deschamp86 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 (edited) Now that we have three Canadian MLS teams, there will be much more young, up and coming talent coming from out of Canada. Another bonus is that we will now have the opportunity to nationalize some other players that don't fit into the plans of other national teams. A few of these guys could have the opportunity to represent Canada in a few years, so long as they stay with a Canadian team long enough (and stay out of the picture with their current national team). I've added some guys that have caps as well, but aren't currently cap tied. I know some people here don't like the idea of poaching players from other countries, but the majority of these guys would never get a sniff with their national teams anyways. Also, I am not advocating that any of these guys are good enough to start for Canada, but even depth is good to have. Players only tracked to a maximum age of 30 2013 or earlier (Eligible) Age @ Eligibility Team Notes Evan Bush 31 Montreal Impact Erik Hurtado 27 Vancouver Whitecaps 2014 (1 Year) Age @ Eligibility Team Notes Nick Hagglund 27 Toronto FC Victor Cabrera 26 Montreal Impact Daniel Lovitz 28 Montreal Impact Nicolás Mezquida 27 Vancouver Whitecaps Has played for Uruguay at U15 & U17 2015 (2 Years) Age @ Eligibility Team Notes Cristian Techera 28 Vancouver Whitecaps Edited June 5, 2018 by deschamp86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Lost me with regards to O'brian White. If he's been capped by Jamaica then he is not available. Unless you mean its below senior level? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redcoatsforever Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 YAY! Let's do to everyone else's talent pool that thing that we constantly complain about when it's done to our own!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Pretty sure you have to have been eligible for the country you are switching to at the time that you receive a cap for your initial country. ie. if you played a youth or senior game for your first country, you had to have been eligible to play for Canada at the time you did so. That would trim the list significantly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Is 5 years with respect to new FIFA regulations, or Canadian citizenship requirments? It looks to be 1095 days for the latter: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/publications/howto.asp Camilo for example, came here early in 2011. Conceivably, he could have a passport by WC2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 If you have a senior cap are you not cap tied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villus Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 If we were to target future players to naturalize I would go after young Colombians, they produce a lot of good talent and as said in other threads many are willing to come to MLS and the Colombian MNT won't touch players playing in MLS so its a win win for the player since they won't be in Colombia's plans anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alberta white Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 ^Is that a dictate from President Hugo "USA gave me cancer" Chavez? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keegan Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Players who have played for another nation at youth level (or senior level) can't play for Canada unless they had citizenship before hand. This eliminates Koffie and Plata... the only two worth talking about IMO. Camilo could be interesting but by 2016 I'd hope we have some equal or better talent to keep him out of the squad, he's a good player don't get me wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 Boy would it be great to be able to get Koffie though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanadianSoccerFan Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 OMG!!! Only 3 years until Ty Harden is elgible!!!!!:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McGuire Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 If you have a senior cap are you not cap tied? White only played in a friendly, so no he's not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 If you have a senior cap are you not cap tied? Only if it's in an official competition such as World Cup (qualifying or finals) or a continental championship (qualifying or finals). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A_Gagne Posted March 15, 2012 Share Posted March 15, 2012 YAY! Let's do to everyone else's talent pool that thing that we constantly complain about when it's done to our own!! IMO there's a big difference between naturalizing a guy that never got a shot with birth nation and a player turning his back his home country, who actually wanted him in their side, and playing for another country for careerist reasons (e.g. spurning Canada for another country in favour for a more prestigious, and thus more career advancing/remunerative, footballing nation. Apples and Oranges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted March 15, 2012 Author Share Posted March 15, 2012 I will make some changes to the list but I just want some clarification on the eligibility rules, I know its not exactly black and white. Are the guys that have youth caps (and friendly senior caps) completely ineligible? Or only the guys that have youth caps in official FIFA competitions such as U17/U20 World Cup or Qualifying Rounds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocaWarrior23 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I will make some changes to the list but I just want some clarification on the eligibility rules, I know its not exactly black and white. Are the guys that have youth caps (and friendly senior caps) completely ineligible? Or only the guys that have youth caps in official FIFA competitions such as U17/U20 World Cup or Qualifying Rounds? I think its only official competitions because this guy played in friendlies for Ghana U18s and now plays for Qatar. