General Discussion on CMNT

[nolando]

What's  the squad size expected to be for Copa? 30? I'm curious as to what that roster looks like if everyone is healthy for us? There's probably 20 consensus picks but the last 6-10 will be full of debate, I'm sure.

[DrunkOffPunch]

29 minutes ago, nolando said:

What's  the squad size expected to be for Copa? 30? I'm curious as to what that roster looks like if everyone is healthy for us? There's probably 20 consensus picks but the last 6-10 will be full of debate, I'm sure.

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[nolando]

21 minutes ago, DrunkOffPunch said:

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Cheers. That will be very interesting.

[Bigandy]

3 hours ago, nolando said:

What's  the squad size expected to be for Copa? 30? I'm curious as to what that roster looks like if everyone is healthy for us? There's probably 20 consensus picks but the last 6-10 will be full of debate, I'm sure.

This is tough...

Locks if healthy:
1. AJ
2. Laryea (if fit) otherwise I see us taking both LDF and bombito while utilizing johnston in a 4 and buchanan in a 5 at rwb. I dont see us taking a different RB unless sigur or farsi change their tune. 
3. Davies
4. adekugbe
5. miller
6. Kone
7. Staq
8. Buchanan
9. Millar
10. Larin
11. David
12-14. 3 GK Crepeau, st clair, sirios, borjan?

Likely picks
15. cornelius
16. LDF
17. Ugbo
18. Piette
19. Oso


Positionally we have a need at:
20. CM: ali and choiniere likely to fight this out. Oso could also miss out but as the only over 30 guy, I think he makes it. 
21.CB: Waterman and bombito currently the front runners
22. ST: JRR ahead of brym and bair atm
23. Winger: Shaf ahead of corbeanu, nelson, JMR and hoilett

HM not above: Fraser, ZMG, Macnaughton, Loturi, Paton, Kaye, saliba
 

Edited March 26 by Bigandy

[Jack1997]

6 minutes ago, Bigandy said:

This is tough...

Locks if healthy:
1. AJ
2. Laryea
3. Davies
4. adekugbe
5. miller
6. Kone
7. Staq
8. Buchanan
9. Millar
10. Larin
11. David
12-14. 3 GK Crepeau, st clair, sirios, borjan?

Likely picks
15. cornelius
16. LDF
17. Ugbo
18. Piette
19. Oso


Positionally we have a need at:
20. CM: ali and choiniere likely to fight this out. Oso could also miss out but as the only over 30 guy, I think he makes it. 
21.CB: Waterman and bombito currently the front runners
22. ST: JRR ahead of brym and bair atm
23. Winger: Shaf ahead of corbeanu, nelson, JMR and hoilett

HM not above: Fraser, ZMG, Macnaughton, Loturi, Paton, Kaye, saliba
 

I don’t think Adekugbe is a lock at this point, it will depend on his play leading up to Copa America. The only things he has going for him is he’s a vet and at a position of need. No chance Borjan makes it, I think that ship has sailed, next GK would probably be Garza or Pantemis. I wouldn’t put any of Ugbo, JRR, Bair or Brym as a likely, it will all come down to form at the time. I think at this point only 1 of Oso or piette makes it for their experience but I could be wrong, I would put Choinere into likely.

 

[Obinna]

3 minutes ago, Jack1997 said:

I don’t think Adekugbe is a lock at this point, it will depend on his play leading up to Copa America. The only things he has going for him is he’s a vet and at a position of need. No chance Borjan makes it, I think that ship has sailed, next GK would probably be Garza or Pantemis. I wouldn’t put any of Ugbo, JRR, Bair or Brym as a likely, it will all come down to form at the time. I think at this point only 1 of Oso or piette makes it for their experience but I could be wrong, I would put Choinere into likely.

 

I was thinking @Bigandy list was near perfect but there are some good points here.

I agree on Adekugbe and Borjan. I would modify your take somewhat and say that 1 of Ugbo/Bair/JRR/Brym is likely. I can see a second guy from that group sneaking in the 20-23 spots, but obviously no way we take all four. 

Similarly, I see 1 of Piette/Oso as likely, not both. Then, I would say 1 of Choniere/Ali is likely. So, two CM spots are likely, 1 vet and 1 younger guy, and I would lean a 2nd young CM in the 20-23 spots. 

Agree with BigAndy that Shaff is leading that winger race. Shame for Nelson and Corbeanu, but great for Jacob. Can't bring everybody. I hope one or both of Nelson/Corbeanu get into those European friendlies, at least.  

