Sal333 Posted October 10, 2021 Share Posted October 10, 2021 8 hours ago, red card said: On US TV, Canada v Mexico got 3 million across 3 Spanish language networks. Univision got 1.9 million. Match would have been a good pickup for Univision Canada to carry assuming Spanish language rights would be cheaper. This was higher than the Jamaica v USA audience of 1.9 million across 3 networks. More people watched on 2 Spanish language networks as ESPN2 only got 596k. Vs other sports, Canada v Mexico was only behind a NFL game. Vs all programs, it was just outside the top 10. https://showbuzzdaily.com/articles/showbuzzdailys-thursday-10-7-2021-top-150-cable-originals-network-finals.html What that tells me is we should have more Mexican immigration to this country so that the networks will have better ratings. Better ratings means more exposure. More exposure means better ratings. Better ratings means more money in CSA's coffers. Now for the 100 million dollar question. Does more money in CSA's coffers mean better national teams? Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted October 13, 2021 Share Posted October 13, 2021 (edited) On 10/10/2021 at 7:46 AM, Sal333 said: What that tells me is we should have more Mexican immigration to this country so that the networks will have better ratings. Better ratings means more exposure. More exposure means better ratings. Better ratings means more money in CSA's coffers. Now for the 100 million dollar question. Does more money in CSA's coffers mean better national teams? It would also mean Canada would have 2-3 Spanish language tv networks carrying all the major football matches including UCL & South American qualifiers. On Mexican TV, 11.7 million watched the Canada match across 2 networks. It was the second highest as Costa Rica match got 12.3 million. https://www.infobae.com/america/deportes/2021/10/08/televisa-o-tv-azteca-que-televisora-se-llevo-el-rating-del-mexico-vs-canada/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter Canada vs Jamaica on Sportsnet saw an audience of 186k. A bit higher than vs Mexico but basically the same as El Salvador match. By trawling through the interweb archives, here are some of the 2018 WCQ cycle ratings. Basically, 2021 ratings so far are in the similar range to higher. Caveats are that it is the final round now and the number of households de-subscribing from a tv package or never had a tv sub has increased materially. November 2015 vs Honduras: 204k March 2016 vs Mexico: 142k September 2016 vs Honduras: 115k Edited October 13, 2021 by red card Cblake and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 That's a pretty big number considering it was only on Sportsnet 1 Kent, Xavier., johnyb and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cblake Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, narduch said: That's a pretty big number considering it was only on Sportsnet 1 That is a huge number , great to hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) Leafs/Habs (SN) 1.387M Oilers/Canucks (SM) 1.045M Canada/Panama (SN1) 338K Edited October 14, 2021 by Joe MacCarthy Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sal333 Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 5 minutes ago, Joe MacCarthy said: Leafs/Habs (SN) 1.387M Oilers/Canucks (SM) 1.045M Canada/Panama (SN1) 338K That 338K is almost decent. I'm hoping a few more plays where Fonzie shows he's a super hero from another planet and we can bring those numbers to at least 7-800 K. I just have to shake my head. Two rather meaningless season openers get triple & quadruple the viewership of a life or death qualification round. Cblake 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cblake Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 1 hour ago, Sal333 said: That 338K is almost decent. I'm hoping a few more plays where Fonzie shows he's a super hero from another planet and we can bring those numbers to at least 7-800 K. I just have to shake my head. Two rather meaningless season openers get triple & quadruple the viewership of a life or death qualification round. It is the country we live in, no point in pulling your hair out over it, it is what is it. Leafs Habs regardless of how good or bad they are will always draw. This should always be about the growth of the beautiful game in this country and not worry about what the others are doing. Sal333, johnyb and Markus 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 I support OneSoccer, of course, and Sportsnet One is one of the less subscribed Sportsnet channels. But it's nice not to have every second reply to a Phonzie or Tajon WCQ highlight being "too bad we can't watch" or some other such BS. dyslexic nam, Ruffian, Free kick and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted October 16, 2021 Share Posted October 16, 2021 (edited) 26k for RDS. Based on Quebec's population share, it should have been higher. But it's about the same number who watched TFC V FCC the Wednesday night a week before this international break. The later Whitecaps v Dynamo match also got similar numbers at 30k. Edited October 16, 2021 by red card narduch, RS and johnyb 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted October 17, 2021 Share Posted October 17, 2021 (edited) Forgive me if someone already posted something like this , but yes TV ratings are still a good barometer of how what kind of awareness this team is getting . Moreover , the TV numbers for that Canada game against Panama are decent but compared to the hockey numbers there is no comparison as we have seen by what hockey got , and they got so much more it wasn’t even close . However, as has been mentioned the station that the Canadian World Cup qualifying game was on played apart in the much smaller numbers compared to hockey . The very good news is that’s it’s 2021 not 1980 and there are other ways to measure the relevance of this national team . Canada soccer had more mentions on Twitter than any of the hockey games on Wednesday night . The Davies goal had millions of views more than anything from any of the hockey games that night . Therefore, yes TV ratings are very important and probably still king , but let’s not forget it’s 2021 and there are also other ways to measure how popular this last round of qualifying is in Canada . Edited October 17, 2021 by SoccMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 On 10/14/2021 at 3:04 PM, Sal333 said: That 338K is almost decent. I'm hoping a few more plays where Fonzie shows he's a super hero from another planet and we can bring those numbers to at least 7-800 K. I just have to shake my head. Two rather meaningless season openers get triple & quadruple the viewership of a life or death qualification round. We live in a Hockey crazed Country , On Wednesday I took the Go Train to BMO and to be honest on the train at around 5:00pm it seemed to be a 2 to 1 ratio of Leaf fans compared to CMNT fans . