PiedPilko Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) He needs to get off this team but I don't think he's shown enough to make it happen. He'll very likely be spending this season on a relegation candidate Pacos. Edited August 26, 2021 by PiedPilko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 (edited) 51 minutes ago, PiedPilko said: He needs to get off this team but I don't think he's shown enough to make it happen. He'll very likely be spending this season on a relegation candidate Pacos. Yes, let’s hope he can get a move up… this journalists seems to think there’s a possibility: Edited August 26, 2021 by TOcanadafan johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Interesting link, no idea how solid. "Fenerbahce wants Stephen Eustáquio The last game with Fr. Ferreira's shirt is about to play tonight Stephen Eustáquio is about to play his last game tonight with Fr. Ferreira's shirt. The midfielder has been followed by many clubs, but the destination could be Fenerbahçe. The Turkish club expressed its desire to have the Canadian international, and the deal could be completed in the next few hours." https://www.record.pt/futebol/futebol-nacional/liga-bwin/p--ferreira/detalhe/fenerbahce-quer-stephen-eustaquio Not Champions League but in the Europa League group stages. johnyb, narduch and dyslexic nam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 1 hour ago, WestHamCanadianinOxford said: Interesting link, no idea how solid. "Fenerbahce wants Stephen Eustáquio The last game with Fr. Ferreira's shirt is about to play tonight Stephen Eustáquio is about to play his last game tonight with Fr. Ferreira's shirt. The midfielder has been followed by many clubs, but the destination could be Fenerbahçe. The Turkish club expressed its desire to have the Canadian international, and the deal could be completed in the next few hours." https://www.record.pt/futebol/futebol-nacional/liga-bwin/p--ferreira/detalhe/fenerbahce-quer-stephen-eustaquio Not Champions League but in the Europa League group stages. Turkish rumours abound. It's rather unusual for effective defensive minds to go late and pricey in the transfer window. Now if he'd scored that Tico free kick vs Spurs.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said: It's rather unusual for effective defensive minds to go late and pricey in the transfer window. Other than Thomas Partey and Tomas Soucek, who are in the top 15 valued in the world,( first was pricey, second effective) I can't think of any off the top of my head. Edited August 29, 2021 by WestHamCanadianinOxford Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Those Eustaqiuo to fenerbache rumours have a lot of steam now. Typically I would not have given them much credence for the reasons mentioned above but who knows WestHamCanadianinOxford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Would get to play with Ozil if this happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 28 minutes ago, narduch said: Would get to play with Ozil if this happens. & Ferdi 😊 Ruffian, Nate3322, dyslexic nam and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestHamCanadianinOxford Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 58 minutes ago, Floortom said: Those Eustaqiuo to fenerbache rumours have a lot of steam now. Typically I would not have given them much credence for the reasons mentioned above but who knows Complete with the bad "Welcome to..." youtube videos. They all seem to come back to the one Portuguese paper, who, it seems, got it from a journalist who is Portuguese but does not work for them. For the record, I, for one, think worse things could happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Reading comments on how many players in the Porto rumour mill end up in Turkey and especially Fenerbace. So it'd make sense in terms of strong agent contacts. Turkish press is all reporting it, but no prices being cited except for Transfermarkt values. Excellent news IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Not a horrible move... still think he could do better. A lot of misreporting of the original source - some outlets are saying the deal is already closed but when they actually link the article, it says there are multiple clubs interested. I hope a few other teams join in to make things interesting at least. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Confirmation from legit Turkish reporter that this rumour has legs Infernal and johnyb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhCanadaOhBaby Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Don’t get me wrong, there are great teams and great players in Turkey. BUT…part of me selfishly wants the rumour to fall through just because I know the talent Eustaquio has and I feel like he deserves a lot better. Maybe I’m not seeing it from every angle, and I get it, if there is no other offers at the table then you can’t complain when one finally does come along but still. If someone could explain why this move makes more sense than staying in Portugal I would love to be enlightened. So far, I see this as taking a step back but I hope I’m wrong johnyb and lamptern 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canadasoccer20 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 12 minutes ago, OhCanadaOhBaby said: Don’t get me wrong, there are great teams and great players in Turkey. BUT…part of me selfishly wants the rumour to fall through just because I know the talent Eustaquio has and I feel like he deserves a lot better. Maybe I’m not seeing it from every angle, and I get it, if there is no other offers at the table then you can’t complain when one finally does come along but still. If someone could explain why this move makes more sense than staying in Portugal I would love to be enlightened. So far, I see this as taking a step back but I hope I’m wrong I guess a positive angle is that he would play in Europa League and his play can be shown across Europe better than league games in Portugal for a future transfer down the road. They also a top 3 club in Turkey, compared to a slightly above average club in Pacos. Also gets to train with legends like Ozil. Just a few that makes it a positive transfer in my opinion. