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2 hours ago, dyslexic nam said:

The chance to watch Liga MX is very cool.  Glad to see OneSoccer moving quickly to add quality content.  Early on there was lots of speculation about value for money.  This helps put that issue to bed. 

I was also shocked last night when I logged on and saw a Chinese League match at the top, that took me aback. 

I won't watch China, but Mexico, Cavallini, the odd time I just might. 

 

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One Media are absolutely laughing. It's just a matter of winding down contracts for the leagues they already distribute. At that point either they moved to one soccer or they get even more money from other bidders. They hold all the cards and can afford to play the long game with things like the EPL and leagues they dont already distribute and sell themselves. 

Edit: with all the additional content they need a serious overhaul though on the app. It just screams at you right now and needs quicker more obvious organizing. I think you can filter what you see on the main page but with the amount of games and content being added it will be hard to scroll through things and get what you want.

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Techno moron venting

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On 7/11/2019 at 12:17 PM, Unnamed Trialist said:

I was also shocked last night when I logged on and saw a Chinese League match at the top, that took me aback. 

I won't watch China, but Mexico, Cavallini, the odd time I just might. 

 

So embarrassed: I got up really early this morn and ended up watching the last 20 minutes of Guangzhou Evergrande against Dalian Aerbin. Cannavaro vs. Benitez on the benches. Paulinho playing like Ibra, waltzing through the rival defence. Amazing crowd have to say. 

I am glad that One Soccer will now see they are getting fans in Canada for Chinese Super League, though I doubt too many.

Edit: funny that @MM3/MM2/MM did exactly the same thing as I did, boy are we desperate....

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11 hours ago, Reign said:

Yeah. Apparently the onesoccer crew packed up and left during the weather delay. That is pathetic. 

I suppose it depends on whether they really were a onesoccer crew or people locally who were hired for it as a part-time gig at a fixed time and had families to get back to and a regular job to still show up for the following day.

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40 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

I suppose it depends on whether they really were a onesoccer crew or people locally who were hired for it as a part-time gig at a fixed time and had families to get back to and a regular job to still show up for the following day.

Really doesn't matter. If you hired to do a job, you don't take off and leave the job before it is finished. Could you imagine a Blue Jays game and Buck and Pat say hey to bad were leaving, we don't want to wait out a rain out.  It was very unprofessional. Second rating broadcasting at best from onesoccer. I waited hours for the game to start, I think they could have as well.

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1 hour ago, sting said:

That is hilarious. Dangerous for them but not the players or Edmonton who showed video clips of the game.

Last I looked Edmonton players do not play hardwired into power units. 

People are being a bit ridiculous about this, frankly. I have seen how similar mobile units work in Spain, for Footers, and while they should have a van for the producer, those calling are out in the open. Just last June there was a major downpour in the middle of a broadcast in a  promotion playoff game I went to, and I was right beside the announcers, and I can say that if that rain had continued 15 m more, they would have had to stop.

My personal opinion is that some of the comments here are absolutely asinine, let's try posting as adults.

edit> I think onesoccer are modelling their service after Footters, active in lower leagues offering on demand in Spain, which does a similar level of broadcast, but the set ups can be precarious at times. https://www.footters.com 

Especially when it comes to having a covered press box in a stadium from where to call a match. Does Clarke have such facilities?

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Lofty said:

If safety is the reason then this is going to become a regular thing: whenever there is lightning, they will pack up and leave.

A couple of questions though:

Why was it safe during the two hours they stayed, which happens to be the time when the match was expected to be played?

Why didn't they stay when the match started so that they could start broadcasting again if at some point it became safe to do so?

Perhaps somebody who uses twitter could ask these questions so that we can all be amused by the answers (which are not likely to be forthcoming).

Typical childish @Lofty post. Another one to block in due time sadly. 

All I can say is this: I have received answers from one soccer service within 20 minutes, extremely fast. Implying that they don't respond is  simply false and fits into the infantile narrative we are seeing here all too often. 

If the equipment was damaged in the rain, for example, or if there was risk of damage which connecting it would have exacerbated, that is why it was possibly not safe. In any case, your questions are premised on lies. No one said it was safe in the rain but not after, that is simply stupid. 

The real question I have is why the CPL cannot create minimum conditions at their stadiums as a basic minimum requirement so that they can be broadcasted? Of why is FCE so damn cheap that they'll take MedioPro money, in the millions but not spend a few thousand to properly protect electronic broadcasting equipment from a rainstorm.

If it is easy to say you'll quit One Soccer for an error, just be consistent and stop paying for tickets to games at a club that mistreats fans so blatantly and cheaply.

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3 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

Especially when it comes to having a covered press box in a stadium from where to call a match. Does Clarke have such facilities?

 

They do have a press box, nothing fancy though.

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1 hour ago, CDNFootballer said:

They do have a press box, nothing fancy though.

Well I guess it is just that backwater called Edmonton, where they can take money invested from the other side of the world but are too cheap to spend it properly on decent facilities? Is that what you are all saying?

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20 hours ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

The real question I have is why the CPL cannot create minimum conditions at their stadiums as a basic minimum requirement so that they can be broadcasted? Of why is FCE so damn cheap that they'll take MedioPro money, in the millions but not spend a few thousand to properly protect electronic broadcasting equipment from a rainstorm.

This is a worker safety issue. Other teams in North America face similar conditions and they continue to broadcast but that is up to teams and MediaPro to work together to ensure safe working conditions.

