CanadianSoccerFan Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 (edited) Was tabled at the FIFA Congress today. If this came into being and killed the confederation championships, I would be ok with it. There's already a major tournament every 2 years but only Europe gets to play in both. Edited October 22, 2021 by CanadianSoccerFan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 In related news. The Million Dollar Man paid the manager of a pool to kick all the kids out so he can sun tan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 24 minutes ago, CanadianSoccerFan said: Was tabled at the FIFA Congress today. If this came into being and killed the confederation championships, I would be ok with it. There's already a major tournament every 2 years but only Europe gets to play in both. The Copa America should be bigger (in terms of importance and global popularity, and it's why I think the Gold Cup and Copa should be merged), and the Africa Cup of Nations is always interesting. Only the current Gold Cup (where with one important exception it's always the US and Mexico) or the OFC (where there's no team of importance - sorry New Zealand soccer) are actually poor/irrelevant. I'd rather see work to improve the regional tournaments than a World Cup every 2 years. SpursFlu, zammy67, One American and 8 others 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 1 hour ago, SpursFlu said: In related news. The Million Dollar Man paid the manager of a pool to kick all the kids out so he can sun tan That DAMN TED DIBIASE! ray and El Hombre 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP10 Posted May 21, 2021 Share Posted May 21, 2021 I personally don’t agree with it because I feel it would give the tournament less meaning SoccMan, xabuep2, LeoH037 and 7 others 9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 6 hours ago, Watchmen said: The Copa America should be bigger (in terms of importance and global popularity, and it's why I think the Gold Cup and Copa should be merged), and the Africa Cup of Nations is always interesting. Only the current Gold Cup (where with one important exception it's always the US and Mexico) or the OFC (where there's no team of importance - sorry New Zealand soccer) are actually poor/irrelevant. I'd rather see work to improve the regional tournaments than a World Cup every 2 years. The irony of FIFAgate is that it killed the prospect of future joint tournaments. The joint-confederation agreement for the 2016 Centenario was only made possible by the $100M in bribes the executives received. CONMEBOL isn't touching US jurisdiction with a 10 foot pole. beachesl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Yeah, I see it as a lose-lose situation. You lose confederation championships, which would suck, and the World Cup's importance is diluted, which would suck. I want the Gold Cup to be every 4 years to give it more meaning, so I am going in the opposite direction of this proposal. LeoH037 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watchmen Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 3 hours ago, CanadianSoccerFan said: The irony of FIFAgate is that it killed the prospect of future joint tournaments. The joint-confederation agreement for the 2016 Centenario was only made possible by the $100M in bribes the executives received. CONMEBOL isn't touching US jurisdiction with a 10 foot pole. Time (and money) heals all wounds. The CONMEBOL reps will be in the US for the World Cup. Wouldn't be shocked to see CONCACAF support the Argentina/Uruguay/Paraguay World Cup bid. The joint-confederation agreement didn't move forward because of squabbles over control between CONCACAF (with more member nations) and CONMEBOL (with a much higher quality of member). Even then, another joint tournament probably could have happened if the US hadn't ridiculously tried to host it a 2nd time. Ultimately, I think it makes the most sense for both confederations, and they'll get there....eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One American Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) I would rather it be a cycle of WC, GC, Centenario, WCQ final round, WC. Edited May 22, 2021 by One American Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gigi riva Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 it will never happen UEFA and CONMEBAL will make sure of this Both the Euros and The Copa America are huge revenue makers for each confederations Like Watchman said I would rather see improvements to mregional tournaments than a World Cup every two years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 5 hours ago, gigi riva said: it will never happen UEFA and CONMEBAL will make sure of this Both the Euros and The Copa America are huge revenue makers for each confederations Like Watchman said I would rather see improvements to mregional tournaments than a World Cup every two years It was actually CONMEBOL that got Infantino on this path back in 2018 https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/nov/23/world-cup-two-years-fifa-conmebol narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 Conmebol could still run the Copa America on the odd years. Its not like it requires qualifying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 11 hours ago, Watchmen said: Time (and money) heals all wounds. The CONMEBOL reps will be in the US for the World Cup. Wouldn't be shocked to see CONCACAF support the Argentina/Uruguay/Paraguay World Cup bid. The joint-confederation agreement didn't move forward because of squabbles over control between CONCACAF (with more member nations) and CONMEBOL (with a much higher quality