Footyeh Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 I'm not sure this NYCFC link has any legs. I've heard from a good source that Vancouver has his discovery rights and have tried to sign him. I've also heard his agent has reached out to a few clubs in the MLS, possible he may not know how discovery rights work and that Vancouver asks a fortune to give them up haha. narduch and johnyb 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Corazon, Obinna and johnyb 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 Who is the LCB at the moment? Tristan Blackman playing on his off-foot? I think Kennedy competes and wins a spot in Vancouver. Close to Calgary too, quick stop home to see family and friends. He strikes me as a guy who wants to stay in Europe though, which I support as a fan of his. I think the MLS talk is more about him exploring his options instead of wanting to leave Germany/Europe. GasPed, canuckgbp, Corazon and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 1 hour ago, sose said: Bundesliga 1 and 2 are on DAZN for the upcoming seasons. The DAZN deal includes all B2 matches?!? Wow. Didn't realize that. https://www.dazn.com/en-CA/news/soccer/bundesliga-international-partners-with-dazn-to-bring-best-of-german-football-to-canada/14m5zedkcc3no1q36fo66cfh4b sose 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted June 27, 2023 Share Posted June 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Obinna said: Kennedy competes and wins a spot in Vancouver. Given how injury-prone he is, does he want to play that regularly on turf? Kadenge, Ruffian, Corazon and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuckgbp Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) WAC in 'good talks' with Canadian international According to the "Krone", a Canadian team player with an Austria-Klagenfurt past is a candidate for the open defender position at Wolfsberger AC. https://www.laola1.at/de/red/fussball/bundesliga/news/wac-in--guten-gespraechen--mit-kanadischem-nationalspieler/ https://www.krone.at/3046544?fbclid=IwAR0RmSnZM9GN3n5FoPL85yfbi_EzahHDnvSOoaGamHr8HbS2Y1jXt3XCtU4#/ Edited June 30, 2023 by canuckgbp Corazon, Kadenge, Obinna and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 7 minutes ago, canuckgbp said: WAC in 'good talks' with Canadian international According to the "Krone", a Canadian team player with an Austria-Klagenfurt past is a candidate for the open defender position at Wolfsberger AC. https://www.laola1.at/de/red/fussball/bundesliga/news/wac-in--guten-gespraechen--mit-kanadischem-nationalspieler/ https://www.krone.at/3046544?fbclid=IwAR0RmSnZM9GN3n5FoPL85yfbi_EzahHDnvSOoaGamHr8HbS2Y1jXt3XCtU4#/ Interesting. Right about the level of club I would approve of in the Austrian Bundesliga. A quick wiki search shows they finished 9th last year, 3rd the year before, and 5th the year before that. Looks like Austria Bundesliga now has that new-look split season playoff you see in Belgium, where the top teams fight for the title and the bottom teams fight for relegation. Well, it looks like they won that relegation round and their prize is a Europa League conference play-off spot. Is this move better for Kennedy than MLS? Debatable, but that Conference League play-off would be a nice little carrot. Ruffian and johnyb 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) Thanks for the update @canuckgbp. On 5/31/2023 at 2:25 PM, Obinna said: I feel that anything outside the Top 5 in Austria is not aiming high enough This is the kind of move that I think is solid but @Obinna may not. They were 9th out of 12 in the Austrian Bundesliga for the regular season but during the relegation round they finished at the top. So in the end they were 7th out of 12. A team that could push for the top 6 and where he would have a much better chance of being a starter. Edit: Now @Obinna may approve of anything outside the Top 5 haha Edited June 30, 2023 by Olympique_de_Marseille Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 minute ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Thanks for the update @canuckgbp. This is the kind of move that I think is solid but @Obinna may not. They were 9th out of 12 in the Austrian Bundesliga for the regular season but during the relegation round they finished at the top. So in the end they were 7th out of 12. A team that could push for the top 6 and where he would have a much better chance of being a starter. Ah yes our little debate from earlier IIRC my position was that it would have to be a top team in Austria for me to approve. I think I mentioned teams like Rapid Vienna and LASK, but I don't think I mentioned Wolfsberger specifically. Just from what I see here though I would be satisfied with it. They may not be a top team like I would have hoped for, but they really do seem to have top 6 team potential at least, so close enough. They did finish 3rd and 5th in recent years, so that's a good track record actually. Most importantly it look he'd be a starter at that level, or close to it. I just don't want him at a club that gets dragged down into relegation time and again. WAC getting pulled into the relegation round seems more of a one-off, and they got a Conference qualifier out of it, so not too shabby... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Feel like even MLS would be better than Austria? Shway, footballfreak and Obinna 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 33 minutes ago, InglewoodJack said: Feel like even MLS would be better than Austria? Austria probably gives him a better chance to move to a bigger european league in the future. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shway Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 50 minutes ago, king1010 said: Austria probably gives him a better chance to move to a bigger european league in the future. At 26…that time is now no? If he moves to Austria, does he stop getting called up due to the league being inferior to where the rest of our CBs play? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamboAl Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, InglewoodJack said: Feel like even MLS would be better than Austria? Possibly. But he’s probably more comfortable playing in Germany/Austria (or similar) and that’s what matters most. Obinna 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzie_the_parrot Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, InglewoodJack said: Feel like even MLS would be better than Austria? Depends on the club would be my immediate thought. On checking the club it's not Red Bull Salzburg or one of the traditional powerhouses like Rapid or Austria Vienna but you could say much the same about Ross County, St Johnstone, FC Eindhoven, Chaves, Deinze or Korona Kielce on how the clubs of players called up for this Gold Cup stack up vis-a-vis MLS. tarnado1555362291 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InglewoodJack Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 13 minutes ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Depends on the club would be my immediate thought. On checking the club it's not Red Bull Salzburg or one of the traditional powerhouses like Rapid or Austria Vienna but you could say much the same about Ross County, St Johnstone, FC Eindhoven, Chaves, Deinze or Korona Kielce on how the clubs of players called up for this Gold Cup stack up vis-a-vis MLS. You absolutely could, but I’m a lot more excited about moves to those clubs if the player is still ~U23. Kennedy can still grow and move up to a better team down the line, but he’s close to his peak, and if that peak is bottom of the table Austrian Bundesliga, I’m not super moved IMO. footballfreak and PiedPilko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonovision Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Is MLS a better league than Austria? Probably yes. Is the quality of CBs in Austria at a lower level than in MLS? I have no idea but I wouldn't be surprised if not. MLS, with its DPs and salary structure, does not incentivize teams to spend on CBs and generally this is the weakest part of most teams. Playing that position in Austria might require Scott to more consistently reach a higher standard. Who knows? johnyb, costarg and dyslexic nam 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obinna Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Ozzie_the_parrot said: Depends on the club would be my immediate thought. On checking the club it's not Red Bull Salzburg or one of the traditional powerhouses like Rapid or Austria Vienna but you could say much the same about Ross County, St Johnstone, FC Eindhoven, Chaves, Deinze or Korona Kielce on how the clubs of players called up for this Gold Cup stack up vis-a-vis MLS. This is where I was at in my debate with @Olympique_de_Marseille. Ultimately though I think WAC are strong enough club that I expect no impact on his NT calls. Now if he were to go to a team of a lower standard, I may have questions. Even still (and to your point) it's about the performances as well. At all of those teams you mentioned, like Chaves and Korona Kielce, we had players doing very, very well and that matters. Olympique_de_Marseille 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king1010 Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Shway said: At 26…that time is now no? If he moves to Austria, does he stop getting called up due to the league being inferior to where the rest of our CBs play? Given our CB depth, I doubt he stops getting called up. At 26 there is still time to grow for a CB. Vittoria has done ok in his mid 30s. Not out of the ordinary for a CB to make a move up even at age 30. Edited June 30, 2023 by king1010 johnyb, costarg and Shway 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olympique_de_Marseille Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 Members here are 💩ting a little on the quality of the Austrian Bundesliga. I thought that it would be fairly equivalent if not superior to the German 2. Bundesliga. 🇦🇹 Bundesliga ≥ 🇩🇪 2. Bundesliga True? Ansem 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiedPilko Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 1 hour ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Members here are 💩ting a little on the quality of the Austrian Bundesliga. I thought that it would be fairly equivalent if not superior to the German 2. Bundesliga. 🇦🇹 Bundesliga ≥ 🇩🇪 2. Bundesliga True? No... I'd say Salzburg is >, then maybe the next 2 teams are equal, and then below that is closer to 3. liga. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
footballfreak Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 5 hours ago, Shway said: At 26…that time is now no? If he moves to Austria, does he stop getting called up due to the league being inferior to where the rest of our CBs play? I don’t think he stops being called, but it certainly puts to bed any notion of winning the LCB starting spot in the near term. 4 hours ago, jonovision said: Is MLS a better league than Austria? Probably yes. Is the quality of CBs in Austria at a lower level than in MLS? I have no idea but I wouldn't be surprised if not. MLS, with its DPs and salary structure, does not incentivize teams to spend on CBs and generally this is the weakest part of most teams. Playing that position in Austria might require Scott to more consistently reach a higher standard. Who knows? I think the more pertinent question is whether Kennedy would be more battle tested by attackers in MLS or Austria. I would say MLS comfortably has the better attackers outside of RB Salzberg and maybe one or two other clubs. Shway and costarg 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footyeh Posted June 30, 2023 Share Posted June 30, 2023 He can move to Hungary and he'll still be called to the National Team. We literally have no CB depth. I don't think we're in a position to be talking about which league rules our player in/out of the squad, we should be lucky we have an Austrian Bundesliga team interested. costarg, dyslexic nam and gator 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Olympique_de_Marseille said: Members here are 💩ting a little on the quality of the Austrian Bundesliga. I thought that it would be fairly equivalent if not superior to the German 2. Bundesliga. 🇦🇹 Bundesliga ≥ 🇩🇪 2. Bundesliga True? You're absolutely correct. Some of our friends are underestimating Austria while overestimating MLS. It's amusing how some are nitpicking the club he's joining but just assume that any club in MLS would be superior... as if bottom club in that league would be that much better. Being a "parity league" doesn't make it superior overall. Kennedy would be a starter on most MLS squad while he'll have to fight and keep fighting to keep his spot in Austria where every game counts. Good move for him I say and yes, he'll keep being called up and doing well in Austria makes it more likely that he can move up to a better league Edited July 1, 2023 by Ansem Removed the Europe competition part Kadenge, Corazon, costarg and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narduch Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 Wolfsbrerger missed out on Europe this year. They were in Europa Conference last season but only managed to last 2 qualifying rounds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ansem Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 53 minutes ago, narduch said: Wolfsbrerger missed out on Europe this year. They were in Europa Conference last season but only managed to last 2 qualifying rounds My bad, I misread their table Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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