DeRo_Is_King Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 26 minutes ago, toontownman said: So much can change from now until November. Corbeanu could be starting for Wolves in September and breaking out in the PL. He could also be still at MK Dons. Who knows. Could be player injuries could be players we aren't even aware of emerging. There are no closed doors (IF we qualify for Qatar) right now. True, but this is still disappointing imo. He's in form and is a really exciting player. Great attitude as well. toontownman 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 Perhaps Herdman is looking at 2 away games in CA and thinking I need experience and Concacaf savvy vets. Theo is going to a big part of our future going forward PastPros 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJsens1 Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 7 minutes ago, Kadenge said: Perhaps Herdman is looking at 2 away games in CA and thinking I need experience and Concacaf savvy vets. Theo is going to a big part of our future going forward I’m surprised at how many people are surprised that he wasn’t called. Would I have been shocked? Not at all, but I think this was the right choice for now Xavier., Kent and Obinna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 7 hours ago, Obinna said: When I say key I mean these players: Eustaquio (ability), Davies (ability), David (ability), Larin (form), Atiba (experience), Johnston (flexibility) and Vitoria (lack of depth). You can argue that losing the other players is less worrisome, at least for me that's how I see it. That doesn't mean some of them are not really important, like Buchanan for instance, but if we don't have Tajon for whatever reason we have players who can replace what he brings, for the most part. Nobody can replace Atiba's experience, Johnston's positional flexibility, Davies' ability, etc. If we have no Buchanan we have Millar, if we have no Miller we have Kennedy or Cornelius, if we have no Laryea we have Brault-Guillard, if we have no Adekugbe we have Gutierrez, if we have no Borjan we have Crepeau, etc. IMO I think you are underestimating the "key" guys. The Gold Cup (albeit not as successful as the manager wanted it to be) was a testament to the quality of our team, and it solidified some guys as key players when so many were absent. Eustaquio, Davies, David, Larin, Atiba, Johnston, Vitoria is who you listed to which I agree are key players. But I would also add Buchanan, Laryea,...I had Borjan in there originally but you're right (like in the Gold Cup) we have seen he can be replaced by Crepeau. However for you to basically put Buchanan and Millar, Laryea and ZBG on the same level is beyonnnd me. Buchanan has etched himself as a key piece within a year of putting on a red jersey. There's a reason why he's easily surpassed Millar with in that time frame. His consistent output at club and country is immense, and it's ridiculous to say that if we don't have him we have Millar. Full stop disagree. Likewise for Laryea...completely different abilities as to ZBG. I haven't seen ZBG do what Laryea has. But it's not to say that these guys can't come into the position and do a job, the main question is "will there be drop off"...absolutely. Which makes them not key guys - for me. Right now- right now, those guys (Tajon, Richie) threat level lets just say is on 8. ZBG, Millar, is on 5. But go ahead, I'm not mad atcha you, you too want a signed jersey.😁 Sal333 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Interesting. Kyle_The_Hill, johnyb, Floortom and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasi Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 makes 5 minutes ago, narduch said: Interesting. Makes sense if those reasons are because he wants to acclimatize to the new club. Approve My Account Pls, johnyb, Shway and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 I think it makes sense from Corbeanu's perspective given his new club and the fact that he's locking in a spot in the starting XI. Hopefully Herdman doesnt hold a grudge against him for this canuckgbp 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccMan Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Floortom said: I think it makes sense from Corbeanu's perspective given his new club and the fact that he's locking in a spot in the starting XI. Hopefully Herdman doesnt hold a grudge against him for this So Laryea could have declined for the same reason , but he is there . king1010 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VanMetropole Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, narduch said: Interesting. I've heard Theo took the Arfield retirement really hard. Still needs some time. Edited January 25, 2022 by VanMetropole Double gif lmao Shway, An Observer, Obinna and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJsens1 Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 4 minutes ago, SoccMan said: So Laryea could have declined for the same reason , but he is there . It said personal reasons. After the last year and a half for everyone around the world, I’ll give someone the benefit of the doubt if that’s what is said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Floortom Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 5 minutes ago, SoccMan said: So Laryea could have declined for the same reason , but he is there . Well Laryea hasnt even suited up for the club yet so he's hardly giving up as much. I think it's different. Also Theo would miss two matches while Richie only one. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Approve My Account Pls Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 6 minutes ago, SoccMan said: So Laryea could have declined for the same reason , but he is there . The difference is Laryea knows he's playing at least two full matches, if not more. Realistically at best Theo would feature in limited minutes as a sub. The Real Marc, Ivan, Norrin Radd and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Hmm, this is an interesting situation. I really enjoyed watching Theo when he played at the Gold Cup and always check on his results whether it be for Sheffield Wednesday or the Dons. As a long time CMNT fan it hurts a little when guys turn down a call up (perhaps due to obvious reasons over the past several decades). I do concur that unless there is a Covid outbreak or a string of injuries that Theo likely wouldn't have seen a lot of the field, so his decision to stay with his club right now makes good sense and I respect that. Hopefully he keeps that forward momentum going with the Dons and we see him back in March or over the Summer for Nations League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 1 hour ago, narduch said: Interesting. Is there any interpretation of Canada's COVID rules by which Eustaquio would be allowed to enter the country before the 30th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frattinator Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 7 minutes ago, jonovision said: Is there any interpretation of Canada's COVID rules by which Eustaquio would be allowed to enter the country before the 30th? Standard I’m not a lawyer disclaimer, but from reading the travel.gc.ca guidelines: https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/covid-vaccinated-travellers-entering-canada#entry-vaccinated, as long as he’s fully vaccinated and not symptomatic, as far as I can tell he should be able to come into Canada provided he has a negative PCR test less than 72 hours prior to entry. The 11 days post recovery is only applicable if he wants to be exempt from the pre-arrival testing requirement. though on the other hand, if you use the travel.go.ca checklist thing it asks if you have had symptoms of COVID in the past 10 days and if you answered yes it says you can’t travel. This is definitely at odds at the other link and might be the source of some of this confusion. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 It has to be real personal, if he declined the chance to play in his hometown king1010, Kadenge, sebdeserio and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 33 minutes ago, frattinator said: Standard I’m not a lawyer disclaimer, but from reading the travel.gc.ca guidelines: https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/covid-vaccinated-travellers-entering-canada#entry-vaccinated, as long as he’s fully vaccinated and not symptomatic, as far as I can tell he should be able to come into Canada provided he has a negative PCR test less than 72 hours prior to entry. The 11 days post recovery is only applicable if he wants to be exempt from the pre-arrival testing requirement. though on the other hand, if you use the travel.go.ca checklist thing it asks if you have had symptoms of COVID in the past 10 days and if you answered yes it says you can’t travel. This is definitely at odds at the other link and might be the source of some of this confusion. I haven't paid attention to the travel rules recently, but if you are a Canadian citizen can't you always come in to Canada? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 52 minutes ago, jonovision said: Is there any interpretation of Canada's COVID rules by which Eustaquio would be allowed to enter the country before the 30th? I don't want to start rumors but maybe he isn't vaccinated? I think he just wants to establish himself at the club level. A good loan spell could mean another shot at the Prem johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unnamed Trialist Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 If the reasons Theo explained to Herdman were related to wanting to settle into a loan deal at a new club, for me he is out of the NT picture. I have never seen a player ever turn down a call up for Spain for anything other than health reasons, except for friendlies. I have even see guys miss a brother's wedding or miss a birth of a child. It is just a general principle. We are used to stuff in Canada because we've been hard pressed to get players to commit. Now, and after the Arfield debate, things should change. If Theo has other personal motives that are legit, I am sure Herdman will accept them. If not, I'd say he's hurt his chances going forwards and hurt them for Qatar if we make it and his curve stays positive. The Real Marc and BrennanFan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frattinator Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 8 hours ago, Kent said: I haven't paid attention to the travel rules recently, but if you are a Canadian citizen can't you always come in to Canada? You are right, but then you must undergo the mandatory quarantine period which would automatically makes it impossible for him to play in the US game. To not be quarantined you have to show proof of vaccination and negative test, which might be why he is included in the squad since he might be able to do that? johnyb and Kent 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadenge Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 25 minutes ago, frattinator said: You are right, but then you must undergo the mandatory quarantine period which would automatically makes it impossible for him to play in the US game. To not be quarantined you have to show proof of vaccination and negative test, which might be why he is included in the squad since he might be able to do that? You need a negative PCR test before boarding a flight to Canada Shway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueseeka Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 Didn't expect anyone to turn down the opportunity this close to qualifying. sstackho and king1010 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTD Canuck Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 9 hours ago, frattinator said: though on the other hand, if you use the travel.go.ca checklist thing it asks if you have had symptoms of COVID in the past 10 days and if you answered yes it says you can’t travel. This is definitely at odds at the other link and might be the source of some of this confusion. If he's asymptomatic then he can answer no to the symptoms question, provide his negative test 72 hours prior to the flight and not break any rules. johnyb 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyson M Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 55 minutes ago, Kadenge said: You need a negative PCR test before boarding a flight to Canada Not true for private flights is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted January 25, 2022 Share Posted January 25, 2022 9 hours ago, narduch said: I don't want to start rumors but maybe he isn't vaccinated? I think he just wants to establish himself at the club level. A good loan spell could mean another shot at the Prem My post (off-topic, I guess) was about Eustaquio. That could be the case with Corbeanu. Who knows? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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