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Quaye Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe MacCarthy Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 This is garbage. Sends a bad message to youth players, doesn't help development of new players, is a short term "solution" and supports ridiculous FIFA eligibility rules that no other sane sport would follow. You wanna play you gotta be a citizen. Even JDG2 did at least that much for Holland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bertuzzi44 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Anything over a year should not even be considered. 2 years? 3 years? 4 years away? So much can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Anything over a year should not even be considered. 2 years? 3 years? 4 years away? So much can happen. Totally agree, the only person on that list i would keep an eye on is Frei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThiKu Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Frei defo. For me if Camilo is eligible sooner than later than he should be brought in. If Koffie is ever eligible he must be included. Excellent player. I suspect he'd be depth for CMNT along with guys like JdC and Stinson....maybe Cordon....he'll get bypassed by Alderson I'm sure but...still a great pick-up. @Joe - nonsense. Regardless whether you agree with it or not, or whether I agree with it or not. Every country is doing it (except England it seems) so Canada must also. Look at our nearest neighbours.......USA. If we can, we should/must. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrenaline11 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Players who have played for another nation at youth level (or senior level) can't play for Canada unless they had citizenship before hand. Then there goes Frei. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpg75 Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Then there goes Frei. I thought he only played youth friendlies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deschamp86 Posted March 16, 2012 Author Share Posted March 16, 2012 Frei defo. For me if Camilo is eligible sooner than later than he should be brought in. If Koffie is ever eligible he must be included. Excellent player. I suspect he'd be depth for CMNT along with guys like JdC and Stinson....maybe Cordon....he'll get bypassed by Alderson I'm sure but...still a great pick-up. @Joe - nonsense. Regardless whether you agree with it or not, or whether I agree with it or not. Every country is doing it (except England it seems) so Canada must also. Look at our nearest neighbours.......USA. If we can, we should/must. I agree. I kinda figured everyone would get all sensitive about this topic, but the fact of the matter is I would have much preferred keep the players that Canada had lost over these guys. These are all mostly players that will never get a sniff with their own national teams. And with the turnover of MLS rosters, I can't imagine that many of these guys (if any) will ever qualify for Canada. Either way I'm glad it got some discussion going because that's the whole point of these forums and its good to see everyone's opinions on the matter. I am going to update the list a bit though, cut off the guys that have been part of their national team set-up within the past 5 years we'll say. The one's that haven't been involved in a while are the ones that are more likely to someday be part of our system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xcalibre Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 Anything over a year should not even be considered. 2 years? 3 years? 4 years away? So much can happen. When this list inevitably gets bigger and more difficult to manage, I agree. For now, though, we might as well entertain ourselves with the complete list. I know its a bit of a stretch, but Paul Munster (in the Oberliga Nord now) would only have 4 years of residency left after he cleaned up the CSL awards back in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villus Posted March 16, 2012 Share Posted March 16, 2012 I agree. I kinda figured everyone would get all sensitive about this topic, but the fact of the matter is I would have much preferred keep the players that Canada had lost over these guys. These are all mostly players that will never get a sniff with their own national teams. And with the turnover of MLS rosters, I can't imagine that many of these guys (if any) will ever qualify for Canada. Either way I'm glad it got some discussion going because that's the whole point of these forums and its good to see everyone's opinions on the matter. I am going to update the list a bit though, cut off the guys that have been part of their national team set-up within the past 5 years we'll say. The one's that haven't been involved in a while are the ones that are more likely to someday be part of our system. With 3 teams in MLS now we can potentially have player movement and the players will remain eligible by staying within Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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