[El Diego]

44 minutes ago, Bigandy said:

This is tough...

Locks if healthy:
1. AJ
2. Laryea
3. Davies
4. adekugbe
5. miller
6. Kone
7. Staq
8. Buchanan
9. Millar
10. Larin
11. David
12-14. 3 GK Crepeau, st clair, sirios, borjan?

Likely picks
15. cornelius
16. LDF
17. Ugbo
18. Piette
19. Oso


Positionally we have a need at:
20. CM: ali and choiniere likely to fight this out. Oso could also miss out but as the only over 30 guy, I think he makes it. 
21.CB: Waterman and bombito currently the front runners
22. ST: JRR ahead of brym and bair atm
23. Winger: Shaf ahead of corbeanu, nelson, JMR and hoilett

HM not above: Fraser, ZMG, Macnaughton, Loturi, Paton, Kaye, saliba
 

Laryea is almost certainly out I thought

[Bigandy]

30 minutes ago, Jack1997 said:

I don’t think Adekugbe is a lock at this point, it will depend on his play leading up to Copa America. The only things he has going for him is he’s a vet and at a position of need. No chance Borjan makes it, I think that ship has sailed, next GK would probably be Garza or Pantemis. I wouldn’t put any of Ugbo, JRR, Bair or Brym as a likely, it will all come down to form at the time. I think at this point only 1 of Oso or piette makes it for their experience but I could be wrong, I would put Choinere into likely.

 

Good points.

Adekugbe is a lock by default. Who knows where davies is going to play. We know we will need to take a lb plus davies. Who else is there other than adekugbe? Maybe abzi but very unlikely. Although ali could be a candidate..... good point. 

3rd Gk's at tournaments are typically a youngster or a vet for experience. I think itll be sirios but who knows what the new coach wants. 

Good point about the strikers, I agree. all 4 are fighting for 2 spots. Could even put vilsaint, cav, kerr etc as 2nd tier strikers. 

I think oso and piette are both specialists which we are missing.

-Piette at CDM has no competition really. He gets the nod over fraser. I could see us deciding that we dont need a specialist CDM though. He's between likely and maybe. 

-Oso is our only cam so if hes in somewhat decent form, he could arguably start. His profile makes him a likely pick for me. He'd be a lock if he has good form.

-choiniere is an interesting one. Hes likely if we had a 26 man roster. I want to put him in likely. But I could see, Kone, staq, oso, ali being chosen at CM. Then its a decision of do we take an extra midfielder? Piette or choiniere.... 

[Bigandy]

5 minutes ago, El Diego said:

Laryea is almost certainly out I thought

oh right! good catch

[RS]

I wouldn't put it past Laryea to get himself fit in time. 

A long shot to be sure, but not impossible.

[blueseeka]

6 hours ago, Bigandy said:

Good points.

Adekugbe is a lock by default. Who knows where davies is going to play. We know we will need to take a lb plus davies. Who else is there other than adekugbe? Maybe abzi but very unlikely. Although ali could be a candidate..... good point. 

3rd Gk's at tournaments are typically a youngster or a vet for experience. I think itll be sirios but who knows what the new coach wants. 

Good point about the strikers, I agree. all 4 are fighting for 2 spots. Could even put vilsaint, cav, kerr etc as 2nd tier strikers. 

I think oso and piette are both specialists which we are missing.

-Piette at CDM has no competition really. He gets the nod over fraser. I could see us deciding that we dont need a specialist CDM though. He's between likely and maybe. 

-Oso is our only cam so if hes in somewhat decent form, he could arguably start. His profile makes him a likely pick for me. He'd be a lock if he has good form.

-choiniere is an interesting one. Hes likely if we had a 26 man roster. I want to put him in likely. But I could see, Kone, staq, oso, ali being chosen at CM. Then its a decision of do we take an extra midfielder? Piette or choiniere.... 

A lot of great points. I do disagree with Adekugbe though. He wasn't great with Vancouver. Wasn't starting either. Has been injured. He will have to make the team on merit. He needs a bounce back year

I think both Ugbo and JRR are on the team.

Osorio is here for sure. No other CAM

Piette probably makes it unless he magically gets replaced in Sigur.

Choinière unfortunately hasn't really been noticeable in his chances with the CMNT. I think Ahmed might get the nod

[Bigandy]

13 hours ago, blueseeka said:

A lot of great points. I do disagree with Adekugbe though. He wasn't great with Vancouver. Wasn't starting either. Has been injured. He will have to make the team on merit. He needs a bounce back year

I think both Ugbo and JRR are on the team.