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 338 000 is decent . especially with NHL season openers and MLB playoffs going on at the same time. narduch and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 (edited) 7 hours ago, SoccMan said: Forgive me if someone already posted something like this , but yes TV ratings are still a good barometer of how what kind of awareness this team is getting . Moreover , the TV numbers for that Canada game against Panama are decent but compared to the hockey numbers there is no comparison as we have seen by what hockey got , and they got so much more it wasn’t even close . However, as has been mentioned the station that the Canadian World Cup qualifying game was on played apart in the much smaller numbers compared to hockey . The very good news is that’s it’s 2021 not 1980 and there are other ways to measure the relevance of this national team . Canada soccer had more mentions on Twitter than any of the hockey games on Wednesday night . The Davies goal had millions of views more than anything from any of the hockey games that night . Therefore, yes TV ratings are very important and probably still king , but let’s not forget it’s 2021 and there are also other ways to measure how popular this last round of qualifying is in Canada . Gaming is the most popular entertainment activity amongst the u30 crowd. Not watching tv, either linear or streaming. Netflix has said their biggest competition is gaming and sleeping. So, what is being shown below is much more significant. Edited October 18, 2021 by red card johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maccaliam Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, gigi riva said: We live in a Hockey crazed Country , On Wednesday I took the Go Train to BMO and to be honest on the train at around 5:00pm it seemed to be a 2 to 1 ratio of Leaf fans compared to CMNT fans . It’s funny you say that because I took the go train to BMO and I was just after 5 and the carriage was 90% Canada soccer fans. I felt surrounded by Canadian soccer fans and it made me very happy. gigi riva and Bison44 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted October 18, 2021 Share Posted October 18, 2021 3 hours ago, maccaliam said: It’s funny you say that because I took the go train to BMO and I was just after 5 and the carriage was 90% Canada soccer fans. I felt surrounded by Canadian soccer fans and it made me very happy. I guess it depended on what carriage you were on I was on the Lakeshore West line I started from Burlington Go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xavier. Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Ruffian, Approve My Account Pls, Greatest Cockney Rip Off and 26 others 24 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 That's a massive number for CanMNT. dyslexic nam, An Observer, Floortom and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Club Linesman Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 Maybe a million Tuesday night! Infernal, CanadianSoccerFan and narduch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfreak Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 If you or a loved one was one of the 154k watching that Vancouver Colorado game, you may be entitled to compensation. narduch, Approve My Account Pls and Metro 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 He tweeted more context on the rating. The Flames/Leafs game beat out Canada/Costa Rica for total viewers (it was broadcast on TSN4 in Ontario and Sportsnet West in Alberta), but the soccer game won out in the key 25-54 demographic. footballfreak, Trois Reds, dyslexic nam and 2 others 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianTraveller Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 OMG. If we get 500,000 A25-54 on Sunday Jan 30 (assuming a prime-time start) that's got to be worth $5-10MM in increased sponsorship in 2022-23 should we qualify. 340 is a massive number on a Friday night, although before I get too excited the MNT started just 35 minutes before the end of the Leafs game - it wasn't 340,000 head-to-head. FWIW: Habs host Columbus @ 19:00 ET is the only Canadian hockey game Jan 30. Alas, the game may go head-to-head w/ the NFC Championship game - 18:40 ET. Or the AFC game @ 15:00. First weekend of Scotties (Curling), not finals weekend. If you were CSA, would you gamble on a 22:00 start (7 PM PT) or would you go head-to-head against a big event? To placate the dreamers in another thread...could do 13:00 ET if the game were played out east. If that 25-54 viewership holds, if USA viewership goes ballistic, OneSoccer can forget about winning the rights to CMNT WCQ for a long time.... I hope they hit the jackpot with their SN re-broadcast contract - doubt it, but I hope they did. 500,000 25-54 heads-up against the NFC Champ. 🤤 🤤 🤤 RS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted November 15, 2021 Share Posted November 15, 2021 2 hours ago, RS said: He tweeted more context on the rating. The Flames/Leafs game beat out Canada/Costa Rica for total viewers (it was broadcast on TSN4 in Ontario and Sportsnet West in Alberta), but the soccer game won out in the key 25-54 demographic. Further context would include the RDS numbers for the soccer broadcast and might tip the scales in the other direction, but that's immaterial. A huge number. Tomorrow will undoubtedly be bigger. Sal333 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 1 hour ago, jonovision said: Further context would include the RDS numbers for the soccer broadcast and might tip the scales in the other direction, but that's immaterial. A huge number. Tomorrow will undoubtedly be bigger. A good number let’s keep it going . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted November 16, 2021 Share Posted November 16, 2021 On 10/14/2021 at 6:04 PM, Sal333 said: That 338K is almost decent. I'm hoping a few more plays where Fonzie shows he's a super hero from another planet and we can bring those numbers to at least 7-800 K. Or I guess the very next game can just meet your target! I guess the Fonzie play against Panama helped, and no doubt being on the main Sportsnet channel instead of SN1 helped too. Sal333 and Xavier. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 Over 1 million! zammy67, chalms04, NVsoccer and 23 others 25 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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