, and has amassed 68 caps and 15 goals. Isn't it more valuable to the program that players like him, who aren't internationally noticed get the opportunity to be noticed vs bringing in a player like David (18) who has been scoring in Europe and in Belgium, or Davies who's signed for 1 of the top 5 clubs in the World. Football is all about opportunities, so why limit them for the sake of qualifying? Oh yea to add....take a look at Canada's U17 squad that qualified for the World Cup Edited September 14, 2018 by Jahinho Guerro Free kick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 9 hours ago, xabuep2 said: Actually If Canada wins Group D then will face Mexico and Guatemala in Group H. As a winner or runner up , Canada would qualify to Poland 2019. Basically Canada needs to beat Panama ( round 1) and Guatemala ( Final Round) to be once again in a U20 WC.... This, except I think it's worth noting that it's Guatemala/El Salvador. I don't know if there is that clear a favourite between those two nations (at least traditionally, not sure about this specific cohort). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xabuep2 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Sure there is a clear favorite : Guatemala Last month Guatemala was champion of the U19 UNCAF tournament without losing any match. El Salvador on the contrary got 4 defeats, 1 draw, 1 win. Guatemala defeated El Salvador 3-0 by the way. Kent and Blackjack15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted September 14, 2018 Share Posted September 14, 2018 Honeslty we should be disappointed if we don’t go. If we get Davies or David that’s enough to get the team there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 13 hours ago, Dominic94 said: Honeslty we should be disappointed if we don’t go. If we get Davies or David that’s enough to get the team there. Let's not get too over-confident, remember Canada hasn't accomplished sh!t all in nearly 20 years lol Keegan, dyslexic nam, Blackjack15 and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted September 15, 2018 Share Posted September 15, 2018 13 hours ago, Bertuzzi44 said: Let's not get too over-confident, remember Canada hasn't accomplished sh!t all in nearly 20 years lol We did qualify for the U17 WC in 2013! And we were the first country for a goalie to score! That is an accomplishment lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soccerpro Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 On 9/14/2018 at 11:43 AM, Dominic94 said: Honeslty we should be disappointed if we don’t go. If we get Davies or David that’s enough to get the team there. You haven't watched our youth teams if you're saying that. shamrock 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 ...interesting to see the consensus is around here. Should Ballou play/go? (I don't think so, based on my sentiments mentioned earlier) but I will say a front four of Davies - David - Millar-Ballou would be interesting to see. BenFisk'sBiggestFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 They should all go. Let's qualify!. dyslexic nam, Blackjack15, Keegan and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted September 25, 2018 Share Posted September 25, 2018 16 minutes ago, Jahinho Guerro said: ...interesting to see the consensus is around here. Should Ballou play/go? (I don't think so, based on my sentiments mentioned earlier) but I will say a front four of Davies - David - Millar-Ballou would be interesting to see. It’s most efficient for our program if they all go and then we can assess our 98 and older options at their spots. It would be a different story if we played more than one match at senior level but I think this is better for everyone.. even us as fans as it will force Herdman to use his depth aka Ricketts, Akindele, Fisk, Edwards, Aird.. those guys along with Hoilett shouldn’t have a problem. If they don’t get a look now, when can they? You have to assume March is a full A squad with u20 guys so this is almost like a final look for older guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free kick Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ivan said: They should all go. Let's qualify!. That would be ideal. But to me, it would be perfectly understandable if players like Davies and/or Ballou are given or take a pass on the national youth u20 squads. These players are at Barcelona and Bayern munich. We have never had players with that kind of pedigree before. And, the development opportunities that can accrue from playing at these kind of clubs clubs is more important for canada than whatever we can achieve as a nation at the u20 level. You would really hate to see these guys miss out or be absent and loose opportunities at their clubs just because they came back to north america in order to play some u20 qualifier against some concacaf island minnow. Ps.: now, for the olympic qualifying tournament, I might think otherwise. I have never been big on this event mostly because there are only two spots available from concacaf. But this time might change my mind, if you can get two players of this pedigree. Edited September 26, 2018 by Free kick Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 8 hours ago, Free kick said: That would be ideal. But to me, it would be perfectly understandable if players like Davies and/or Ballou are given or take a pass on the national youth u20 squads. These players are at Barcelona and Bayern munich. We have never had players with that kind of pedigree before. And, the development opportunities that can accrue from playing at these kind of clubs clubs is more important for canada than whatever we can achieve as a nation at the u20 level. You would really hate to see these guys miss out or be absent and loose opportunities at their clubs just because they came back to north america in order to play some u20 qualifier against some concacaf island minnow. Ps.: now, for the olympic qualifying tournament, I might think otherwise. I have never been big on this event mostly because there are only two spots available from concacaf. But this time might change my mind, if you can get two players of this pedigree. Assuming that the Whitecaps are missing the playoffs, Davies won't be playing any club games during November and December. The only question with him is whether he plays U20s or for the full national team. Tabla's unlikely to get into a senior game at Barca, during those 2 weeks, so we may as well as put him in the same boat as Davies. Stryker911 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jordan Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 Cammy Palmer could make his Rangers first team debut tonight, he’s only 17 but maybe worth the call. Ruffian and Greatest Cockney Rip Off 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 4 hours ago, SthMelbRed said: Assuming that the Whitecaps are missing the playoffs, Davies won't be playing any club games during November and December. The only question with him is whether he plays U20s or for the full national team. Tabla's unlikely to get into a senior game at Barca, during those 2 weeks, so we may as well as put him in the same boat as Davies. Both should play if possible and why not both the MNT and the u20's? Tabla should be capped first and then can show his skills at the U20's. If the 'Caps don't qualify Bayern will be happy to see Fonzie get some games before joining them in Munich. Ansem and Stryker911 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 I think Herdman and Biello will push to get the best to suit up for the U20 tournament. (Tabla, Millar, Davies, Busti, Brault-Guillard) The challenge will be to get Gent to release Jonathan David. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 1 hour ago, jordan said: Cammy Palmer could make his Rangers first team debut tonight, he’s only 17 but maybe worth the call. https://www.rangersnews.uk/news/five-facts-on-young-starlet-cammy-palmer-ahead-of-ayr-clash/ We need to get this guy SpecialK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 29 minutes ago, Ansem said: I think Herdman and Biello will push to get the best to suit up for the U20 tournament. (Tabla, Millar, Davies, Busti, Brault-Guillard) The challenge will be to get Gent to release Jonathan David. I’m pretty sure Brault-Guillard is not eligible for the U20 because he was born in 1998 Keegan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 28 minutes ago, Ansem said: https://www.rangersnews.uk/news/five-facts-on-young-starlet-cammy-palmer-ahead-of-ayr-clash/ We need to get this guy We definitely need this guy !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) Holy Shit that's a scary lineup! It's Ass kicking time !!! Edited September 26, 2018 by SpecialK Bertuzzi44, Blackjack15, Ruffian and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 If all of the above players played that would be extremely exciting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) With that lineup, we should easily qualify for U20 World Cup and potentially go far in U20 World Cup - maybe even win it! Edited September 26, 2018 by SpecialK Keegan, BrennanFan and Shway 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Admin Posted September 26, 2018 Share Posted September 26, 2018 13 minutes ago, canta15 said: If all of the above players played that would be extremely exciting There is some cheap real estate in Bradenton. Given the number games we have there, i think the V's should invest in some real estate. Voyageurs AirBnB.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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