kacbru Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 I know the horse has long bolted from the stable, but it still annoys me that we just accept the fact that decisions about representing a country in football is the same as deciding which team to sign with on transfer deadline day. What option is best at advancing a career, how to strategically use a one-time (or eventually two, three, four, five-time??) switch to move to a bigger and better club, etc. The narrowing of the gap between club and international football is frustrating to me. narduch and Ivan 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdog Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 5 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: If North Macedonia can get a win (at home) against Iceland it's all over for Romania. The odds are VERY much not in Romania's favour now. I didn't realize Macedonia is a win away from the world cup, my dream of Pandev (who should unretire) vs Atiba may come true 🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦 narduch and Buchta 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 5 minutes ago, Bdog said: I didn't realize Macedonia is a win away from the world cup, my dream of Pandev (who should unretire) vs Atiba may come true 🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦 2nd is just a playoff spot Bdog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buchta Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Bdog said: I didn't realize Macedonia is a win away from the world cup, my dream of Pandev (who should unretire) vs Atiba may come true 🇲🇰🇲🇰🇲🇰🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦 They need to win the last match against Iceland. Making the playoffs would be a great result for Macedonia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 13 hours ago, An Observer said: Seems kinda stupid on his point to allow himself to be cap tied to Romania against Liechtenstein at this stage but if that is what his Dad wants, i guess that is what they will get. I just dont understand the need to rush this from the family's side. He is 15 and has many years ahead of him to make this decision. Why cap tie yourself to one team when he has 3 options, all of which have their strengths and weaknesses. Anyway, it is what it is. If the dream is to play for Romania, it's not stupid at all. I was never good enough to play for any national team, and only ever eligible for Canada, but my dream was to play for Canada and if I was given that opportunity before I was actually good enough to play for Canada, I would have absolutely taken it. For all we know this Enes guy might not ever have another chance at a senior cap. He might be like that Juventus youth goalkeeper that played a game for us one time that was supposed to be the future. I can't even come up with his name close enough to find him on google at the moment. Filip 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Filip Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 (edited) 13 hours ago, An Observer said: Seems kinda stupid on his point to allow himself to be cap tied to Romania against Liechtenstein at this stage but if that is what his Dad wants, i guess that is what they will get. I just dont understand the need to rush this from the family's side. He is 15 and has many years ahead of him to make this decision. Why cap tie yourself to one team when he has 3 options, all of which have their strengths and weaknesses. Anyway, it is what it is. He would still need another 3 appearances, I think, with the new rule. So still far from cap tied since the next international break for Europe is in March, I’m pretty sure and honestly, maybe it’s just how he grew up or the Hagi effect, but he seems pretty happy about it from his words and facial expressions Edited November 12, 2021 by Filip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigMo Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 On 11/9/2021 at 8:42 PM, Corazon said: The strangest part of this is that both parents are Turkish blood and only Romanian through living there. I lived in the US for several years and if I ever moved to a 3rd country where I raised kids, I could tell you that USA would be the last country I would ever want my children to play for. It would be one of either, my adopted homeland or my home country Canada (In my case, its always going to be Canada first). This clearly stinks of Romania & Hagi pulling the strings. It just doesn't make sense aside from Hagi and Romania starting his club career. Now that I think about it though. This literally just happened with Ike Ugbo. However, Ike knew he was never going to breakthrough at England and caps would be very difficult to come by with Nigeria as an attacker. There’s a small minority of ethnic Turks in Romania, quite sure his parents are from that community. So not immigrants or foreigners. Corazon and Filip 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontownman Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 13 minutes ago, Filip said: He would still need another 3 appearances, I think, with the new rule. So still far from cap tied since the next international break for Europe is in March, I’m pretty sure and honestly, maybe it’s just how he grew up or the Hagi effect, but he seems pretty happy about it from his words and facial expressions If he gets capped we will have to wait a period of time before he is eligible, like tomori (late 2022 before his last cap, now 2024?). It would likely put other nations off calling him as they couldn't play him for 3 years and putting stock in someone that could just accept another Romania cap in the meantime would be a gamble too far. If he gets capped he is likely gone. The only reason he might be available again down the line would likely mean he hasn't fulfilled potential. Could definitely see him being there