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 17 minutes ago, OhCanadaOhBaby said: Don’t get me wrong, there are great teams and great players in Turkey. BUT…part of me selfishly wants the rumour to fall through just because I know the talent Eustaquio has and I feel like he deserves a lot better. Maybe I’m not seeing it from every angle, and I get it, if there is no other offers at the table then you can’t complain when one finally does come along but still. If someone could explain why this move makes more sense than staying in Portugal I would love to be enlightened. So far, I see this as taking a step back but I hope I’m wrong Fenerbache taking a step back versus Pacos? I wouldn’t agree with that. In terms of why Turkey over Portugal, Turkey is probably offering more money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadaFan123 Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 I’m not convinced that Portugal is a better league than Turkey even. Any difference is negligible in any event. In terms of club there’s no doubt Fenerbahce is a big step up. TOcanadafan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 They're a much better team than Pacos, and I don't buy that Turkey is a lower level than Portugal. Porto/Sporting/Benfica > Besiktas/Galatasaray/Fenerbahce, but there's not much difference after that IMO. Still though, I think it's a disappointing move. I'd take it over staying at Pacos who are shaping up to be a lower table team this season, but Steph can make it at a bigger setup. It's disappointing that no one else seems interested - there's not much else to say. Floortom and TOcanadafan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prairiecanuck Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 16 minutes ago, CanadaFan123 said: I’m not convinced that Portugal is a better league than Turkey even. Any difference is negligible in any event. In terms of club there’s no doubt Fenerbahce is a big step up. I would guess he's getting a big salary raise. Probably double what he's making now, so I'm happy for the player. He also gets to play in the Europa league. If he continues to perform other teams will come calling in a year or two. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhCanadaOhBaby Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 I love how everyone’s positives start with, “I guess” or “If this”. Not very convincing stuff but I get what people are saying. My thing is this, knowing his talent I wouldn’t want to see him spend any more than 1 to 2 MAX seasons outside of either the big 5 leagues or the Champions league. At the very least I feel like he deserves CL if he’s going to settle for a smaller league like Turkey. Club wise I think Fenerbahce is a great club yes, but it’s about the journey and the ultimate destination. The more you spend time floating about outside the Top 5 leagues the less likely you are to make it there(which for me should be Stephs ultimate destination) My fear is that a transfer to Turkey at this point will turn into a longer stay, where I think what’s best for him is a short transfer and on to the next. That’s where my uncertainty comes from about the move, if you knew it would be a one and done situation I’d feel better but you never know. PiedPilko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 You need to have offers from CL clubs to play for them. People here seem to just assume that those offers are out there…but Pacos hasn’t taken them for some reason ?? I think the truth of the matter is this is the best offer yet. Stephen will get a huge increase and will play in Europa and challenge for the league title. It’s a decent move and hopefully bigger clubs come knocking in time. king1010, TOcanadafan and Ruffian 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Floortom said: You need to have offers from CL clubs to play for them. People here seem to just assume that those offers are out there…but Pacos hasn’t taken them for some reason ?? I think the truth of the matter is this is the best offer yet. Stephen will get a huge increase and will play in Europa and challenge for the league title. It’s a decent move and hopefully bigger clubs come knocking in time. For sure. I'm more disappointed that those offers aren't there, when they seemed to be in January. No one remembers this anymore, but Porto were this close to closing a loan-buy agreement in the winter window. It's a chance he has to take, but it sucks that this is his only real option. Personally, I'm just tired of this or that move being a 'Pathway to a higher level' and so on. He's almost 25... there comes a point where that pathway disappears and he spends the rest of his career on a good not great team. Edited August 29, 2021 by PiedPilko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SthMelbRed Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, OhCanadaOhBaby said: Don’t get me wrong, there are great teams and great players in Turkey. BUT…part of me selfishly wants the rumour to fall through just because I know the talent Eustaquio has and I feel like he deserves a lot better. Maybe I’m not seeing it from every angle, and I get it, if there is no other offers at the table then you can’t complain when one finally does come along but still. If someone could explain why this move makes more sense than staying in Portugal I would love to be enlightened. So far, I see this as taking a step back but I hope I’m wrong If he stays in Portugal, he plays less than 40* club matches, at best, with maybe 10 against decent opposition. If he goes to Fenerbahce, he plays over 50* games, with at least half of those against decent opposition. He also gets to experience a new adventure living in one of the world's truly great cities, kicking with Atiba and Cyle during the week (except in the lead-up to the derbies), and gets exposed to far more eyes with respect to his next move. Also, when you play every other game at the Saracoglu, and you play 2-4 derbies in Istanbul, which make playing away in Honduras or El Salvador that much less daunting. *form and injuries permitting. Edited August 30, 2021 by SthMelbRed Infernal, Unnamed Trialist, The Real Marc and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frmr Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Sounds like this ones going through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Marc Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Certainly no Napoli, but not a terrible move - better than Braga and not that far off the big three in Portugal. The only risk is the tendency for Turkish teams to load up on expensive older players that could displace him in the future if he doesn't solidify his spot. Infernal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantic Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Eustaquio’s IG story seems to have lead for some reporters to assume he’s saying goodbye when I’m like 99% sure it’s about playing for Canada next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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