Keegan Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 @Obinna Davies can’t join Bayern until the first window after his 18th birthday, so January. Even if he’s 18 he can’t play yet. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 ^exactly right. There are 2 different things at play. 1. He can't complete an international transfer until his 18th birthday - 2 November 2018. 2. Bayern can't register him as a new player until the European transfer window opens - 1 January 2019. I suppose Bayern could want him to join training with them on his 18th birthday, even though he can't play matches until the new year, though. I guess it depends on the wording of the transfer agreement when exactly he switches from being a VWFC player to being a FCBM player, officially. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Thanks guys. I wasn't too familiar with the particulars of the transfer. Didn't know he'd have to wait until January, though perhaps Bayern would want him to train asap regardless. We'll see I guess. Keegan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Obinna said: The tournament is from Nov 1-21 and the international break is 12-21. I also noticed we play on the 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th and 10th. So it would seem to me that Gent may just decided not to release David. Same for Tabla at Barcelona B. Alphonso will likely be done with Vancouver, but does Bayern want him to come right away and get sharp, due to the crisis (some would call it) on the wings? Remember he is 18 on the 2nd, so technically can't he play for them as soon as Nov 3rd against Freiburg? Busti and Millar I expect no issue with, but the other 3 I think could potentially miss out due to club commitments. Side note on Davies: If he can in fact dress for Bayern right away on the 3rd, don't we want him in that first team, or do we want him to play against the U-20 sides of Dominica, Saint Kitts, Guadeloupe and the like? We talk about how the CanMNT should wipe the floor with Saint Kitts, but we need Davies to beat their big, bad U-20 side? That's a bit of a joke! In my opinion the chance to play with Bayern Munich right away is much more important for his overall development than this qualification tournament for the U-20s. I would be shocked if Davies dresses for Bayern immediately. Also I am not overly concerned about beating St. Kitts, however, I do want him there when we play Panama. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Stryker911 said: I would be shocked if Davies dresses for Bayern immediately. Also I am not overly concerned about beating St. Kitts, however, I do want him there when we play Panama. Yeah, this. Only the group winners move on, so we need to beat Panama in addition to the minnows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 7 hours ago, Stryker911 said: I would be shocked if Davies dresses for Bayern immediately. Also I am not overly concerned about beating St. Kitts, however, I do want him there when we play Panama. 1 hour ago, Kent said: Yeah, this. Only the group winners move on, so we need to beat Panama in addition to the minnows. How good are we expecting Panama to be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Obinna said: How good are we expecting Panama to be? See below. A full discussion was already had a few pages back... Edited October 21, 2018 by jpg75 Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 On 9/13/2018 at 8:56 AM, jpg75 said: Panama finished 2nd behind Guatemala at the UNCAF U19's last month. http://www.fepafut.com/noticias/2379/-panam-sub-20-es-subcampen-del-uncaf- Only loss was to Guate (1-0). They beat ES 5-1, CR 4-3 and Honduras 2-0. Sorry, Panama finished 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackjack15 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 On 10/18/2018 at 8:52 AM, shamrock said: The final 20 player list is due 10 days before 10 Days prior to the tournament starting: November 1st, (Tomorrow) prior to the first game - November 2nd (Tuesday) Excited to see what the team will be I wonder why the Provisional 35-man Roster wasn’t released as it wasn’t submitted to CONCACAF a while ago by October 1-2 toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shamrock Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Is says the first game, I assume that is the team's first game, but you could be right in that it's the tournaments first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Diego Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) First, let's see if any of the squads get released today. I don't hold my breath with anything that CONCACAF has dominion over. Edited October 22, 2018 by El Diego Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xabuep2 Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 (edited) In the last women's tournaments and qualifers U17, U20 Canada did not use many of its young talents preferring to use them for the women senior team, being Hermann the coach at that time . Will the same thing happen with the boys ? Edited October 22, 2018 by xabuep2 Blackjack15 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 22, 2018 Share Posted October 22, 2018 Tomorrow then I guess... maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortdutchcanuck Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Check out @24thminute’s Tweet: 72 % in favour of 'All in for u20s' at time of posting (117 votes) toontownman, Blackjack15, dyslexic nam and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 (edited) If this U20 team does not have all our star players, they better have good reasons why ! If not Epic failure On the part of CSA. Also them playing for the senior team playing against St.Kitts is not a good reason !!! Edited October 23, 2018 by SpecialK gator 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 The big european clubs do not have to release the players for this tournament as it is for over 3 weeks and is outside the international window. End of. So I would not expect to see Busti David Ballou or Millar in the squad. This is not the csa but the clubs. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 41 minutes ago, spitfire said: The big european clubs do not have to release the players for this tournament as it is for over 3 weeks and is outside the international window. End of. So I would not expect to see Busti David Ballou or Millar in the squad. This is not the csa but the clubs. Your right they don’t but if U20 national European teams can get their star players released why can’t we ? If we can’t get our players released then the CSA should put pressure on concacaf to fix the tourney around for up and coming tourneys. Also if they are not chosen, the CSA needs to come out and explain why they weren’t. If they don’t that’s an Epic failure. If it’s because clubs won’t release then say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toje Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 Yes, but maybe in the view of Europen clubs some of their Canadian players have been called up too often as of late. They might not be happy to release some players outside of FIFA dates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 6 hours ago, SpecialK said: Your right they don’t but if U20 national European teams can get their star players released why can’t we ? If we can’t get our players released then the CSA should put pressure on concacaf to fix the tourney around for up and coming tourneys. Also if they are not chosen, the CSA needs to come out and explain why they weren’t. If they don’t that’s an Epic failure. If it’s because clubs won’t release then say that. I think you are overreacting here. What the European youth teams do is none of our concern. We are not playing them. All CONCACAF teams including USA and Mexico will be in the same boat as us. We have plenty of domestic players that can get the job done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 And next cycle most of our youth players might be in the CanPL so the CSA can influence them to release our players. All good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Hombre Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 7 hours ago, spitfire said: This is not the csa but the clubs. 6 hours ago, SpecialK said: Your right they don’t but if U20 national European teams can get their star players released why can’t we ? If we can’t get our players released then the CSA should put pressure on concacaf to fix the tourney around for up and coming tourneys. Also if they are not chosen, the CSA needs to come out and explain why they weren’t. If they don’t that’s an Epic failure. If it’s because clubs won’t release then say that. Rule #1: Even when it's not the CSA's fault, its the CSA's fault. red card 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpecialK Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 41 minutes ago, El Hombre said: Rule #1: Even when it's not the CSA's fault, its the CSA's fault. I just want the CSA to communicate and be open to us the fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 8 hours ago, spitfire said: The big european clubs do not have to release the players for this tournament as it is for over 3 weeks and is outside the international window. End of. So I would not expect to see Busti David Ballou or Millar in the squad. This is not the csa but the clubs. True but also, there is significant overlap with an international window, most of those guys are youth players and you can make up to 6 changes. So there is a way to possibly make it work, whether they choose to is a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 13 hours ago, spitfire said: The big european clubs do not have to release the players for this tournament as it is for over 3 weeks and is outside the international window. End of. So I would not expect to see Busti David Ballou or Millar in the squad. This is not the csa but the clubs. David is the only one in this list that it makes much sense that the club wouldn't want to release him. I'm not saying the others will get released, but it's at least feasible that Barcelona doesn't mind letting one of their B players some experience playing some crucial games. Liverpool might be OK with letting a youth player go for a while. Juventus might not mind letting their backup (or is he 3rd string?) youth goalkeeper get some playing time. Wasn't the Dominica game the first game time Busti has had this season? Anyways, the clubs might hold back their players, but it's still my belief that the CSA should at least try to get them to the U20 tournament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spitfire Posted October 23, 2018 Share Posted October 23, 2018 I can tell you that the csa has requested the release for the u20s... Keegan, dyslexic nam, deschamp86 and 5 others 4 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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