 

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1 hour ago, ted said:

This is a worker safety issue. Other teams in North America face similar conditions and they continue to broadcast but that is up to teams and MediaPro to work together to ensure safe working conditions.
 

I am just reacting to people overstating the situation. 

Clearly the CPL has to do a better job overall ensuring minimums across the league. They have come a long way, on a lot of levels, and I am sure after a few months, and a first season, they will have learnt a lot. 

I just hope that MediaPro, with their vast experience, is able to come in next November and say to the clubs: "Look, we have to raise some standards in broadcast quality, and you clubs have to do your part."

As I see it, we need to ensure quality camera angles, not that low one at Pacific, which I find the worst. We need to ensure worker safety and quality of conditions to broadcast, meaning being covered and, preferably, in an enclosed cabin. If you want crowd noise, mike it separately (which they clearly do in some cases, York9 comes across very loud even with there are a dozen supporters there). The whole question of unifying colours in stadiums can be worked on more, although they have done some work there. We also have to ensure that what the camera angle sees are fans in seats. It makes no sense for Hamilton to sell upper tier, that is plain dumb. And of course York9 needs a lot of work in that regard. 

Then MediaPro has to ensure simultaneous broadcasts, that half-time shows may break for not just one game but multtiple (even if the main studio is doing mostly one, or if one game gets a pitch-side commentary instead of a studio analysis). We need almost immediate highlight reels, within an hour ideally, or less. The web has to more clear state what is available as it is not clear, especially after live matches finish. They have to diversify their reporters as some are real bores and total duds. If they are going to be offering some key matchups to foreign markets, they need to use that to upscale values, stadium by stadium and club by club. Many of us are still a bit lost as to where to look for what. 

The product on the pitch is a great surprise. The reffing has been solid, happy to say, I think it is in there with other leagues (comme si, comme ça is a universal standard in reffing). I think OneSoccer has also done a good job, considering limited lead time and experience. For me the piece that is weakest in CPL is fan support, I'd like to see another 30% more fans in the weaker stadiums next season.

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7 minutes ago, Unnamed Trialist said:

I am just reacting to people overstating the situation. 

Clearly the CPL has to do a better job overall ensuring minimums across the league. They have come a long way, on a lot of levels, and I am sure after a few months, and a first season, they will have learnt a lot. 

I just hope that MediaPro, with their vast experience, is able to come in next November and say to the clubs: "Look, we have to raise some standards in broadcast quality, and you clubs have to do your part."

As I see it, we need to ensure quality camera angles, not that low one at Pacific, which I find the worst. We need to ensure worker safety and quality of conditions to broadcast, meaning being covered and, preferably, in an enclosed cabin. If you want crowd noise, mike it separately (which they clearly do in some cases, York9 comes across very loud even with there are a dozen supporters there). The whole question of unifying colours in stadiums can be worked on more, although they have done some work there. We also have to ensure that what the camera angle sees are fans in seats. It makes no sense for Hamilton to sell upper tier, that is plain dumb. And of course York9 needs a lot of work in that regard. 

Then MediaPro has to ensure simultaneous broadcasts, that half-time shows may break for not just one game but multtiple (even if the main studio is doing mostly one, or if one game gets a pitch-side commentary instead of a studio analysis). We need almost immediate highlight reels, within an hour ideally, or less. The web has to more clear state what is available as it is not clear, especially after live matches finish. They have to diversify their reporters as some are real bores and total duds. If they are going to be offering some key matchups to foreign markets, they need to use that to upscale values, stadium by stadium and club by club. Many of us are still a bit lost as to where to look for what. 

The product on the pitch is a great surprise. The reffing has been solid, happy to say, I think it is in there with other leagues (comme si, comme ça is a universal standard in reffing). I think OneSoccer has also done a good job, considering limited lead time and experience. For me the piece that is weakest in CPL is fan support, I'd like to see another 30% more fans in the weaker stadiums next season.

I would add media coverage as well to your last point. 

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5 minutes ago, narduch said:

I would add media coverage as well to your last point. 

You mean a press department able to ensure media coverage? 

I have not really been atttuned to this, but do see articles on Pacific FC in the Times Colonist, which is pleasing. 

Could anyone say what the media support has been for each club in terms of:

-print newspapers with online 

-local radio programs, and even broadcasts

-local tv coverage

-presence of team on larger affiliates and national media outlets

-specialised sports webs, soccer webs, podcasts

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I sort of meant Mainstream media coverage.

But that isn't really something the league can control.

In the Toronto area York9 are nearly non-existent.

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8 minutes ago, narduch said:

I sort of meant Mainstream media coverage.

But that isn't really something the league can control.

In the Toronto area York9 are nearly non-existent.

I think that was perfectly predictable, it is clearly lost in the overall media landscape. 

The same could happen in Montreal, but with Laval being across the river, you may have some clearer separation and get some coverage that way. The same could be predicted for a team in the Fraser Valley, Surrey. I would suspect a Laval or Surrey team would do slightly better than York9 in terms of what you are talking about, but would be faced with similar problems. 

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2 hours ago, ted said:

This is a worker safety issue. Other teams in North America face similar conditions and they continue to broadcast but that is up to teams and MediaPro to work together to ensure safe working conditions.

With reports that they left 10 minutes before the players were back on the pitch, and players don't return to the pitch until there's been 30 minutes without lightening ... then how would it be a worker safety issue?

A "nothing was working any more" issue or a miscommunication would sound more likely.

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