for experience though with a promise of not capping unless he wanted. They could have just had a taxi squad though if they had no intention of capping. @An Observer I agree on his options and age. That said if he commits to Romania and is proud to do so, I can't fault that. Its what lots of people argue about here. Keeping options open is a modern game tactic to leverage the best financial and career potential possible. Footballers that proudly nail their international colours to the mast are rare. If he felt Canadian and did the same we would be celebrating. Good luck to the lad either way. Filip and Sal333 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corazon Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 42 minutes ago, BigMo said: There’s a small minority of ethnic Turks in Romania, quite sure his parents are from that community. So not immigrants or foreigners. Thanks. That would make more sense. I read that the parents had met in Romania and I mistook it that they both met while temporarily living in Turkey. BigMo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maplebanana Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Kent said: If the dream is to play for Romania, it's not stupid at all. I was never good enough to play for any national team, and only ever eligible for Canada, but my dream was to play for Canada and if I was given that opportunity before I was actually good enough to play for Canada, I would have absolutely taken it. For all we know this Enes guy might not ever have another chance at a senior cap. He might be like that Juventus youth goalkeeper that played a game for us one time that was supposed to be the future. I can't even come up with his name close enough to find him on google at the moment. I think you're trying to come up with Alessandro Busti. Kent 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 Unless he goes by another name or I am blind I don't see him listed in the 11 or even on the bench versus Iceland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frattinator Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 19 minutes ago, Obinna said: Unless he goes by another name or I am blind I don't see him listed in the 11 or even on the bench versus Iceland AFAIK he wasn't name to the matchday 23 list (I think Romania called up more than 23 players for this window). Approve My Account Pls and Obinna 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 It's probably a lost cause at this point, but if he doesn't get a cap and Romania fail to qualify and we succeed, you never know...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 He wasn't on the team sheet v Iceland. That was a must win game. They have Liechtenstein up next. That would be the perfect match to cynically cap tie him. The Real Marc and sebdeserio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 2 hours ago, maplebanana said: I think you're trying to come up with Alessandro Busti. Yes, that's it. I wanted to call him Bustio, but that was just giving me Busio and Bustos results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 3 hours ago, narduch said: He wasn't on the team sheet v Iceland. That was a must win game. They have Liechtenstein up next. That would be the perfect match to cynically cap tie him. As in giving him a cap? He won’t be locked in to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miche Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 11 minutes ago, Shway said: As in giving him a cap? He won’t be locked in to them. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youllneverwalkalone Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 I hope Herdman tells him the matches this window are on Sportsnet. He might want to tune in tonight. Come up with a knock in training tomorrow. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 12, 2021 Share Posted November 12, 2021 1 hour ago, Shway said: As in giving him a cap? He won’t be locked in to them. He won’t be locked insofar as it isn’t permanently and irreversibly binding. But he is tied to them insofar as he can’t play for anyone else (us) for the three years after that. Approve My Account Pls and narduch 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 As expected, Sali is on the bench! https://www.uefa.com/european-qualifiers/match/2030989--liechtenstein-vs-romania/lineups/?iv=true narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyslexic nam Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Bah. Not surprising in the least. Nor will it be when he is given minutes at the end of the game. Fuck em. Get ready to lock the thread and give this poorly-advised kid no more of our mental energy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 All I have to say is let's go North Macedonia! Olympique_de_Marseille 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler55 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 The funny thing is that there are rumors linking him to Galatasaray, this definitely feels a situation where Romania is desperately trying to keep control for the foreseeable future at least. The Turkish federation is supposedly after Sali as well, this story may not be over... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Razcle Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I just don’t have the heart to troll him with this. narduch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 (edited) Sali ( # 16 ) is listed as on the bench in the official UEFA lineup not listed in the version on Google. Strange. Iceland had tied it up but now North Macedonia is back in the lead. EDIT: Romania has only managed a single goal against tiny Liechtenstein and have used up four out of five subs so far. 🤞 Edited November 14, 2021 by Olympique_de_Marseille Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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