Complete Homer Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 (edited) In my opinion, the fact that Camara will be 33 next WCQ isn't an argument against bringing him on board He'll be an aging option at that point, sure, but how is that an argument against bringing him on board? It would be nice to assume Aird or Chung will be a far better option than a 33 year old Camara, but if they aren't, we are going to be pretty glad Camara stuck around for a bit. If they are better, no real harm or foul, they will overtake his spot in due course. Looking to 2022 isn't useful, in my opinion. Even if qualifying was realistic, lots of teams have turnover between the qualifying roster and the roster sent to the WC. If Camara helps us get to that unlikely bridge crossing, no one will be complaining that he is too old to help in 2022. To me, the only real argument for bringing Camara on board is that it limits the time Aird gets to form cohesion with the rest of the lineup in the next few years. While that is not an empty argument, I don't think it's enough to justify leaving Camara out. Heck, it would be nice seeing guys fighting for the RB spot for the first time in memory EDIT: Not only that, but anyone able to play CB at a decent level should be looked at. Edited October 22, 2016 by Complete Homer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 On 10/21/2016 at 0:21 PM, farrelld said: Ignoring the fact Camara isn't eligible yet and imagining he can play for Canada. Camara isn't a real RB his primary position is CB like Henry but because he plays there with Montreal quite often he has become more used to playing RB. Aird started as an attacking winger and moved to RB with his club only recently so he is still learning the defensive side that Camara already knew. If you want the best chance to win the gold cup I think you go with Camara starting over Aird. If you want to use the gold cup to help develop players for WCQ I would start Aird over Camara. Nope this post is absolutely false. Camara has mostly played RB for the Impact. He is also the 2nd best CB on the team after Ciman so sometimes he plays CB as well depending how our other fullbacks are playing. Earlier in his career he was a midfielder (and he still has the skillset for that) and I don't remember if he switched before he came to the Impact or after but he has mostly played RB for us and is very good in that position. He is the Impact's best fullback and 2nd best CB and that would be a very good addition to the national team given our weaknesses at both positions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grizzly Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 On 10/21/2016 at 0:21 PM, farrelld said: Ignoring the fact Camara isn't eligible yet and imagining he can play for Canada. Camara isn't a real RB his primary position is CB like Henry but because he plays there with Montreal quite often he has become more used to playing RB. Aird started as an attacking winger and moved to RB with his club only recently so he is still learning the defensive side that Camara already knew. If you want the best chance to win the gold cup I think you go with Camara starting over Aird. If you want to use the gold cup to help develop players for WCQ I would start Aird over Camara. Nope this post is absolutely false. Camara has mostly played RB for the Impact. He is also the 2nd best CB on the team after Ciman so sometimes he plays CB as well depending how our other fullbacks are playing. Earlier in his career he was a midfielder (and he still has the skillset for that) and I don't remember if he switched before he came to the Impact or after but he has mostly played RB for us and is very good in that position. He is the Impact's best fullback and 2nd best CB and that would be a very good addition to the national team given our weaknesses at both positions. nolando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 14 minutes ago, Grizzly said: Nope this post is absolutely false. Camara has mostly played RB for the Impact. He is also the 2nd best CB on the team after Ciman so sometimes he plays CB as well depending how our other fullbacks are playing. Earlier in his career he was a midfielder (and he still has the skillset for that) and I don't remember if he switched before he came to the Impact or after but he has mostly played RB for us and is very good in that position. He is the Impact's best fullback and 2nd best CB and that would be a very good addition to the national team given our weaknesses at both positions. I remember when it was rumoured that Camara was on trial in Montreal in 2011 and he was a midfielder. He started as a midfielder for the Impact for the first year and sometimes played CB because injuries at the back and that's where Marsch was more impressed in him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted October 30, 2016 Share Posted October 30, 2016 Having quality in and around the squad in camps benefits everyone, short term or not. PopePouri, Complete Homer and Shway 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Cap Camara! nolando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamiltonfan Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Cap Evan Bush! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Cap this thread! hamiltonfan, Soccerpro and El Hombre 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 6, 2016 Share Posted November 6, 2016 Retracted... cap Piatti! Ooh wait a minute hamiltonfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted November 7, 2016 Share Posted November 7, 2016 1 hour ago, toontownman said: Retracted... cap Piatti! Ooh wait a minute 3 more years for Piatti...but he'll be 34 by then. Oranje 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shermanator Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 So, will we suddenly see an influx of Americans that want to be nationalized? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 On Monday, November 07, 2016 at 9:05 AM, jpg75 said: 3 more years for Piatti...but he'll be 34 by then. I'll take a 34 year old Piatti. Keegan, hamiltonfan, BradMack and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Complete Homer Posted November 9, 2016 Share Posted November 9, 2016 1 hour ago, shermanator said: So, will we suddenly see an influx of Americans that want to be nationalized? I woke up expecting the border to look like the highways out of Quebec at the last referendum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tovan1 Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) Would Stefan Frei be eligible to play for Canada? I've heard his wife is Canadian. If so, where would he fall on the depth chart? Edited December 11, 2016 by tovan1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zem Posted December 11, 2016 Share Posted December 11, 2016 (edited) 14 minutes ago, tovan1 said: Would Stefan Frei be eligible to play for Canada? I've heard his wife is Canadian. If so, where would he fall on the depth chart? No, you must be a permanent resident of Canada for four years and then plan to live there in the future to qualify for citizenship through a spouse. FIFA also doesn't recognize marriage as a direct way of becoming eligible for another country, you can only do it by becoming a citizen of that country through your spouse. Although he lived here a good while I don't think he ever applied even if he was eligible at one point, and he lives permanently in the U.S. now if I'm not mistaken. Edited December 11, 2016 by Zem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Anyone close to being nationalized ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 Lets just try and get Davies his passport and keep Tabla from going elsewhere eh?? It will be more benifical to put our efforts into youngsters that have options than chasing foreign guys in their 30's. Camara, Piatti..whoever wants to become a citizen, good on ya!! Come on in!! But I hope the guys behind the scenes work on the 16-22 age guys. toontownman and Ruffian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 17, 2017 Share Posted March 17, 2017 What about guys like camillo ? Koffie ? mezquida,techera ? no chance ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bison44 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) I know its going to be depressing but go back and read the thread....basically live in canada for 5 years after getting permanent resident, and then maybe!!! If you never played for hometown nation etc etc etc, long list caveats. Its easier to get a concealed handgun permit in canada than that. Koffie is a no go, discussed at length on another thread for years. Edited March 18, 2017 by Bison44 BCM and jpg75 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sose Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 On 12/11/2016 at 1:10 AM, Zem said: No, you must be a permanent resident of Canada for four years and then plan to live there in the future to qualify for citizenship through a spouse. FIFA also doesn't recognize marriage as a direct way of becoming eligible for another country, you can only do it by becoming a citizen of that country through your spouse. Although he lived here a good while I don't think he ever applied even if he was eligible at one point, and he lives permanently in the U.S. now if I'm not mistaken. So I guess that rules out Dom Dwyer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dominic94 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 This is depressing, if Camillo hadn't of left he'd be our best striker. And Koffie would of been a good midfield option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackdude Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 2 hours ago, sose said: So I guess that rules out Dom Dwyer For Canada. He's eligible for the US due to residency. Also, we shouldn't expect to get players good enough to make the national team though nationalisation. 5 years is a long time to stay here as a footballer, and it's a third of a footballer's career. You will most of the time get players on the decline by the time that they are eligible. I'm not against it, but we shouldn't expect anything about it. What are the odds that a footballer stays for 5 years in Canada? I'd say it's around 3-4 %. Just look at the players who were there in 2012. How many are still there? I think Bush and Camara are the only two players still playing here. Bush wouldn't be eligible for citizenship since he lives in Ohio during the winter. And I wouldn't consider him for the next cycle. Ruffian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stryker911 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 As far as I can tell both Camara and Calum Mallace would meet the 5 year criteria. Camara just turned 31so he could be around for 4 or 5 more years. He is worth giving a call to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baulderdash77 Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) I think Camara would be our starting RB right now if he was nationalized. Mallace would be a depth player for us but good depth. Edited March 18, 2017 by baulderdash77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macksam Posted March 18, 2017 Share Posted March 18, 2017 (edited) On December 11, 2016 at 1:10 AM, Zem said: No, you must be a permanent resident of Canada for four years and then plan to live there in the future to qualify for citizenship through a spouse. FIFA also doesn't recognize marriage as a direct way of becoming eligible for another country, you can only do it by becoming a citizen of that country through your spouse. Although he lived here a good while I don't think he ever applied even if he was eligible at one point, and he lives permanently in the U.S. now if I'm not mistaken. But if you have a grand parent or parent from said country, it's ok. Such superfluous, artificial bull shit eligibility rules FIFA has. Edited March 18, 2017 by Macksam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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