of member). Even then, another joint tournament probably could have happened if the US hadn't ridiculously tried to host it a 2nd time. Ultimately, I think it makes the most sense for both confederations, and they'll get there....eventually. I was getting at something more sinister. Having read Ken Bensinger's book I'm more inclined to cynicism. If this was purely about football then it would get done for all the reasons you mentioned but look at it through the lens of the people making the decisions and their personal conflicts of interest. If you're a CONMEBOL Executive who wants to get money on the side from marketing companies and TV networks without getting a knock on the door from the FBI then all you have to do is steer clear of US jurisdiction. CONCACAF is a US based entity so just by engaging with them opens the door for the FBI to stick their nose in. A joint tournament makes all the sense in the world, but not necessarily for the individuals with the power to make it happen. TOcanadafan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 22 hours ago, SpursFlu said: In related news. The Million Dollar Man paid the manager of a pool to kick all the kids out so he can sun tan Bill Clinton also hopped on a plane to England and smoked a big fat joint. Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOcanadafan Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 World Cup every 3 years, Euro on one of the off years, combined Conmebol/Gold Cup on the other. AfricanNC and AsianCup smack in the middle winter... that’d be my wish. CanadianSoccerFan and ghostknownunknown 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted May 22, 2021 Author Share Posted May 22, 2021 1 minute ago, TOcanadafan said: World Cup every 3 years, Euro on one of the off years, combined Conmebol/Gold Cup on the other. AfricanNC and AsianCup smack in the middle winter... that’d be my wish. I feel 3 years is a fair compromise. Nations League can be scrapped. Continental qualifiers can be reduced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
red card Posted May 22, 2021 Share Posted May 22, 2021 (edited) This looks like people scratching each other's back. Gianni Infantino visited Saudi Arabia this January and the Saudis used it to put out a PR video to paper over their human rights violations. Includes cringy Infantino statements like Saudi food is top...very tasty. And even though the proposal wants a Women's WC every two years, the Saudis passed a law in 2008 banning a women's national team. Though, they are ahead of Canada in one area as earlier this year Saudi Arabia decided to launch a football league for women. Edited May 22, 2021 by red card Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ADP10 Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 I wouldn’t mind having the World Cup every three years. It would probably extend the Gold Cup to every three years too, which i’m happy with CanadianSoccerFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TGAA_Star Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 23 hours ago, TOcanadafan said: World Cup every 3 years, Euro on one of the off years, combined Conmebol/Gold Cup on the other. AfricanNC and AsianCup smack in the middle winter... that’d be my wish. In that case I wouldn't mind CanadianSoccerFan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lamptern Posted May 23, 2021 Share Posted May 23, 2021 World Cup every 3 years is a good idea. CanadianSoccerFan and TGAA_Star 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyb Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 On 5/22/2021 at 2:00 PM, TOcanadafan said: World Cup every 3 years, Euro on one of the off years, combined Conmebol/Gold Cup on the other. AfricanNC and AsianCup smack in the middle winter... that’d be my wish. Euro would have to move to every 3 years also for this to work. Which I would be in favour of. narduch and CanadianSoccerFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpursFlu Posted May 26, 2021 Share Posted May 26, 2021 (edited) How about leaving the most successful sporting event on the planet how is. Just a thought I'm sure Saudi Arabia would love to force people to go to their country (and of course only wealthy people) in order to watch their national team play but im not in to it But since everyone is broke I'm sure they'll try and justify eating that apple Edited May 26, 2021 by SpursFlu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 If it ain’t broke don’t fix it . Keep the World Cup every fours years . Moreover, I hope they still keep groups of 4 when they go to 48. This idea of going to groups of 3 is a complete mockery . So teams only guaranteed 2 games , that’s a joke . johnyb, xabuep2 and Free kick 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrennanFan Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, SoccMan said: If it ain’t broke don’t fix it . Keep the World Cup every fours years . Moreover, I hope they still keep groups of 4 when they go to 48. This idea of going to groups of 3 is a complete mockery . So teams only guaranteed 2 games , that’s a joke . It's already been decided that it will be 16 groups of 3. Top 2 progress to a 32 round knock out. Stupid enough for you? johnyb, Free kick and narduch 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnyb Posted May 27, 2021 Share Posted May 27, 2021 19 hours ago, BrennanFan said: It's already been decided that it will be 16 groups of 3. Top 2 progress to a 32 round knock out. Stupid enough for you? So, just a 2 game opening round? Kent and narduch 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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