Osorio is here for sure. No other CAM

Piette probably makes it unless he magically gets replaced in Sigur.

Choinière unfortunately hasn't really been noticeable in his chances with the CMNT. I think Ahmed might get the nod

I agree with everything you've said and have changed my tune on adekugbe a bit. If we play 3atb then his spot can for sure be up for debate with choiniere, ali, shaf, millar all able to play WB and they all offer more versatility. 

The only reason adekugbe is near lock for me is that we don't know where davies will play and in a back 4, we only have maybe davies and adekugbe as proper tier 1 leftbacks. I dont think the new coach will trust ali at LB for copa and laryea isnt likely to be fit in time for lb coverage. 

 

[BearcatSA]

17 minutes ago, Bigandy said:

The only reason adekugbe is near lock for me is that we don't know where davies will play and in a back 4, we only have maybe davies and adekugbe as proper tier 1 leftbacks. I dont think the new coach will trust ali at LB for copa and laryea isnt likely to be fit in time for lb coverage. 

Adekugbe is a naturally left footed LB, so I think this an important dimension to consider.  The other Caps' Cancon LWBs are loathe to cross left footed (Raposo) or not that consistent with it (Ahmed).

Adekugbe needs to show durability and thus, availability in  getting up to full speed prior to the final squad selection.  I hope that he is not a chronic like Guiterrez or Erik Godoy before him.

[WestHamCanadianinOxford]

6 hours ago, BearcatSA said:

Adekugbe is a naturally left footed LB, so I think this an important dimension to consider.  The other Caps' Cancon LWBs are loathe to cross left footed (Raposo) or not that consistent with it (Ahmed).

Adekugbe needs to show durability and thus, availability in  getting up to full speed prior to the final squad selection.  I hope that he is not a chronic like Guiterrez or Erik Godoy before him.

Something of interest

 

[Joe MacCarthy]

 

[Mihairokov]

An interesting would you rather now that we have a bit of hindsight. I think if I were to answer today, knowing how Shaffelburg has turned out, i'd say Shaffelburg, but if TFC end up having a good 2024 and the Italians lead them to something in the playoffs i'd say probably Insigne. 

Personally I like Mourinho more as a manager but i'd rather Ancelotti. I feel like CMNT doesn't need the circus that usually follows Mourinho around, and I say that with the utmost respect to him.

Edited March 28 by Mihairokov

[BearcatSA]

I would rather have someone from One Soccer getting in touch with Hoillet, Vitoria, or Borjan and asking them to share their thoughts on not being part of this Copa playoff.  Or Cavallini.  Or Kaye (considering that he implied  of having a better relationship.with Biello than Herdman).  For me, that we be much more interesting.

[Joe MacCarthy]

 

[Joe MacCarthy]

 

[Ozzie_the_parrot]

8 hours ago, Mihairokov said:

...Personally I like Mourinho more as a manager but i'd rather Ancelotti...

Guess this discussion has drifted off into the stratosphere. The CSA would need to find a very generous philanthropist for either of those to even be a remote possibility.

Edited March 28 by Ozzie_the_parrot

[Kadenge]

3 hours ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said:

Guess this discussion has drifted off into the stratosphere. The CSA would need to find a very generous philanthropist for either of those to even be a remote possibility.

[johnyb]

12 hours ago, BearcatSA said:

I would rather have someone from One Soccer getting in touch with Hoillet, Vitoria, or Borjan and asking them to share their thoughts on not being part of this Copa playoff.  Or Cavallini.  Or Kaye (considering that he implied  of having a better relationship.with Biello than Herdman).  For me, that we be much more interesting.

We've had enough drama in the last year, thank you.

[CanadaFan123]

12 hours ago, BearcatSA said:

I would rather have someone from One Soccer getting in touch with Hoillet, Vitoria, or Borjan and asking them to share their thoughts on not being part of this Copa playoff.  Or Cavallini.  Or Kaye (considering that he implied  of having a better relationship.with Biello than Herdman).  For me, that we be much more interesting.

I think they should hire investigative journalist Frank Eastfoot to get some unnamed sources/dirt on TSN and Bell media. Let’s get real weird with it. 

[BearcatSA]

52 minutes ago, johnyb said:

We've had enough drama in the last year, thank you.

You're right, we don't need the drama.  I'm sure they'll create some drama situation on their own as we get closer to Copa

[narduch]